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May 17, 2014
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swingcat
people keep saying this, but it sure seemed pretty dumb at the time.
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bluebrotha
5/17/14 10:21pm
Makes sense. thanks for the info
Hector
5/17/14 10:24pm
Thanks
Idahofallsblue
5/17/14 10:29pm
BYU should have freaking joined when they had the chance. If it doesnt happen,
CougarWarrior
5/17/14 10:30pm
Hindsight is always 20/20...
Florwood
5/17/14 10:35pm
people keep saying this, but it sure seemed pretty dumb at the time.
swingcat
5/17/14 10:44pm
We shouldnt be in a position for hindsight about inclusion.
CougarWarrior
5/17/14 10:46pm
It was obvious at the time
AxelDC
5/18/14 11:18am
What, you'll hunt them down?
thirdgencoug
5/17/14 10:41pm
Yes, thats what i'm going to do.... A lot of fans are going to be pissed if we
CougarWarrior
5/17/14 10:44pm
If the info was right there was never a full invitation, and at the time the
thecthdox
5/18/14 5:49am
RE: BYU should have freaking joined when they had the chance. If it doesnt
steve3125
5/18/14 6:50pm
Those of us who donate or belong to Cougarclub have the right to be concerned
chirocoug
5/18/14 8:08pm
As an opinion only, do you see anything changing in light of SEC/ACC's recent
jkccoug
5/17/14 10:32pm
Either way football is not in a good spot right now. And that might not change
TNT
5/17/14 10:35pm
First I've heard that football-only w/ B12 was on the table back then. I think
NewMexiCoug
5/17/14 10:35pm
How so? BYU would be for football only due to Sunday play. No other school
LifeLongLakerFan
5/17/14 10:48pm
Good point. Three problems, though. First, this is the first time of which I am
NewMexiCoug
5/18/14 8:09pm
The price of rumors
provofan
5/18/14 9:07pm
And what if it collapsed?
AxelDC
5/18/14 11:20am
I am saying I doubt the reality of a football-only option 3 years ago. And why
NewMexiCoug
5/18/14 8:13pm
TCU/WVU don't have Sunday play problems. FB only makes sense for BYU
SaintGeorgeYFan
5/18/14 12:11pm
Which is why TCU/WVU would be more attractive options, unfortunately.
NewMexiCoug
5/18/14 8:14pm
too bad. Seems like some critical mistakes were made by BYU admin.
Blueto
5/17/14 10:35pm
Thanks
UneducatedFan
5/17/14 10:38pm
Good post
WhiteMud
5/17/14 10:46pm
I didn't mind Indy, BUT was very uneasy that things could change in future
byu1
5/17/14 10:48pm
exactly.
swingcat
5/17/14 10:58pm
Stewart Mandel emphasized how much BYU loved independence
messi
5/17/14 11:28pm
Look at MWC and MTN. History of really bad business decisions.
Y'zFan
5/18/14 12:02am
Whose idea was it to 'wait and see'? TH, BOT, Woosh Cecil, all of the above?
Cosmo Kramer
5/17/14 11:02pm
Pretty sure few know for certain although most conjecture is that.....
TNT
5/17/14 11:04pm
#whyihatetntwiththeintensityof 1000burninghotsuns
Cosmo Kramer
5/17/14 11:15pm
The current president was the one who made the decision...
kotacoug
5/17/14 11:12pm
I doubt he was given the authority to make that kind of executive decision.
Cosmo Kramer
5/17/14 11:16pm
Who donyou think the BOT relied upon to make their
kotacoug
5/18/14 5:20am
What difference does it make? It is a fact that the B12 was very unstable during
Rocketman
5/17/14 11:27pm
Ok, then give us your worst case scenario of BYU's place
messi
5/17/14 11:29pm
Yeah. I'd like to hear this as well.
swingcat
5/17/14 11:50pm
Worst case scenario, which was a real possibility and not some far-fetched bad
Rocketman
5/18/14 12:10am
Wrong. Why would Texas and Oklahoma be able to leave and BYU not?
sportsfanwife04
5/18/14 12:14am
God forbid BYU end up without a conference. They would have to go independent.
swingcat
5/18/14 1:55am
I thought similar but
SpudCoug
5/18/14 8:26am
Didn't the OP say that the B12 talks were on Football only membership?
mr_thekid
5/18/14 10:04am
<< Deleted >>
messi
5/17/14 11:31pm
bigger gamble than independence? i think not.
SaintGeorgeYFan
5/18/14 12:14pm
Best insider. Rings true to me too.
lawboy
5/17/14 11:18pm
I think they saw risk, but that they also had a bit of an over elevated opinion
SaltLakeCoug
5/17/14 11:33pm
So basically we can blame Mr. Go Getter Larry Scott
cougarbart
5/17/14 11:31pm
This post made no mention of a train relative to a station.
getemcougs24
5/17/14 11:31pm
I don't buy the "Big 12 was too unstable" argument.
sportsfanwife04
5/17/14 11:50pm
At the risk of souring BYU's relationship with ESPN?
TheDeek
5/17/14 11:55pm
ESPN is too big to hold a grudge...
swingcat
5/18/14 12:03am
Arrogant and self-centered, narcissist businessmen can and do hold personal
Rocketman
5/18/14 12:14am
BYU and the MWC snubbed ESPN for the Mtn Network. ESPN then signed up BYU,
SaintGeorgeYFan
5/18/14 12:21pm
Of course ESPN signed BYU, they got 'em for a bargain price!
TheDeek
5/19/14 12:33am
Do you have some evidence of this supposed Bargain?
PolarisPrime
5/19/14 12:51am
Eh. Still don't buy it. If BYU joins the Big 12, then Texas, Oklahoma,
sportsfanwife04
5/18/14 12:13am
BYU would have had about a 20 million dollar
PolarisPrime
5/18/14 12:56am
You mean go back to Indy, not go Indy.
BYUHgrad
5/18/14 2:49am
From what I have heard there is a clause in the contract
PolarisPrime
5/18/14 11:25am
Why would they be stuck? This is myth. This is used to try to defend BYU.
sportsfanwife04
5/18/14 11:42am
Exactly how I see it.
messi
5/18/14 12:20pm
Ummm.... Read 2 posts back
PolarisPrime
5/18/14 10:05pm
Personally, I think heads should roll if we turned down Big 12 for Indy.
Blue Ghost
5/18/14 2:28am
The exact opposite happened Worthen who was the lead counsel
kotacoug
5/18/14 5:27am
This does not bode well for the future if there are latent grudges
JackStack
5/18/14 4:52pm
You can't fire Apostles
TheDeek
5/18/14 8:05am
No you can't, hoping it was made down from BOT
Blue Ghost
5/18/14 8:10am
You think ESPN would be happy with that?
Y4LYFE
5/18/14 7:37am
Thanks for sharing
Real Men Wear Blue
5/17/14 11:51pm
Thanks for posting on the general board!!!
Bluedomination
5/17/14 11:51pm
Second to last paragraph is puzzling.
Y'zFan
5/17/14 11:58pm
You LOST me at partial membership for FB ONLY because....
LEDSFW
5/18/14 12:04am
Hope this is true.
Walter Bellhaven
5/18/14 12:04am
Sounds like BYU's priority was independence during talks with the Big12
swingcat
5/18/14 12:08am
Finally, a post from someone who is actually somewhat in the know
Italics
5/18/14 12:34am
Thanks for the shout out!
shoganai
5/18/14 9:01am
if it makes you feel better, it wasn't aimed specifically at you
Italics
5/18/14 1:41pm
Why would we do football only? Do we want to stay in the WCC?
chazen
5/18/14 12:53am
Sunday play? Easier access to the tourney? Better travel? Better destinations?
TrueAndBlue
5/18/14 12:55am
Forgot about Sundays for other sports.
chazen
5/18/14 12:53pm
It may not be up to us. If FB-only is what is offered to resolve the Sunday-
LifeLongLakerFan
5/18/14 8:39am
Tidbits translation:
provofan
5/18/14 1:10am
So does that mean
Oldcougfan
5/18/14 8:49am
It means
provofan
5/18/14 9:31am
Put up or shut up
DapperDan
5/18/14 9:39am
I actually really enjoy reading what the insiders have to say.
Idahofallsblue
5/18/14 9:48am
Because it's pathetic to watch everyone get their hopes up
cougarbart
5/18/14 10:01am
You go girl!
WDaddy
5/18/14 10:09am
It's exactly this type of reaction
cougarbart
5/18/14 10:18am
So is this an admission that you know nothing or do you know things that
Y'zFan
5/18/14 10:07am
Care to share which part of the post is incorrect?
mr_thekid
5/18/14 10:08am
Holy yewt! Finally somebody on CB "in the know" shares some tidbits...
AntiSNOT
5/18/14 3:08am
<< Deleted >>
East1999
5/18/14 8:01am
One question:
lawboy
5/18/14 8:47am
I genuinely think bluebrotha has better info than I do, but...
shoganai
5/18/14 9:04am
Same reason why they say they don't have a scholarship
kotacoug
5/18/14 9:09am
And what reason is that?
shoganai
5/18/14 9:11am
save face, sabbath day excuse is above reproach
kotacoug
5/18/14 11:00am
It has been explained
byujay13
5/18/14 9:10am
Football-only an issue when other suitors will come in as full members, and
NewMexiCoug
5/18/14 8:25pm
This ^
provofan
5/18/14 9:20am
Some possibilities maybe.
Y'zFan
5/18/14 10:13am
Coud be possible, unless their bylaws didn't allow for football only, as was
Undefeated
5/18/14 10:18am
He never said that with respect to B12 only did he?
lawboy
5/18/14 11:10am
The math doesn't add up when you consider Bronco is saying Sunday play mattered
JamesDean
5/18/14 11:19am
same reason we are told there is no demand for caffeinated drinks.
swingcat
5/18/14 12:50pm
TH has said in an interview before that sunday play was not an issue.
Bluedomination
5/18/14 1:13pm
Travel costs. Also here is a transcript of TH saying that basically everyone
rainorsnow
5/18/14 5:45pm
Not sure Bronco knows . . . was he involved? Why would he be?
jkccoug
5/18/14 7:42pm
He may have been referring to the Pac12 when talking about Sunday play
byusage
5/18/14 8:35pm
The proof is in the pudding...we are not scheduling 5-7 games against P5 teams
richvan
5/18/14 9:57am
Playoff chances as an Indy are 0.0000000000000000000000000000 01%.
sportsfanwife04
5/18/14 12:38pm
This doesn't square with this:
Undefeated
5/18/14 10:00am
it's called saving face
kotacoug
5/18/14 11:27am
Citation?
AxelDC
5/18/14 11:15am
Thanks for the info...please keep us posted
chirocoug
5/18/14 1:04pm
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