Not all mistakes are equal.

RE: Why I like Bronco Mendenhall as BYU's coach...

yorksama

7/26/15 5:49pm

As I stated, he has made mistakes.

Zach

7/26/15 5:50pm

Plenty call time outs. Few try to ice a kicker on a PAT.

Texas Hammer

7/26/15 5:57pm

Not all mistakes are equal.

flyusaf

7/26/15 6:09pm

Exactly, firing Mendenhall would be a huge huge mistake.

Zach

7/26/15 7:20pm

Yeah we are lucky to have a coach so bold as to ice PATs.

flyusaf

7/26/15 7:30pm

May you also be judged repeatedly for a tiny choice you made in your job...

BarraCouga

7/26/15 7:39pm

Putting hand on lower back makes it much less harsh

maxpowers

7/26/15 8:15pm

Ad homenim attack

reddead

7/26/15 8:48pm

Wasn't the post about Bronco?

Texas Hammer

7/26/15 9:08pm

That's exactly what us military pilots do to each other.

flyusaf

7/26/15 9:28pm

So....

PolarisPrime

7/26/15 10:48pm

Good post.

bald man

7/27/15 6:06am

Lol... Bronco: the most humble coach in America!

flyusaf

7/27/15 7:55am

Again, everythign you said is somethign you made up

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 10:47am

Lol man, this is priceless stuff. Just cute funny.

flyusaf

7/27/15 11:01am

Funny how posters like you make things up about Bronco

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 11:08am

Like making up that we are now 5-4 vs utah?

flyusaf

7/27/15 11:19am

Do you know how to read?

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 2:52pm

LOL!

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 4:33am

That guy you think is Bronco...It's probably you.

BarraCouga

7/27/15 11:42am

RE: Lol... Bronco: the most humble coach in America!

Mabuhay Coug

7/27/15 4:33pm

you know very little of which you speak

Zach

7/26/15 10:59pm

Give me a job that pays 7 figures and you can judge all you want.

Smoke Monster

7/27/15 7:57am

if you're making in the neighborhood of $1-2 million a year or more in salary...

icecougar

7/27/15 11:41am

Are you really comparing recruits having group sex with a girl

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 2:55pm

^^^^^***STRAWMAN ALERT!!!***^^^^^

icecougar

7/27/15 3:14pm

LOL.... Irony alert.

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 3:38pm

LOL alert

icecougar

7/27/15 4:05pm

No, you compared Crowton's sex scandal with Bronco's time out

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 8:35pm

LOL alert... haha that made me LOL!

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 4:38am

Or go for 2 when the score is 7-6?

MarylandFan

7/27/15 8:44am

You mean do something that 1- is actually better odds statistically

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 8:38pm

LOL!

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 4:39am

Hey little fella, you've embarrassed yourself enough this week. Take a break.

messi

7/30/15 9:33am

It's all good. We all get our shots in at each other.

MarylandFan

7/30/15 9:54am

Sounds like you missed this post-

messi

7/30/15 11:18am

I did see that, but didn't really try to parse it apart

MarylandFan

7/30/15 11:55am

Not sure you're getting it. Oh well.

messi

7/30/15 12:08pm

Blank stare.

MarylandFan

7/30/15 5:04pm

Cool, don't come back until you understand things. Just read until you get it.

messi

7/30/15 6:56pm

yes some more than once. Crowton made mistakes too.....

icecougar

7/27/15 11:35am

This is easily the funniest wordless response I have ever seen

MarylandFan

7/27/15 8:43am

I don't hate Bronco, but could give a rip about anything he does off the field.

Shimmy

7/26/15 5:51pm

I remember Crowton all to well. I do give a rip what happens off the field.

Zach

7/26/15 5:53pm

As I stated, it is a minimum job requirement. If a coach checks the box he gets

Shimmy

7/26/15 5:54pm

I agree that a clean program is a mandatory part of the job

Zach

7/26/15 5:56pm

80% of the kids Bronco recruits serve F/T missions, are former Eagle Scouts, etc

icecougar

7/27/15 11:55am

Yes it is, with Bronco at the helm the Honor Code office stays off the football

BlueNtheFace

7/27/15 12:14am

Wait a second. You like Bronco?!

maxpowers

7/26/15 6:13pm

people usually respond to BMs with BMs

El Joffrey

7/26/15 6:15pm

But it's comedic relief when they post gen. Pop instead

BIG XII Coug

7/26/15 6:21pm

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Mall Santa

7/26/15 6:27pm

Wow. Santa is in no joking mood today

TNT

7/26/15 6:28pm

Job security for a mall santa is not what it once was

BIG XII Coug

7/26/15 6:33pm

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Mall Santa

7/26/15 6:33pm

You okay?

Zach

7/26/15 7:19pm

Thank you for not keeping that private. Good post.

blueaussie

7/26/15 7:12pm

zzzzz.....

Kerbouchard

7/26/15 7:38pm

17 PODs, 16 THUMBS UP

BlueNtheFace

7/27/15 12:16am

which is sad. byu fans are truly embracing mediocrity

El Joffrey

7/27/15 8:09am

Like we did from 1985-2000?

Littlerich

7/27/15 8:20am

Like winning the heisman, and going 15-1?

El Joffrey

7/27/15 8:21am

And BYU has had good seasons from 2005-2014

Littlerich

7/27/15 8:42am

I think you mean 2005 to 2009.

El Joffrey

7/27/15 8:43am

You wouldn't include a top 25 finish in 2010 as a good season?

db59840

7/27/15 8:46am

2010 we went 7-6...

icecougar

7/27/15 1:53pm

i don't like the 8-5 seasons, but I am not discounting that Bronco has done a

Littlerich

7/27/15 8:48am

more like 2006-2009

icecougar

7/27/15 1:03pm

That's disingenuous. Like Saying Lavell had superb seasons from 1972-2000...

icecougar

7/27/15 1:16pm

Agreed. Signed the Heisman, 2 Outlands, the 1996 team, Ty Detmer...

icecougar

7/27/15 1:02pm

People are freaking about the 8-5 seasons, from 1985-2000 LaVell had 8 seasons

Littlerich

7/27/15 5:31pm

Since when is a 0.713 winning percentage mediocrity? And why is 0.716 not?

db59840

7/27/15 8:34am

BM had a good first 5 years.

El Joffrey

7/27/15 8:35am

Um...he had an excellent first 5 years. The last 5 years have just been good.

db59840

7/27/15 8:45am

the last 5 have just been so-so

icecougar

7/27/15 3:16pm

Because it's against sub-mediocre opponents

MarylandFan

7/27/15 8:53am

The old WAC was even softer. Our schedules over the last 5 years have

db59840

7/27/15 9:00am

I was weighing in on the oft visited debate about Mendenhall's record

MarylandFan

7/27/15 10:02am

Bronco didn't coach in the old WAC so comparisons to it are irrelevant...

icecougar

7/27/15 3:19pm

It's very relevant. When has BYU ever performed well against the elites of CFB?

db59840

7/27/15 3:24pm

RE: Bronco didn't coach in the old WAC so comparisons to it are irrelevant...

Mabuhay Coug

7/27/15 5:14pm

Totoo 'to.

db59840

7/28/15 8:55am

RE: Totoo 'to.

Mabuhay Coug

7/28/15 9:19am

Winning bowl games against UTEP, Tulsa, SDSU should not be counted!

farsurfer

7/27/15 7:22pm

That right there is the very heart of the topic..there's no hope for improvement

sundance

7/27/15 9:32am

I think differing expectations is the problem though. Fans who love Bronco

Ash

7/27/15 11:11am

Or realize that 8-5 is the norm for the last 40 years and that 10+ win seasons

db59840

7/27/15 2:35pm

I think this rant is really well stated... it does layout a unique perspective.

sundance

7/27/15 4:24pm

Wrong. You won't find too many on here that think byu should be a top 10 program

messi

7/27/15 7:30pm

Well...we already are a Top 25 program, so what more do people want?

db59840

7/28/15 8:57am

Ha, we're a top 25 program? Currently?

messi

7/29/15 10:09am

You mean right now this last season? No. Though we were ranked for half of the

db59840

7/29/15 11:20am

You conveniently cut it off at a decade. How about the last 5 years? The problem

messi

7/29/15 5:24pm

Everything trends down and up. The overall trend over the past 15 years has been

db59840

7/30/15 1:06pm

The last 5 years have been bad. You can call 2011 a success if you want,

messi

7/30/15 11:11pm

Being ranked for 3 weeks out of the total year is half the season?

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 4:49am

BYU isnt remotely close to consistently being in the top 25

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 4:52am

Why? Because it makes sense?

db59840

7/30/15 7:50am

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db59840

7/29/15 11:18am

I didn't say should, I said "can be."

Ash

7/29/15 10:05am

Fine, "can be." You will not find many on here that believe that.

messi

7/29/15 10:10am

In what way, shape, or form has Bronco communicated satisfaction with 8-5?

teancum

7/27/15 11:11am

Seriously? You don't remember this?

swingcat

7/27/15 2:47pm

are you purposely trying to set yourself up? .... or do you really not know

sundance

7/27/15 3:06pm

i asked an honest question, why is that "setting myself up"

teancum

7/27/15 4:25pm

My apologies, I asked because reading between the lines is at times difficult

sundance

7/27/15 5:03pm

Thnx for those comments-there is nothing you've said there that I disagree with

teancum

7/28/15 10:10am

RE: That right there is the very heart of the topic..there's no hope for

Mabuhay Coug

7/27/15 10:51pm

A little nervous to play here, cause I think the answer is quite obvious

sundance

7/28/15 10:26pm

preaching to the choir is easy. Telling the Emperor that his new clothes...

icecougar

7/27/15 12:05pm

It would be very difficult to find someone to do what BM did 2006-09 but easy

byutx

7/26/15 9:24pm

Lavell stayed in touch with his players.

mindzeYe

7/26/15 10:15pm

It appears that you value off the field stuff more than I do.

swingcat

7/26/15 10:48pm

you may be right. I do value off the field things quite a bit.

Zach

7/26/15 11:04pm

and if you don't you are clueless about BYU football and what is going to be

Fdnman

7/27/15 3:59am

RE: and if you don't you are clueless about BYU football and what is going to be

swingcat

7/27/15 8:53am

BYU may be declining from Bronco's 2006-2009 teams, but they are not declining

Littlerich

7/27/15 5:29am

declining is declining.

swingcat

7/27/15 8:54am

Then give Bronco credit for elevating the program prior to the recent decline

Littlerich

7/27/15 9:01am

Yeah. What team do these fans think they're rooting for? We're not Alabama.

db59840

7/27/15 9:05am

I think we can be better than 8-5, but the truth is we are performing as did

Littlerich

7/27/15 9:11am

I'd probably give bronco a little more slack if he had a NC under his belt.

swingcat

7/27/15 9:35am

I can't believe I'm going through this song and dance again, but you can't

swingcat

7/27/15 9:45am

LOL! The Liptons Brisk Iced PAT!!!

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 4:57am

Since you cut out Lavell's best years we'll cut out Bronco's best and compare

icecougar

7/27/15 3:57pm

I left out LaVell's most successful seasons to show the trend post national

Littlerich

7/27/15 5:35pm

Ah yes, the salient point that BYU is not Alabama. Great stuff.

swingcat

7/27/15 9:46am

Appears without fail in every one of these Bronco threads.

messi

7/28/15 8:53am

Feel free to rebut it.

db59840

7/28/15 8:58am

Link me to some posts that indicate we should be on the same level as Alabama.

messi

7/29/15 10:13am

My point is that people are confused about what BYU football is. It's not a Top

db59840

7/29/15 11:21am

he already got that credit. Now he's getting credit for letting the program slip

icecougar

7/27/15 12:10pm

*Past 3 seasons. 2011 was top 25, 10+ wins, and a bowl win.

db59840

7/27/15 2:31pm

Plus he had 54-10 in 2011. Dont forget that.

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 5:01am

Oh, I don't. That hurt. But the season was still a success as we got to 10 wins

db59840

7/30/15 1:09pm

And so it goes, There are a lot of narrow minded responses to your post

bald man

7/27/15 6:07am

Bronco has been a good coach but he's not irreplaceable...

icecougar

7/27/15 11:18am

Or...the next Lavell is 4 bad hires away...you don't gamble away $1 mil to make

db59840

7/27/15 2:37pm

well, lets look at recent history

icecougar

7/27/15 3:03pm

But there really isn't a reason to gamble on a new hire when we have someone

db59840

7/27/15 3:11pm

why wait until the wheels fall all the way off? Do you like that we waited for..

icecougar

7/27/15 4:13pm

1. The point of OP is that Bronco is not going to have embarrassing scandals

db59840

7/27/15 4:44pm

you're not comparing similar sample sizes. Makes a huge difference...

icecougar

7/27/15 5:13pm

Your sample size argument applies just as equally to Bronco's benefit. Give him

db59840

7/27/15 5:20pm

that's funny. Here's some perspective...

icecougar

7/27/15 8:40pm

If "it's not hard" than why has no other coach in BYU history done it?

db59840

7/28/15 8:59am

Do you really think Kryle has been better than Bronco?

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 3:41pm

Isn't it obvious?

icecougar

7/27/15 4:51pm

No...

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 8:33pm

ooooh, another nice strawman

icecougar

7/27/15 8:49pm

Seriously....

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 8:55pm

"Keep the picture puzzles coming juinor....Either that or get off your dad's CB"

icecougar

7/27/15 9:14pm

You made the comparison between Crowton and Bronco.

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 9:37pm

Where?

icecougar

7/27/15 9:56pm

I dont think you remember what you post from one second to the next.

PolarisPrime

7/28/15 12:51pm

" they had a good defense that won them a couple of games. "

icecougar

7/27/15 8:51pm

Geeeee...... Wonder Why???????

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 8:58pm

more mocking? Especially after you accused me of it?

icecougar

7/27/15 9:17pm

Ummmm....

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 9:39pm

"I don't expect you to understand though."

icecougar

7/27/15 9:57pm

No actually. I was being quite serious.

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 9:58pm

so it was a personal attack?

icecougar

7/27/15 10:10pm

No. It was honesty. I didn't think you would understand based on your

PolarisPrime

7/28/15 7:38am

Yeah that guy is a piece of work alright

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 5:13am

Says the yewt "fan" on the BYU message board - LOL

PolarisPrime

7/31/15 12:45pm

Just a question...

PolarisPrime

7/31/15 12:47pm

and yes, Bronco has been dominated by Whitt...

icecougar

7/27/15 9:01pm

LOL...

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 9:11pm

I don't hate Bronco...but I also don't worship him

icecougar

7/27/15 9:28pm

Funny - you seem to throw yourself into the "I Hate Bronco" group quite often.

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 9:54pm

Are we supposed to think that the Crowton comment was completely unrelated to th

icecougar

7/27/15 10:09pm

So... As I said, you go the strawman wrong

PolarisPrime

7/28/15 7:43am

Oh, right! The "BYU is actually 5-4 against Utah" guy!

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 5:16am

"you little whiner." - LOL... Really? That's precious.

PolarisPrime

7/31/15 12:42pm

LOL!!!!!

CrimsonSpear

7/30/15 5:04am

Not sure what you think is wrong

PolarisPrime

7/31/15 12:45pm

Lol.

messi

7/27/15 7:32pm

Messi...

PolarisPrime

7/27/15 8:41pm

Our counterparts have surpassed BYU during Bronco's tenure

checoug

7/29/15 11:54am

Yet another of these threads...

SouthernAZcoug

7/30/15 9:05am

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