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scorpiondynamo
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I’m so proud of those who choose not to get vaccinated. We need more free
thinkers like this in society today.
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Concerned after talking to a friend in the AD.
The Y's Insider
7/28/21 9:19am
Didn't BYU say they will charge the students for the test? I'd have to imagine
P-Boy Squad
7/28/21 9:21am
Yeah the risks of the vaccine are so low, I’m surprised more haven’t gotten it
Run-DMT
7/28/21 9:22am
Yeah. The risks to COVID is so low I am surprised anyone is still pushing it.
jrifkin48
7/28/21 9:42am
Tell that to the 4,197,319 Who have died from COVID-19 so far
kC Cougar
7/28/21 10:32am
How many in the age range of 18-24?
Huge Manatee
7/28/21 10:36am
If you are younger than 24 regular flu Is more deadly
Osteotome
7/28/21 6:17pm
And how many young athletes are these?
jrifkin48
7/28/21 10:38am
And none of those are 18-23 y.o. D1 CFB players
Backcountry
7/28/21 10:38am
Jamain Stephans was D1 lineman, dead from Covid-19
Mabuhay Coug
7/28/21 2:38pm
Guess we can force the 79 yo diabetics
Born2Fish
7/28/21 10:39am
Call and ask Tristan Hoge if he wishes he had access to a vaccine to prevent his
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 10:44am
And hopefully none of them miss games due to blood clots.
ochobeeguy
7/28/21 2:55pm
Yes. Because the risk of that is sooooo high.
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 2:59pm
what of the risk of myocarditis
brick oven
7/29/21 8:55am
RE: what of the risk of myocarditis
StalwartBraveTrue
7/29/21 1:01pm
your argument is I wonder what Tristen would say? well these are grown men...
brick oven
7/29/21 2:59pm
HIV is not a communicable respiratory disease transmitted by breathing in
StalwartBraveTrue
7/29/21 6:39pm
Your baker analogy is stale since CO just ruled the opposite on another case now
stoils
7/30/21 7:15am
It looks like 3 people confused potd for wpotd.
fbguru
7/28/21 11:08am
There has to be more people like me who know the risk of Covid is low/aren’t
ColonelMustard
7/28/21 1:40pm
RE: Yeah. The risks to COVID is so low I am surprised anyone is still pushing
akbarishiwatsu
7/28/21 4:22pm
Risks of COVID, even to the young adult, is orders of magnitude higher than vax
MDub1
7/28/21 4:35pm
I love how we used to think anti-vaxxers
Burton162
7/28/21 10:09pm
who are they going to infect that you are so concerned about?
brick oven
7/29/21 8:58am
Exactly.. people complain about "big pharma" and then go pop their advil and
GhostRider
7/29/21 11:50am
CDC warned about elevated cases of myocarditis in teens that get vaccinated. Is
DoseOfReality
7/28/21 9:48am
Yes, it is very low risk.
Scratch
7/28/21 10:01am
As is Covid…. Extremely low risk for that age group. Almost zero risk for health
kotacoug
7/28/21 10:31am
Yes. Young healthy people have died from complications related to COVID.
FanofBYU
7/28/21 11:00am
You can’t argue that the vaccine is safe and then turn around and note the
kotacoug
7/28/21 11:17am
Actually, the Delta variant is infecting people in their 20s and 30s. The risk
FanofBYU
7/29/21 12:58pm
I heard it isn't hitting anyone hard. It's a weaker strain.
ImuaKahuku
7/28/21 1:48pm
Then how do you explain the increase in hospitalizations and deaths?
FanofBYU
7/29/21 12:58pm
Wait, what's this Delta variant. This is the first I've heard of this.
ochobeeguy
7/28/21 2:56pm
You’re weighing the wrong risks here.
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 2:31pm
The true craziness are the policies regarding Covid. You sound like when the car
kotacoug
7/28/21 8:44pm
I love that when it gets down to it the real issue is politics and not risk.
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 11:46pm
If you are young and only weighing the risk of death from COVID versus
SnickSnack
7/28/21 12:02pm
Care to share your numbers? I’ve never seen this claim backed up with real data.
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 2:32pm
Not my numbers. This comes from Geert Vanden Bossche PHD. He is an
SnickSnack
7/28/21 5:02pm
Thanks. I’ll have to go look him up and see what he says.
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 6:15pm
Solid post, and I appreciate this paragraph
So it goes...
7/28/21 6:23pm
Good post and I think we agree more than we disagree. My point about freedom is
SnickSnack
7/28/21 10:10pm
You are right, we agree on a lot.
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 11:57pm
Outstanding post. Thank you.
FanofBYU
7/29/21 1:04pm
The doctor you are referencing here has a reputation for taking a piece of truth
jamfam
7/28/21 10:18pm
Are you sure you aren’t talking about Snopes and not this doctor? They fit the
SnickSnack
7/28/21 10:35pm
You posted a YouTube video... Then defended him by saying he
jamfam
7/28/21 11:19pm
I think it’s a slippery slope to defend against criticism by saying it’s just
StalwartBraveTrue
7/29/21 12:01am
Which risks are you picking in regards to the vaccine?
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 3:10pm
My point is not about BYU football players. I agree with you, they should get
SnickSnack
7/28/21 5:12pm
Context matters. Elevated from nothing to almost nothing is low risk, yes.
WP17
7/28/21 10:05am
Fatal Heart Inflammation Officially Recognized as Being Caused by Pfizer Vax
TutumTeRoboreReddam
7/28/21 12:17pm
Just look at the brazen serpent - it's easy. Maybe too easy for many
CougarGregor
7/28/21 2:06pm
LOW? By comparison to what?
LEDSFW
7/28/21 1:43pm
It's really too bad how people have politicized something so vital. People love
fierce16
7/28/21 3:35pm
I did have a friend 34 yrs old, no problems, die from the vaccine.
coolblue
7/28/21 5:03pm
RE: I did have a friend 34 yrs old, no problems, die from the vaccine.
ebv
7/28/21 11:21pm
Testing protocols will drive them to want to be tested. Especially when they get quarantined the first time for being
Rhino84
7/28/21 9:23am
I would’ve thought so, but apparently not.
The Y's Insider
7/28/21 10:08am
I'm more concerned that BYU is opening itself up to lawsuits because some dumb
panacablue
7/28/21 9:24am
I don't think he gave out any personal private health info
Brigham
7/28/21 9:25am
What lawsuit would the AD get into when he says half the team is not vaccinated?
BYUheaven
7/28/21 9:26am
54.2% of Utahns are not fully vaccinated. I am glad I am on an anonymous
BYUheaven
7/28/21 9:33am
On what basis? He can tel you specifically which players aren’t vaccinated with
StalwartBraveTrue
7/28/21 10:47am
No personal information was revealed.
ArcticKat
7/28/21 9:29am
RE: I'm more concerned that BYU is opening itself up to lawsuits because some
imdocrob
7/28/21 9:35am
That’s an astute take - has DeekLawyer been advising you on HIPAA?
spinner
7/28/21 9:42am
RE: That’s an astute take - has DeekLawyer been advising you on HIPAA?
imdocrob
7/28/21 9:46am
The AD could give you the specific name of the unvaccinated player
sidsie716
7/28/21 2:14pm
This could lead to canceled games
Hinta
7/28/21 9:28am
And/or players sitting out of games. Both are not good options.
Benfica1
7/28/21 9:53am
I'm not worried
Jericho
7/28/21 9:28am
I know several people who’ve got it twice now
inertiaman
7/28/21 9:44am
Doubt it. Reinfection is extremely rare
Jericho
7/28/21 9:47am
Okay Expert
Kilgruman
7/28/21 9:54am
Actually, I know people who have had it three times. They finally decided to get
FanofBYU
7/28/21 11:03am
I still only know a few people who have gotten it 1 time let alone 3 times.
ochobeeguy
7/28/21 2:59pm
Maybe some players are still setting up their labs to do their own research
Belboz
7/28/21 9:29am
What percentage of the unvaccinated had Covid already b/c natural immunity?
thecthdox
7/28/21 9:33am
Great point!
Fervent Cougar
7/28/21 9:49am
Why do we keep talking about natural immunity? Are we immune from the flu?
FanofBYU
7/28/21 11:07am
“Influenza” includes at least 4 genus of viruses, with each genus comprising of many subtypes. The complexity with
cheezedawg
7/28/21 11:44am
Well flu mutates much quicker than Covid for one, two their are studies that
thecthdox
7/28/21 1:37pm
Rep. Clay Higgins of Louisiana got infected this week for a second time
ryebrye
7/29/21 8:44am
I'm not sure your sentence makes sense but
IgnoreThem
7/29/21 9:43am
They’ve all had Covid whether symptomatic or asymptomatic.
kotacoug
7/28/21 9:34am
Weird.
Social Distance
7/28/21 9:35am
Yeah, COVID19 probably won't kill them so there's nothing to worry about.
Belboz
7/28/21 9:39am
Other than infection and death (both covered in my post) what else is there?
Social Distance
7/28/21 9:41am
I remember when Jimmer Fredette got mono. It didn't kill him. no big deal.
Belboz
7/28/21 9:45am
I guess he should have gotten the covid vaccine.
Social Distance
7/28/21 9:53am
Even if what you say is true, the NCAA could keep them out of games if they are
Brigham
7/28/21 9:45am
But do you have any idea how difficult it is to get vaccinated?
Belboz
7/28/21 9:48am
The vaccine does not prevent exposure.
Social Distance
7/28/21 9:48am
No, it doesn't. But the rules will say exposure doesn't matter if vaccinated
Brigham
7/28/21 9:53am
That sucks.
Social Distance
7/28/21 9:59am
Most of the team got it?
fattycoug
7/28/21 10:42am
RE: Concerned after talking to a friend in the AD.
Sea Chicken
7/28/21 9:36am
I was initially worried this had something to do with conference realignment...
yorksama
7/28/21 9:39am
After seeing what happened last year across the NCAA
Kilgruman
7/28/21 9:40am
How about they just adjust the stupid rules, restrictions, testing and policies
kotacoug
7/28/21 9:44am
Didn't a lot of the players already get it last year (especially prior to the start of the season)?
Indy Coug
7/28/21 9:46am
Weird thing to worry about
Backcountry
7/28/21 9:47am
Yeah, weird to worry about starters missing games.
The Y's Insider
7/28/21 10:06am
Which highly inaccurate covid test are we using this year?
mokelembembe
7/28/21 9:48am
Amen to that! Those things often pick up fragments of viruses & aren't accurate!
Fervent Cougar
7/28/21 9:51am
I got vaccinated because I coach soccer and didn't want anything to make me sit
Benfica1
7/28/21 9:53am
Not true. My son is on the team and most are vaccinated and the admin basically
cornellcoug
7/28/21 10:07am
That sounds more correct. Jaylon Vickers and a few others have been outspoken
cougfan03
7/28/21 10:26am
He said they have exact numbers and it is below 50%. He would know.
The Y's Insider
7/28/21 10:53am
How would your son know who had been vaccinated?
(Private)
7/29/21 8:32pm
What is rumor and what is fact are very important. I'm not buying this rumor.
Stev_ie
7/28/21 10:30am
Its a political and religious affiliation bias
CougarGregor
7/28/21 11:13am
Yes and liberals were against it because Trump was touting the vaccine. Now they
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 11:33am
And the other side was against it because they viewed it as an election day ploy
jrifkin48
7/28/21 11:39am
Now the vaccine is proven, so it can be supported... capiche?
Bolso
7/28/21 12:28pm
Wait what was proven between Kamala being against it and for it?
DiamondMo
7/28/21 12:33pm
The CDC just said that vaccinated people can still get the virus, so why get a
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 11:31am
98-99% of current Covid hospitalizations and deaths are non-vaccinated people
CougarGregor
7/28/21 1:35pm
So when the CDC comes out yesterday and says that vaccinated people are getting
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 1:56pm
It's what we were originally told - 70% effective. Look at the brazen serpent
CougarGregor
7/28/21 2:04pm
Maybe it is a blessing and I'm not anti vaccine. However I don't want to get it
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 2:36pm
1- you’re off by an order of magnitude. 2- no.. serious illness risk is near 0
WP17
7/28/21 3:42pm
You’re looking at the wrong statistics. Hospitalizations/deaths are wayyyy down
WP17
7/28/21 2:11pm
And there is a 99.8% chance I beat covid ifI get it.Follow the statistics right!
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 2:38pm
It’s about 98.6%. But multiply that across a population and get back to me
WP17
7/28/21 3:38pm
That's IF you believe all the numbers being reported as covid deaths. I don't.
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 3:44pm
You’re claiming a 10x lower death rate. That’s tin foil hat stuff
WP17
7/28/21 4:07pm
Did i give you a number? No. And it seems as if you'll digest anything Fauci say
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 5:41pm
Uh… your number is 4 threads up. And I think Fauci is a fool.
WP17
7/28/21 5:43pm
You need to re-read what i wrote. I didn't give you a DEATH number.
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 6:25pm
That’s… the… same thing… 🤦🏻♂️
WP17
7/28/21 6:43pm
Wow a death rate and survival rate over 99%!! Amazing math!
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 11:10pm
*inverse*
WP17
7/29/21 6:09am
Gotta back up SoValley here
stoils
7/29/21 12:19pm
Look at link below, they estimate for undercounted cases.
WP17
7/29/21 1:52pm
RE: That's IF you believe all the numbers being reported as covid deaths. I
jamfam
7/28/21 10:36pm
Yep the medical professionals I've spoken with are idiots with fake degrees.
SoValleyCOUG
7/28/21 11:15pm
IFR is where it’s at. What is the IFR? That is the real number we should be look
kotacoug
7/28/21 4:58pm
98.2% according to Johns Hopkins (accounts for undercounting cases)
WP17
7/28/21 5:04pm
Do you have a link to that?
kotacoug
7/28/21 8:44pm
Yep:
WP17
7/28/21 10:23pm
You can still get covid! This is no different than any other disease and vaccine!
Burton162
7/28/21 10:29pm
LOL! Not in science are ya?
Burton162
7/28/21 10:25pm
The amount of misinformation that has been bought into by people on
kbufcoug
7/28/21 11:36am
Misinformation is the new race card...i disagree w/you so it's misinformation
FMOCIE
7/28/21 11:55am
The amount of cluelessness on this site is astounding.
kbufcoug
7/28/21 11:56am
This may qualify for post of the day!!
Kilgruman
7/28/21 1:02pm
So do you have any evidence these aren’t safe? Or is it just one big coverup?
WP17
7/28/21 4:10pm
Have you read any of Robert Malone's statements--the pioneer of the mRNA vaccine
vaquero
7/28/21 5:44pm
And have you read how both are thoroughly discredited?
WP17
7/28/21 5:46pm
Discredited by a media that censors anyone who dares say something contrary to
vaquero
7/28/21 5:55pm
So the prophet is bending to temporal pressure to endorse a poisonous vax?
WP17
7/28/21 6:45pm
LOL, Robert Malone the pioneer of the mRNA vaccine...
So it goes...
7/28/21 7:32pm
Can’t be! Someone on Reddit told me it was Malone! 😉
WP17
7/28/21 7:40pm
Do I have any evidence? Are you serious?
kbufcoug
7/28/21 6:00pm
You lost me at “isn’t FDA approved” and when you suggest NIH is profiting.
WP17
7/28/21 6:49pm
RE: You lost me at “isn’t FDA approved” and when you suggest
kbufcoug
7/28/21 7:39pm
There’s nuance here,
WP17
7/28/21 7:42pm
RE: There’s nuance here,
kbufcoug
7/28/21 11:51pm
Is this a self reverse? If So- Bravo!
ebv
7/28/21 11:25pm
Good for them. Football isn't more important than potentially injuring yourself
TutumTeRoboreReddam
7/28/21 12:16pm
Glad to hear it. I believe from research the VAX is poison at best.
LEDSFW
7/28/21 12:26pm
I’d like to see the research you did and 99% of doctors didn’t do?
WP17
7/28/21 4:33pm
RE: I’d like to see the research you did and 99% of doctors didn’t
kbufcoug
7/29/21 12:06am
This is getting epic in the amount of under the stairs conspiracists who are
StalwartBraveTrue
7/29/21 12:16am
Ah yes, virologists and researchers don’t know what Kbufcoug knows!
WP17
7/29/21 6:11am
RE: Ah yes, virologists and researchers don’t know what Kbufcoug knows!
kbufcoug
7/29/21 2:05pm
Ahhh. I see now.
WP17
7/29/21 2:10pm
RE: Ahhh. I see now.
kbufcoug
7/29/21 7:44pm
Foolish risk the vaccine is.Cov
towerman
7/28/21 12:27pm
I’m so proud of those who choose not to get vaccinated. We need more free
scorpiondynamo
7/28/21 12:30pm
You can go visit these people in the basement of the hospital.
CougarGregor
7/28/21 1:38pm
So people who choose to get the vaccine are sheep right? Can't think for
GhostRider
7/28/21 4:38pm
I didn’t say all those who got it were sheep.
scorpiondynamo
7/29/21 8:42am
I am glad to hear most athletes are not
BYUvermont
7/28/21 1:01pm
Wrong Category! I turned off the emoji with the mask. Aggravating this is top 10
VTCougar
7/28/21 1:16pm
Hey buddy, our conversation was off the record last night. This is the last time
the_big_blue_funk
7/28/21 2:11pm
useless information unless you know how many of those refusing
dccoug
7/28/21 2:19pm
They played an entire season without vaccines last year. I'm not that worried
YoungOne
7/28/21 2:22pm
One of the Pfizer execs is a stake President on the Northeast
CougarGregor
7/28/21 2:34pm
Mitt Romney was a Stake President as well. Doesn't mean he's my de-facto prophet
jrifkin48
7/28/21 3:30pm
And by that I hope you mean he has been a man of honor and integrity
Chewie
7/28/21 4:24pm
Fine. President Russell M. Nelson - The living Prophet, who also happens to be a
FanofBYU
7/28/21 5:19pm
^^Agreed^^That should be enough.
septicpumper
7/28/21 6:48pm
I think he's actually the area president
ryebrye
7/29/21 8:45am
I’m more concerned there hasn’t been an honor code suspension for over a year
Johnny Vatos
7/28/21 3:40pm
I just saw a YouTube video claiming BYU-HI is making vaccine mandatory for…
icecougar
7/28/21 5:35pm
Yes this is true
HONOMO
7/28/21 7:00pm
So, one football game was canceled, no basketball, and really no
oldrugger
7/28/21 6:28pm
BYU was just fine last year remember? When other teams were cowering.
HONOMO
7/28/21 7:00pm
Some of byu players reportedly got Covid in the summer and had natural immunity
I'mBatman
7/28/21 7:59pm
If true
I'mBatman
7/28/21 7:45pm
"In Utah, hospitals swell with unvaccinated COVID-19 patients"
Section31 Coug
7/29/21 10:26am
Did you read the article?
slatecoug
7/29/21 1:27pm
Of course. Care to point out any problems?
Section31 Coug
7/29/21 11:35pm
🎼 This is the thread that never ends. Yes, it goes on & on my friend. 🎼
Soupie
7/29/21 12:17pm
For those that think COVID is not almost 100% politically driven
ImuaKahuku
7/29/21 5:24pm
That is an excellent video
slatecoug
7/29/21 5:40pm
Sigh…
MDub1
7/29/21 8:19pm
POTD to complete the yahtzee... well done!
Hill4Heisman
7/29/21 6:42pm
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(Private)
7/29/21 8:31pm
This is an extremely long thread.
(Private)
7/30/21 8:20am
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