I love that when it gets down to it the real issue is politics and not risk.

Didn't BYU say they will charge the students for the test? I'd have to imagine

P-Boy Squad

7/28/21 9:21am

Yeah the risks of the vaccine are so low, I’m surprised more haven’t gotten it

Run-DMT

7/28/21 9:22am

Yeah. The risks to COVID is so low I am surprised anyone is still pushing it.

jrifkin48

7/28/21 9:42am

You don't think missing multiple weeks of your football season being in

kimdaddy35

7/28/21 10:10am

I wouldn't ignore long-term risks for short sighted gains.

jrifkin48

7/28/21 10:34am

It is not gene therapy. Please don't spread dumb ideas.

Bolso

7/28/21 10:43am

Can we agree that it isn't a traditional vaccine then?

jrifkin48

7/28/21 10:57am

Did you get the J&J vaccine then?

ldssdl

7/28/21 11:13am

I got the Moderna back in March...it was for work requirements

jrifkin48

7/28/21 11:21am

Follow the science without the politics and you'll understand better

Bolso

7/28/21 11:31am

I have no issue with the shot (its not a traditional vaccine).

jrifkin48

7/28/21 11:55am

Before and after clinical trials were completed

Bolso

7/28/21 12:18pm

Your statement is completely false. Biden’s comments were not a before/after

dawgbite

7/28/21 12:56pm

Pfizer shot was approved December 11.

Bolso

7/28/21 3:15pm

I think we have a great grasp of the risk of major side effects with 100's of millions delivered. Short-term risk reward

Trent

7/29/21 10:38am

Kind of reasonable response. But there isn't about zero risk of an issue

IgnoreThem

7/29/21 10:50am

And a reasonable, logical response back. So people on opposite sides of this can have a respectful conversation. 😉

Trent

7/29/21 11:31am

Traditional vaccines? Well, vaccines are of several types and they are all

84 natlchamps

7/28/21 5:44pm

Have you sprouted your third arm yet?

Delicate Genius

7/28/21 7:42pm

Explain how strongly encouraging scholarship football players is any different than your employer requiring vaccination

antiyewt

7/28/21 7:59pm

Don't need to get yourself and others upset about "gene therapy" when it isn't

Bolso

7/28/21 11:22am

Wrong regarding Pfizer and, I believe, Moderna. They are using a CRISPR RNA

Jasbo

7/28/21 12:37pm

Here is the $1M question. Why is it still allowed? It has a waiver because

ImuaKahuku

7/28/21 2:22pm

Please, enlighten us all with your blood sample research. Using actual sources.

IgnoreThem

7/29/21 7:22am

You can begin with Dr. Peter McCullough and his findings and writings. He gives

ImuaKahuku

7/29/21 8:39am

Oh please. A cable TV talking head. I'm wasting my time.

IgnoreThem

7/29/21 9:37am

Simply dismiss him with no evidence. I server only one Master

ImuaKahuku

7/30/21 6:11am

Please explain what it is then.

ImuaKahuku

7/28/21 1:50pm

It is mRNA getting translated by your cells

Bolso

7/28/21 2:04pm

Fascinating how many act like they know what it is based off of political

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 2:19pm

Good point, which is funny

stoils

7/28/21 3:57pm

I wasn’t aware of that. I don’t give a hoot about GMOs.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 11:31pm

What a strange thing to say

fatcracker

7/28/21 10:44am

It's been around for less than a year. What a strange thing to say.

jrifkin48

7/28/21 10:46am

Random people talking about stuff they don't know anything about is also strange

Bolso

7/28/21 11:11am

Of the Moderna, J&J and Pfizer shots, which one is a traditional vaccine?

jrifkin48

7/28/21 11:24am

J&J is traditional. And I am defending the mRNA ones, did you read?

Bolso

7/28/21 12:05pm

Both y’all madly on Google right now looking up info on these vaccines. Zero cougar boarders changed their view

Honor Code

7/28/21 12:36pm

Wrong! My MD in virology is from DuckDuckGo. I don't trust the Googles

jrifkin48

7/28/21 1:21pm

^^^ New to CB ^^^

DirtyWater

7/28/21 11:32am

So should those that have had COVID still get the vaccine?

Cnation

7/28/21 6:34pm

Yet you speak of long-term effects.

civilcoug

7/28/21 1:20pm

It's been worked on and developed over decades. It's not something brand new.

So it goes...

7/28/21 1:41pm

They’ve been working with the technology for years

I'mBatman

7/28/21 7:48pm

But it’s still a trial…

Cnation

7/28/21 8:24pm

It. Is. Not. A. Trial.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 11:35pm

RE: It. Is. Not. A. Trial.

Cnation

7/29/21 3:18pm

So we agree.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 6:30pm

RE: So we agree.

Cnation

7/29/21 9:17pm

Agree. And I’m glad no one is being forced to get it. Freedom first.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/30/21 8:35am

Why assume there will be long-term effects? That seems so short sighted.

FanofBYU

7/28/21 10:54am

Every 90+ year old should get the shot

stoils

7/28/21 4:02pm

Oh wow, this is such an ignorant take. This is not gene

kimdaddy35

7/28/21 11:30am

Friend i used to work with (who’s dad is on this board) has been in and out of

Powerbait DPM

7/28/21 3:23pm

Myocarditis is at least as prevalent in those who had COVID 19.

IgnoreThem

7/28/21 6:59pm

Yeah I’m not trying to discredit anyone. Just show why there is fear. Nobody I

Powerbait DPM

7/28/21 9:01pm

I get that people come from different starting points on this issue. But we

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 11:44pm

Wow getting COVID, I'll ignore long term risk. Made up long term risks

Baron

7/28/21 4:15pm

Why are those with the vaccine so concerned about those who have not?

brick oven

7/29/21 8:39am

Their idiotic views push the idiotic government to do idiotic things and they pu

Baron

7/29/21 12:21pm

For me, it affects my family, workplace and possibly my kids schooling.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 12:50pm

is it the virus affecting you or the reactions to the virus affecting you

brick oven

7/29/21 2:29pm

Yeah, Tea and Crumpets was TIC…kind of

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 5:36pm

Yeah, tea and crumpets part was tic…or was it

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 6:03pm

Tell that to the 4,197,319 Who have died from COVID-19 so far

kC Cougar

7/28/21 10:32am

How many in the age range of 18-24?

Huge Manatee

7/28/21 10:36am

If you are younger than 24 regular flu Is more deadly

Osteotome

7/28/21 6:17pm

And how many young athletes are these?

jrifkin48

7/28/21 10:38am

And none of those are 18-23 y.o. D1 CFB players

Backcountry

7/28/21 10:38am

Jamain Stephans was D1 lineman, dead from Covid-19

Mabuhay Coug

7/28/21 2:38pm

Guess we can force the 79 yo diabetics

Born2Fish

7/28/21 10:39am

Call and ask Tristan Hoge if he wishes he had access to a vaccine to prevent his

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 10:44am

And hopefully none of them miss games due to blood clots.

ochobeeguy

7/28/21 2:55pm

Yes. Because the risk of that is sooooo high.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 2:59pm

what of the risk of myocarditis

brick oven

7/29/21 8:55am

RE: what of the risk of myocarditis

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 1:01pm

your argument is I wonder what Tristen would say? well these are grown men...

brick oven

7/29/21 2:59pm

HIV is not a communicable respiratory disease transmitted by breathing in

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 6:39pm

Your baker analogy is stale since CO just ruled the opposite on another case now

stoils

7/30/21 7:15am

It looks like 3 people confused potd for wpotd.

fbguru

7/28/21 11:08am

There has to be more people like me who know the risk of Covid is low/aren’t

ColonelMustard

7/28/21 1:40pm

RE: Yeah. The risks to COVID is so low I am surprised anyone is still pushing

akbarishiwatsu

7/28/21 4:22pm

Risks of COVID, even to the young adult, is orders of magnitude higher than vax

MDub1

7/28/21 4:35pm

I love how we used to think anti-vaxxers

Burton162

7/28/21 10:09pm

who are they going to infect that you are so concerned about?

brick oven

7/29/21 8:58am

Exactly.. people complain about "big pharma" and then go pop their advil and

GhostRider

7/29/21 11:50am

CDC warned about elevated cases of myocarditis in teens that get vaccinated. Is

DoseOfReality

7/28/21 9:48am

Yes, it is very low risk.

Scratch

7/28/21 10:01am

As is Covid…. Extremely low risk for that age group. Almost zero risk for health

kotacoug

7/28/21 10:31am

Yes. Young healthy people have died from complications related to COVID.

FanofBYU

7/28/21 11:00am

You can’t argue that the vaccine is safe and then turn around and note the

kotacoug

7/28/21 11:17am

Actually, the Delta variant is infecting people in their 20s and 30s. The risk

FanofBYU

7/29/21 12:58pm

I heard it isn't hitting anyone hard. It's a weaker strain.

ImuaKahuku

7/28/21 1:48pm

Then how do you explain the increase in hospitalizations and deaths?

FanofBYU

7/29/21 12:58pm

Wait, what's this Delta variant. This is the first I've heard of this.

ochobeeguy

7/28/21 2:56pm

You’re weighing the wrong risks here.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 2:31pm

The true craziness are the policies regarding Covid. You sound like when the car

kotacoug

7/28/21 8:44pm

I love that when it gets down to it the real issue is politics and not risk.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 11:46pm

If you are young and only weighing the risk of death from COVID versus

SnickSnack

7/28/21 12:02pm

Care to share your numbers? I’ve never seen this claim backed up with real data.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 2:32pm

Not my numbers. This comes from Geert Vanden Bossche PHD. He is an

SnickSnack

7/28/21 5:02pm

Thanks. I’ll have to go look him up and see what he says.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 6:15pm

Solid post, and I appreciate this paragraph

So it goes...

7/28/21 6:23pm

Good post and I think we agree more than we disagree. My point about freedom is

SnickSnack

7/28/21 10:10pm

You are right, we agree on a lot.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 11:57pm

Outstanding post. Thank you.

FanofBYU

7/29/21 1:04pm

The doctor you are referencing here has a reputation for taking a piece of truth

jamfam

7/28/21 10:18pm

Are you sure you aren’t talking about Snopes and not this doctor? They fit the

SnickSnack

7/28/21 10:35pm

You posted a YouTube video... Then defended him by saying he

jamfam

7/28/21 11:19pm

I think it’s a slippery slope to defend against criticism by saying it’s just

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 12:01am

Which risks are you picking in regards to the vaccine?

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 3:10pm

My point is not about BYU football players. I agree with you, they should get

SnickSnack

7/28/21 5:12pm

Context matters. Elevated from nothing to almost nothing is low risk, yes.

WP17

7/28/21 10:05am

Fatal Heart Inflammation Officially Recognized as Being Caused by Pfizer Vax

TutumTeRoboreReddam

7/28/21 12:17pm

Just look at the brazen serpent - it's easy. Maybe too easy for many

CougarGregor

7/28/21 2:06pm

LOW? By comparison to what?

LEDSFW

7/28/21 1:43pm

It's really too bad how people have politicized something so vital. People love

fierce16

7/28/21 3:35pm

I did have a friend 34 yrs old, no problems, die from the vaccine.

coolblue

7/28/21 5:03pm

RE: I did have a friend 34 yrs old, no problems, die from the vaccine.

ebv

7/28/21 11:21pm

Testing protocols will drive them to want to be tested. Especially when they get quarantined the first time for being

Rhino84

7/28/21 9:23am

I would’ve thought so, but apparently not.

The Y's Insider

7/28/21 10:08am

I'm more concerned that BYU is opening itself up to lawsuits because some dumb

panacablue

7/28/21 9:24am

I don't think he gave out any personal private health info

Brigham

7/28/21 9:25am

What lawsuit would the AD get into when he says half the team is not vaccinated?

BYUheaven

7/28/21 9:26am

54.2% of Utahns are not fully vaccinated. I am glad I am on an anonymous

BYUheaven

7/28/21 9:33am

On what basis? He can tel you specifically which players aren’t vaccinated with

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 10:47am

No personal information was revealed.

ArcticKat

7/28/21 9:29am

RE: I'm more concerned that BYU is opening itself up to lawsuits because some

imdocrob

7/28/21 9:35am

That’s an astute take - has DeekLawyer been advising you on HIPAA?

spinner

7/28/21 9:42am

RE: That’s an astute take - has DeekLawyer been advising you on HIPAA?

imdocrob

7/28/21 9:46am

The AD could give you the specific name of the unvaccinated player

sidsie716

7/28/21 2:14pm

This could lead to canceled games

Hinta

7/28/21 9:28am

And/or players sitting out of games. Both are not good options.

Benfica1

7/28/21 9:53am

Maybe some players are still setting up their labs to do their own research

Belboz

7/28/21 9:29am

What percentage of the unvaccinated had Covid already b/c natural immunity?

thecthdox

7/28/21 9:33am

Great point!

Fervent Cougar

7/28/21 9:49am

Why do we keep talking about natural immunity? Are we immune from the flu?

FanofBYU

7/28/21 11:07am

“Influenza” includes at least 4 genus of viruses, with each genus comprising of many subtypes. The complexity with

cheezedawg

7/28/21 11:44am

Well flu mutates much quicker than Covid for one, two their are studies that

thecthdox

7/28/21 1:37pm

Rep. Clay Higgins of Louisiana got infected this week for a second time

ryebrye

7/29/21 8:44am

I'm not sure your sentence makes sense but

IgnoreThem

7/29/21 9:43am

They’ve all had Covid whether symptomatic or asymptomatic.

kotacoug

7/28/21 9:34am

Weird.

Social Distance

7/28/21 9:35am

Yeah, COVID19 probably won't kill them so there's nothing to worry about.

Belboz

7/28/21 9:39am

Other than infection and death (both covered in my post) what else is there?

Social Distance

7/28/21 9:41am

I remember when Jimmer Fredette got mono. It didn't kill him. no big deal.

Belboz

7/28/21 9:45am

I guess he should have gotten the covid vaccine.

Social Distance

7/28/21 9:53am

Even if what you say is true, the NCAA could keep them out of games if they are

Brigham

7/28/21 9:45am

But do you have any idea how difficult it is to get vaccinated?

Belboz

7/28/21 9:48am

The vaccine does not prevent exposure.

Social Distance

7/28/21 9:48am

No, it doesn't. But the rules will say exposure doesn't matter if vaccinated

Brigham

7/28/21 9:53am

That sucks.

Social Distance

7/28/21 9:59am

Most of the team got it?

fattycoug

7/28/21 10:42am

RE: Concerned after talking to a friend in the AD.

Sea Chicken

7/28/21 9:36am

I was initially worried this had something to do with conference realignment...

yorksama

7/28/21 9:39am

After seeing what happened last year across the NCAA

Kilgruman

7/28/21 9:40am

How about they just adjust the stupid rules, restrictions, testing and policies

kotacoug

7/28/21 9:44am

Didn't a lot of the players already get it last year (especially prior to the start of the season)?

Indy Coug

7/28/21 9:46am

Weird thing to worry about

Backcountry

7/28/21 9:47am

Yeah, weird to worry about starters missing games.

The Y's Insider

7/28/21 10:06am

Which highly inaccurate covid test are we using this year?

mokelembembe

7/28/21 9:48am

Amen to that! Those things often pick up fragments of viruses & aren't accurate!

Fervent Cougar

7/28/21 9:51am

I got vaccinated because I coach soccer and didn't want anything to make me sit

Benfica1

7/28/21 9:53am

Not true. My son is on the team and most are vaccinated and the admin basically

cornellcoug

7/28/21 10:07am

That sounds more correct. Jaylon Vickers and a few others have been outspoken

cougfan03

7/28/21 10:26am

He said they have exact numbers and it is below 50%. He would know.

The Y's Insider

7/28/21 10:53am

How would your son know who had been vaccinated?

(Private)

7/29/21 8:32pm

What is rumor and what is fact are very important. I'm not buying this rumor.

Stev_ie

7/28/21 10:30am

Its a political and religious affiliation bias

CougarGregor

7/28/21 11:13am

Yes and liberals were against it because Trump was touting the vaccine. Now they

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 11:33am

And the other side was against it because they viewed it as an election day ploy

jrifkin48

7/28/21 11:39am

Now the vaccine is proven, so it can be supported... capiche?

Bolso

7/28/21 12:28pm

Wait what was proven between Kamala being against it and for it?

DiamondMo

7/28/21 12:33pm

The CDC just said that vaccinated people can still get the virus, so why get a

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 11:31am

98-99% of current Covid hospitalizations and deaths are non-vaccinated people

CougarGregor

7/28/21 1:35pm

So when the CDC comes out yesterday and says that vaccinated people are getting

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 1:56pm

It's what we were originally told - 70% effective. Look at the brazen serpent

CougarGregor

7/28/21 2:04pm

Maybe it is a blessing and I'm not anti vaccine. However I don't want to get it

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 2:36pm

1- you’re off by an order of magnitude. 2- no.. serious illness risk is near 0

WP17

7/28/21 3:42pm

You’re looking at the wrong statistics. Hospitalizations/deaths are wayyyy down

WP17

7/28/21 2:11pm

And there is a 99.8% chance I beat covid ifI get it.Follow the statistics right!

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 2:38pm

It’s about 98.6%. But multiply that across a population and get back to me

WP17

7/28/21 3:38pm

That's IF you believe all the numbers being reported as covid deaths. I don't.

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 3:44pm

You’re claiming a 10x lower death rate. That’s tin foil hat stuff

WP17

7/28/21 4:07pm

Did i give you a number? No. And it seems as if you'll digest anything Fauci say

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 5:41pm

Uh… your number is 4 threads up. And I think Fauci is a fool.

WP17

7/28/21 5:43pm

You need to re-read what i wrote. I didn't give you a DEATH number.

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 6:25pm

That’s… the… same thing… 🤦🏻‍♂️

WP17

7/28/21 6:43pm

Wow a death rate and survival rate over 99%!! Amazing math!

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 11:10pm

*inverse*

WP17

7/29/21 6:09am

Gotta back up SoValley here

stoils

7/29/21 12:19pm

Look at link below, they estimate for undercounted cases.

WP17

7/29/21 1:52pm

RE: That's IF you believe all the numbers being reported as covid deaths. I

jamfam

7/28/21 10:36pm

Yep the medical professionals I've spoken with are idiots with fake degrees.

SoValleyCOUG

7/28/21 11:15pm

IFR is where it’s at. What is the IFR? That is the real number we should be look

kotacoug

7/28/21 4:58pm

98.2% according to Johns Hopkins (accounts for undercounting cases)

WP17

7/28/21 5:04pm

Do you have a link to that?

kotacoug

7/28/21 8:44pm

Yep:

WP17

7/28/21 10:23pm

You can still get covid! This is no different than any other disease and vaccine!

Burton162

7/28/21 10:29pm

LOL! Not in science are ya?

Burton162

7/28/21 10:25pm

The amount of misinformation that has been bought into by people on

kbufcoug

7/28/21 11:36am

Misinformation is the new race card...i disagree w/you so it's misinformation

FMOCIE

7/28/21 11:55am

The amount of cluelessness on this site is astounding.

kbufcoug

7/28/21 11:56am

This may qualify for post of the day!!

Kilgruman

7/28/21 1:02pm

So do you have any evidence these aren’t safe? Or is it just one big coverup?

WP17

7/28/21 4:10pm

Have you read any of Robert Malone's statements--the pioneer of the mRNA vaccine

vaquero

7/28/21 5:44pm

And have you read how both are thoroughly discredited?

WP17

7/28/21 5:46pm

Discredited by a media that censors anyone who dares say something contrary to

vaquero

7/28/21 5:55pm

So the prophet is bending to temporal pressure to endorse a poisonous vax?

WP17

7/28/21 6:45pm

LOL, Robert Malone the pioneer of the mRNA vaccine...

So it goes...

7/28/21 7:32pm

Can’t be! Someone on Reddit told me it was Malone! 😉

WP17

7/28/21 7:40pm

Do I have any evidence? Are you serious?

kbufcoug

7/28/21 6:00pm

You lost me at “isn’t FDA approved” and when you suggest NIH is profiting.

WP17

7/28/21 6:49pm

RE: You lost me at “isn’t FDA approved” and when you suggest

kbufcoug

7/28/21 7:39pm

There’s nuance here,

WP17

7/28/21 7:42pm

RE: There’s nuance here,

kbufcoug

7/28/21 11:51pm

Is this a self reverse? If So- Bravo!

ebv

7/28/21 11:25pm

Good for them. Football isn't more important than potentially injuring yourself

TutumTeRoboreReddam

7/28/21 12:16pm

Glad to hear it. I believe from research the VAX is poison at best.

LEDSFW

7/28/21 12:26pm

I’d like to see the research you did and 99% of doctors didn’t do?

WP17

7/28/21 4:33pm

RE: I’d like to see the research you did and 99% of doctors didn’t

kbufcoug

7/29/21 12:06am

This is getting epic in the amount of under the stairs conspiracists who are

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 12:16am

Ah yes, virologists and researchers don’t know what Kbufcoug knows!

WP17

7/29/21 6:11am

RE: Ah yes, virologists and researchers don’t know what Kbufcoug knows!

kbufcoug

7/29/21 2:05pm

Ahhh. I see now.

WP17

7/29/21 2:10pm

RE: Ahhh. I see now.

kbufcoug

7/29/21 7:44pm

Foolish risk the vaccine is.Cov

towerman

7/28/21 12:27pm

I’m so proud of those who choose not to get vaccinated. We need more free

scorpiondynamo

7/28/21 12:30pm

You can go visit these people in the basement of the hospital.

CougarGregor

7/28/21 1:38pm

So people who choose to get the vaccine are sheep right? Can't think for

GhostRider

7/28/21 4:38pm

I didn’t say all those who got it were sheep.

scorpiondynamo

7/29/21 8:42am

I am glad to hear most athletes are not

BYUvermont

7/28/21 1:01pm

Wrong Category! I turned off the emoji with the mask. Aggravating this is top 10

VTCougar

7/28/21 1:16pm

Hey buddy, our conversation was off the record last night. This is the last time

the_big_blue_funk

7/28/21 2:11pm

useless information unless you know how many of those refusing

dccoug

7/28/21 2:19pm

They played an entire season without vaccines last year. I'm not that worried

YoungOne

7/28/21 2:22pm

One of the Pfizer execs is a stake President on the Northeast

CougarGregor

7/28/21 2:34pm

Mitt Romney was a Stake President as well. Doesn't mean he's my de-facto prophet

jrifkin48

7/28/21 3:30pm

And by that I hope you mean he has been a man of honor and integrity

Chewie

7/28/21 4:24pm

Fine. President Russell M. Nelson - The living Prophet, who also happens to be a

FanofBYU

7/28/21 5:19pm

^^Agreed^^That should be enough.

septicpumper

7/28/21 6:48pm

I think he's actually the area president

ryebrye

7/29/21 8:45am

I’m more concerned there hasn’t been an honor code suspension for over a year

Johnny Vatos

7/28/21 3:40pm

I just saw a YouTube video claiming BYU-HI is making vaccine mandatory for…

icecougar

7/28/21 5:35pm

Yes this is true

HONOMO

7/28/21 7:00pm

So, one football game was canceled, no basketball, and really no

oldrugger

7/28/21 6:28pm

BYU was just fine last year remember? When other teams were cowering.

HONOMO

7/28/21 7:00pm

Some of byu players reportedly got Covid in the summer and had natural immunity

I'mBatman

7/28/21 7:59pm

If true

I'mBatman

7/28/21 7:45pm

"In Utah, hospitals swell with unvaccinated COVID-19 patients"

Section31 Coug

7/29/21 10:26am

Did you read the article?

slatecoug

7/29/21 1:27pm

Of course. Care to point out any problems?

Section31 Coug

7/29/21 11:35pm

🎼 This is the thread that never ends. Yes, it goes on & on my friend. 🎼

Soupie

7/29/21 12:17pm

For those that think COVID is not almost 100% politically driven

ImuaKahuku

7/29/21 5:24pm

That is an excellent video

slatecoug

7/29/21 5:40pm

Sigh…

MDub1

7/29/21 8:19pm

POTD to complete the yahtzee... well done!

Hill4Heisman

7/29/21 6:42pm

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(Private)

7/29/21 8:31pm

This is an extremely long thread.

(Private)

7/30/21 8:20am

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