Then how do you explain the increase in hospitalizations and deaths?

Didn't BYU say they will charge the students for the test? I'd have to imagine

P-Boy Squad

7/28/21 9:21am

Yeah the risks of the vaccine are so low, I’m surprised more haven’t gotten it

Run-DMT

7/28/21 9:22am

Yeah. The risks to COVID is so low I am surprised anyone is still pushing it.

jrifkin48

7/28/21 9:42am

You don't think missing multiple weeks of your football season being in

kimdaddy35

7/28/21 10:10am

I wouldn't ignore long-term risks for short sighted gains.

jrifkin48

7/28/21 10:34am

It is not gene therapy. Please don't spread dumb ideas.

Bolso

7/28/21 10:43am

Can we agree that it isn't a traditional vaccine then?

jrifkin48

7/28/21 10:57am

Did you get the J&J vaccine then?

ldssdl

7/28/21 11:13am

I got the Moderna back in March...it was for work requirements

jrifkin48

7/28/21 11:21am

Follow the science without the politics and you'll understand better

Bolso

7/28/21 11:31am

I have no issue with the shot (its not a traditional vaccine).

jrifkin48

7/28/21 11:55am

Before and after clinical trials were completed

Bolso

7/28/21 12:18pm

Your statement is completely false. Biden’s comments were not a before/after

dawgbite

7/28/21 12:56pm

Pfizer shot was approved December 11.

Bolso

7/28/21 3:15pm

I think we have a great grasp of the risk of major side effects with 100's of millions delivered. Short-term risk reward

Trent

7/29/21 10:38am

Kind of reasonable response. But there isn't about zero risk of an issue

IgnoreThem

7/29/21 10:50am

And a reasonable, logical response back. So people on opposite sides of this can have a respectful conversation. 😉

Trent

7/29/21 11:31am

Traditional vaccines? Well, vaccines are of several types and they are all

84 natlchamps

7/28/21 5:44pm

Have you sprouted your third arm yet?

Delicate Genius

7/28/21 7:42pm

Explain how strongly encouraging scholarship football players is any different than your employer requiring vaccination

antiyewt

7/28/21 7:59pm

Don't need to get yourself and others upset about "gene therapy" when it isn't

Bolso

7/28/21 11:22am

Wrong regarding Pfizer and, I believe, Moderna. They are using a CRISPR RNA

Jasbo

7/28/21 12:37pm

Here is the $1M question. Why is it still allowed? It has a waiver because

ImuaKahuku

7/28/21 2:22pm

Please, enlighten us all with your blood sample research. Using actual sources.

IgnoreThem

7/29/21 7:22am

You can begin with Dr. Peter McCullough and his findings and writings. He gives

ImuaKahuku

7/29/21 8:39am

Oh please. A cable TV talking head. I'm wasting my time.

IgnoreThem

7/29/21 9:37am

Simply dismiss him with no evidence. I server only one Master

ImuaKahuku

7/30/21 6:11am

Please explain what it is then.

ImuaKahuku

7/28/21 1:50pm

It is mRNA getting translated by your cells

Bolso

7/28/21 2:04pm

Fascinating how many act like they know what it is based off of political

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 2:19pm

Good point, which is funny

stoils

7/28/21 3:57pm

I wasn’t aware of that. I don’t give a hoot about GMOs.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 11:31pm

What a strange thing to say

fatcracker

7/28/21 10:44am

It's been around for less than a year. What a strange thing to say.

jrifkin48

7/28/21 10:46am

Random people talking about stuff they don't know anything about is also strange

Bolso

7/28/21 11:11am

Of the Moderna, J&J and Pfizer shots, which one is a traditional vaccine?

jrifkin48

7/28/21 11:24am

J&J is traditional. And I am defending the mRNA ones, did you read?

Bolso

7/28/21 12:05pm

Both y’all madly on Google right now looking up info on these vaccines. Zero cougar boarders changed their view

Honor Code

7/28/21 12:36pm

Wrong! My MD in virology is from DuckDuckGo. I don't trust the Googles

jrifkin48

7/28/21 1:21pm

^^^ New to CB ^^^

DirtyWater

7/28/21 11:32am

So should those that have had COVID still get the vaccine?

Cnation

7/28/21 6:34pm

Yet you speak of long-term effects.

civilcoug

7/28/21 1:20pm

It's been worked on and developed over decades. It's not something brand new.

So it goes...

7/28/21 1:41pm

They’ve been working with the technology for years

I'mBatman

7/28/21 7:48pm

But it’s still a trial…

Cnation

7/28/21 8:24pm

It. Is. Not. A. Trial.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 11:35pm

RE: It. Is. Not. A. Trial.

Cnation

7/29/21 3:18pm

So we agree.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 6:30pm

RE: So we agree.

Cnation

7/29/21 9:17pm

Agree. And I’m glad no one is being forced to get it. Freedom first.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/30/21 8:35am

Why assume there will be long-term effects? That seems so short sighted.

FanofBYU

7/28/21 10:54am

Every 90+ year old should get the shot

stoils

7/28/21 4:02pm

Oh wow, this is such an ignorant take. This is not gene

kimdaddy35

7/28/21 11:30am

Friend i used to work with (who’s dad is on this board) has been in and out of

Powerbait DPM

7/28/21 3:23pm

Myocarditis is at least as prevalent in those who had COVID 19.

IgnoreThem

7/28/21 6:59pm

Yeah I’m not trying to discredit anyone. Just show why there is fear. Nobody I

Powerbait DPM

7/28/21 9:01pm

I get that people come from different starting points on this issue. But we

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 11:44pm

Wow getting COVID, I'll ignore long term risk. Made up long term risks

Baron

7/28/21 4:15pm

Why are those with the vaccine so concerned about those who have not?

brick oven

7/29/21 8:39am

Their idiotic views push the idiotic government to do idiotic things and they pu

Baron

7/29/21 12:21pm

For me, it affects my family, workplace and possibly my kids schooling.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 12:50pm

is it the virus affecting you or the reactions to the virus affecting you

brick oven

7/29/21 2:29pm

Yeah, Tea and Crumpets was TIC…kind of

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 5:36pm

Yeah, tea and crumpets part was tic…or was it

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 6:03pm

Tell that to the 4,197,319 Who have died from COVID-19 so far

kC Cougar

7/28/21 10:32am

How many in the age range of 18-24?

Huge Manatee

7/28/21 10:36am

If you are younger than 24 regular flu Is more deadly

Osteotome

7/28/21 6:17pm

And how many young athletes are these?

jrifkin48

7/28/21 10:38am

And none of those are 18-23 y.o. D1 CFB players

Backcountry

7/28/21 10:38am

Jamain Stephans was D1 lineman, dead from Covid-19

Mabuhay Coug

7/28/21 2:38pm

Guess we can force the 79 yo diabetics

Born2Fish

7/28/21 10:39am

Call and ask Tristan Hoge if he wishes he had access to a vaccine to prevent his

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 10:44am

And hopefully none of them miss games due to blood clots.

ochobeeguy

7/28/21 2:55pm

Yes. Because the risk of that is sooooo high.

StalwartBraveTrue

7/28/21 2:59pm

what of the risk of myocarditis

brick oven

7/29/21 8:55am

RE: what of the risk of myocarditis

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 1:01pm

your argument is I wonder what Tristen would say? well these are grown men...

brick oven

7/29/21 2:59pm

HIV is not a communicable respiratory disease transmitted by breathing in

StalwartBraveTrue

7/29/21 6:39pm

Your baker analogy is stale since CO just ruled the opposite on another case now

stoils

7/30/21 7:15am

It looks like 3 people confused potd for wpotd.

fbguru

7/28/21 11:08am

There has to be more people like me who know the risk of Covid is low/aren’t

ColonelMustard

7/28/21 1:40pm

RE: Yeah. The risks to COVID is so low I am surprised anyone is still pushing

akbarishiwatsu

7/28/21 4:22pm

Risks of COVID, even to the young adult, is orders of magnitude higher than vax

MDub1

7/28/21 4:35pm

I love how we used to think anti-vaxxers

Burton162

7/28/21 10:09pm

who are they going to infect that you are so concerned about?

brick oven

7/29/21 8:58am

Exactly.. people complain about "big pharma" and then go pop their advil and

GhostRider

7/29/21 11:50am

CDC warned about elevated cases of myocarditis in teens that get vaccinated. Is

DoseOfReality

7/28/21 9:48am

Yes, it is very low risk.

Scratch

7/28/21 10:01am

As is Covid…. Extremely low risk for that age group. Almost zero risk for health

kotacoug

7/28/21 10:31am

Yes. Young healthy people have died from complications related to COVID.

FanofBYU

7/28/21 11:00am

You can’t argue that the vaccine is safe and then turn around and note the

kotacoug

7/28/21 11:17am

Actually, the Delta variant is infecting people in their 20s and 30s. The risk

FanofBYU