I've heard similar things. Go to utah and the whole staff

Jul 10, 2018
11:15:08am

johnnycarson All-American

Knows your family names and sib names and it's a family.

You would think that byu would be good at this.

Even if byu were really good and the little things, good players are still going to go to a p5 most of the time.

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I don't trust Sitake right now. I know these third hand comments need to be

cougaman

7/10/18 11:10am

You do realize we went 4-9 last year, right?

kimdaddy35

7/10/18 11:13am

I try to forget it was that bad. So, he's a 4-9 coach

cougaman

7/10/18 11:18am

I've heard similar things. Go to utah and the whole staff

johnnycarson

7/10/18 11:15am

There is a difference between seeming like you are working hard and actually

byukarl

7/10/18 1:49pm

Until he proves otherwise, I think Sitake is a disorganized mess.

mudpupper

7/10/18 11:16am

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MarkWatney

7/10/18 10:33pm

Certainly doesn't appear he is fulfilling that role.

TheLoneCougar

7/11/18 7:28am

should've been done from day 1. there is no wiggle room on this

mindzeYe

7/11/18 12:19am

So his inaugural season with a record of 9-4 doesn't count?

Rise Against

7/10/18 11:16am

like any sales or management job, you are only as good as your last measurement

Nat Gas Man

7/10/18 11:17am

Yes, but as with those industries, the more data the better. One year can be

Rise Against

7/10/18 11:21am

I'm not calling for his head, but I think he is on notice

cougaman

7/10/18 11:22am

Has been an epic failure 2 out of the past 3 years. Failure has become the norm

Gorum the Old

7/10/18 12:20pm

3 years? He's only had two complete seasons at BYU. So much ignorance on CB.

Rise Against

7/10/18 12:24pm

And you're really going to try and attach Oregon State failures to just Sitake?

Rise Against

7/10/18 12:27pm

At Oregon St he inherited the #74 defense and left a #115 defense after 1 year.

Gorum the Old

7/10/18 12:49pm

Stop with the silly numbers on paper with no context people. Please.

Lip Gallagher

7/10/18 12:56pm

Do you give Crowton all the credit for his first season?

cougaman

7/10/18 11:20am

That was a gift from the prior coaching staff

Cougrrrs Roll

7/10/18 11:25am

Honest question, is Kalani in charge of the agenda, etc of the recruiting trips,

viper

7/10/18 11:19am

Yes he is charge of every aspect of the football program

kimdaddy35

7/10/18 11:20am

If not he should be

youngbuck

7/10/18 11:21am

He won't need to worry about all these details next year.

johnnycarson

7/10/18 11:23am

No he shouldn't be. Somebody else handles all that and he oversees that it

mudpupper

7/10/18 11:25am

If that is how they are doing it, then they should fail. He needs to put the

Nat Gas Man

7/10/18 11:33am

Just seems a university would want someone funner than a HC to plan a great trip

viper

7/10/18 11:55am

I'm not saying they plan the details, that needs to be a party planner, but the

Nat Gas Man

7/10/18 12:01pm

He is in charge and he should be. It sounds like the recruiting trip was simila

Gorum the Old

7/10/18 12:35pm

I hope your right, at least that way he can now take charge and fix it.

youngbuck

7/10/18 12:47pm

Extreme Ownership. He may not be in charge of day to day, but he is in charge of

TheLoneCougar

7/11/18 7:31am

Did you forget he had a 9 win season or you just the normal its all bad.

Beetdiggercoug

7/10/18 12:04pm

No I did not forget that, but he did that with players that were developed by

cougaman

7/10/18 12:30pm

What have you done for me lately, baby!

Eddie

7/10/18 12:40pm

I'm trying to be in the wait and see mode. I hear recruits say that the program

cougaman

7/10/18 1:04pm

But Kalani said it was al Ty’s fault

Chet Donnelly

7/10/18 1:12pm

I know I won't dissuade you...

kapcreations

7/10/18 3:04pm

It was a disaster from the first game. Quit using the excuse of injuries.

coolblue

7/10/18 3:10pm

. . . and inexperienced offensive coaching that couldn't get the job done.

viper

7/10/18 3:15pm

The "inexperienced" coaches got it done in 2016

kapcreations

7/10/18 3:30pm

Thank you Bronco, Hill and Jamal for 2016.

coolblue

7/10/18 3:38pm

The 2016 offensive coaches did not "get it done". They underperformed, but

viper

7/10/18 8:27pm

They got a lot of turnovers which were huge in many of the wins and close losses

cougaman

7/10/18 8:46pm

I agree with that, but that is still KS's fault. Why he hired friends rather

coolblue

7/10/18 3:36pm

I understand all of that, but I also saw a vanilla defense that didn't try to

cougaman

7/10/18 3:44pm

The defense in 2016 was different than 2017. Why?

kapcreations

7/10/18 4:12pm

I hope for an improved defense, but I'm skeptical of tuiaki

cougaman

7/10/18 4:21pm

No other teams suffer injuries?

Cougstreak

7/10/18 4:09pm

Show a team with 22 injuries on the 2 deep. I'll show you a team that struggles

kapcreations

7/10/18 4:14pm

Excuses.

Cougstreak

7/10/18 4:48pm

You’re missing the point

kapcreations

7/10/18 5:06pm

Again excuses.

Cougstreak

7/10/18 5:29pm

Well, Lavell did go 5-6 his first year, pretty close, but what exactly is

SUAVO

7/10/18 7:51pm

RE: Well, Lavell did go 5-6 his first year, pretty close, but what exactly is

Cougstreak

7/10/18 10:23pm

Very true. His first bowl win was 10 years down the road too. Sitake got one his

SUAVO

7/10/18 10:54pm

You just can’t compare bowl records in the 70s to bowl records now. It’s silly

Scratch

7/10/18 10:59pm

Technically, you're responding to a post where I was comparing when

SUAVO

7/10/18 11:10pm

Right, but the point is that you can't compare when they got their wins because

Scratch

7/10/18 11:39pm

Yep.

Cougstreak

7/11/18 6:40am

You can’t be serious.

Cougstreak

7/11/18 6:44am

Not to mention LSU had most of their starters out

D.T. Survivor

7/10/18 6:13pm

So it's ok to talk about injuries to players as a reason the team struggles??

byu_coug

7/10/18 7:37pm

Wouldn't he actually be a 13-12 coach?

SUAVO

7/10/18 5:41pm

RE: Wouldn't he actually be a 13-12 coach?

cougaman

7/10/18 5:50pm

Didn't know we weren't counting the first year of a coach's tenure

SUAVO

7/10/18 7:44pm

He did not develop those players that led the team in 2016. Yes, he was the

cougaman

7/10/18 8:02pm

It looks more like the 4-9 coach than the 9-4 coach, I agree, but i would rather

SUAVO

7/10/18 9:13pm

It does ask a bigger question.

wilsdad

7/10/18 8:10pm

Agreed, I don’t see a clear vision or organized effort to carry one out

D.T. Survivor

7/10/18 8:48pm

Bronco knew where he was weak and knew that he didn't have all the answers.

TheLoneCougar

7/11/18 7:34am

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