The 2016 offensive coaches did not "get it done". They underperformed, but

Jul 10, 2018
8:27:51pm

viper All-American

the 2016 defense did great. The 2016 offense struggled enough to make me worry about the 2017 offense. They certainly did not get it done.

The defense is what kept us in the 2016 games, and they actually scored a good amount

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I don't trust Sitake right now. I know these third hand comments need to be

cougaman

7/10/18 11:10am

You do realize we went 4-9 last year, right?

kimdaddy35

7/10/18 11:13am

I try to forget it was that bad. So, he's a 4-9 coach

cougaman

7/10/18 11:18am

I've heard similar things. Go to utah and the whole staff

johnnycarson

7/10/18 11:15am

There is a difference between seeming like you are working hard and actually

byukarl

7/10/18 1:49pm

Until he proves otherwise, I think Sitake is a disorganized mess.

mudpupper

7/10/18 11:16am

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MarkWatney

7/10/18 10:33pm

Certainly doesn't appear he is fulfilling that role.

TheLoneCougar

7/11/18 7:28am

should've been done from day 1. there is no wiggle room on this

mindzeYe

7/11/18 12:19am

So his inaugural season with a record of 9-4 doesn't count?

Rise Against

7/10/18 11:16am

like any sales or management job, you are only as good as your last measurement

Nat Gas Man

7/10/18 11:17am

Yes, but as with those industries, the more data the better. One year can be

Rise Against

7/10/18 11:21am

I'm not calling for his head, but I think he is on notice

cougaman

7/10/18 11:22am

Has been an epic failure 2 out of the past 3 years. Failure has become the norm

Gorum the Old

7/10/18 12:20pm

3 years? He's only had two complete seasons at BYU. So much ignorance on CB.

Rise Against

7/10/18 12:24pm

And you're really going to try and attach Oregon State failures to just Sitake?

Rise Against

7/10/18 12:27pm

At Oregon St he inherited the #74 defense and left a #115 defense after 1 year.

Gorum the Old

7/10/18 12:49pm

Stop with the silly numbers on paper with no context people. Please.

Lip Gallagher

7/10/18 12:56pm

Do you give Crowton all the credit for his first season?

cougaman

7/10/18 11:20am

That was a gift from the prior coaching staff

Cougrrrs Roll

7/10/18 11:25am

Honest question, is Kalani in charge of the agenda, etc of the recruiting trips,

viper

7/10/18 11:19am

Yes he is charge of every aspect of the football program

kimdaddy35

7/10/18 11:20am

If not he should be

youngbuck

7/10/18 11:21am

He won't need to worry about all these details next year.

johnnycarson

7/10/18 11:23am

No he shouldn't be. Somebody else handles all that and he oversees that it

mudpupper

7/10/18 11:25am

If that is how they are doing it, then they should fail. He needs to put the

Nat Gas Man

7/10/18 11:33am

Just seems a university would want someone funner than a HC to plan a great trip

viper

7/10/18 11:55am

I'm not saying they plan the details, that needs to be a party planner, but the

Nat Gas Man

7/10/18 12:01pm

He is in charge and he should be. It sounds like the recruiting trip was simila

Gorum the Old

7/10/18 12:35pm

I hope your right, at least that way he can now take charge and fix it.

youngbuck

7/10/18 12:47pm

Extreme Ownership. He may not be in charge of day to day, but he is in charge of

TheLoneCougar

7/11/18 7:31am

Did you forget he had a 9 win season or you just the normal its all bad.

Beetdiggercoug

7/10/18 12:04pm

No I did not forget that, but he did that with players that were developed by

cougaman

7/10/18 12:30pm

What have you done for me lately, baby!

Eddie

7/10/18 12:40pm

I'm trying to be in the wait and see mode. I hear recruits say that the program

cougaman

7/10/18 1:04pm

But Kalani said it was al Ty’s fault

Chet Donnelly

7/10/18 1:12pm

I know I won't dissuade you...

kapcreations

7/10/18 3:04pm

It was a disaster from the first game. Quit using the excuse of injuries.

coolblue

7/10/18 3:10pm

. . . and inexperienced offensive coaching that couldn't get the job done.

viper

7/10/18 3:15pm

The "inexperienced" coaches got it done in 2016

kapcreations

7/10/18 3:30pm

Thank you Bronco, Hill and Jamal for 2016.

coolblue

7/10/18 3:38pm

The 2016 offensive coaches did not "get it done". They underperformed, but

viper

7/10/18 8:27pm

They got a lot of turnovers which were huge in many of the wins and close losses

cougaman

7/10/18 8:46pm

I agree with that, but that is still KS's fault. Why he hired friends rather

coolblue

7/10/18 3:36pm

I understand all of that, but I also saw a vanilla defense that didn't try to

cougaman

7/10/18 3:44pm

The defense in 2016 was different than 2017. Why?

kapcreations

7/10/18 4:12pm

I hope for an improved defense, but I'm skeptical of tuiaki

cougaman

7/10/18 4:21pm

No other teams suffer injuries?

Cougstreak

7/10/18 4:09pm

Show a team with 22 injuries on the 2 deep. I'll show you a team that struggles

kapcreations

7/10/18 4:14pm

Excuses.

Cougstreak

7/10/18 4:48pm

You’re missing the point

kapcreations

7/10/18 5:06pm

Again excuses.

Cougstreak

7/10/18 5:29pm

Well, Lavell did go 5-6 his first year, pretty close, but what exactly is

SUAVO

7/10/18 7:51pm

RE: Well, Lavell did go 5-6 his first year, pretty close, but what exactly is

Cougstreak

7/10/18 10:23pm

Very true. His first bowl win was 10 years down the road too. Sitake got one his

SUAVO

7/10/18 10:54pm

You just can’t compare bowl records in the 70s to bowl records now. It’s silly

Scratch

7/10/18 10:59pm

Technically, you're responding to a post where I was comparing when

SUAVO

7/10/18 11:10pm

Right, but the point is that you can't compare when they got their wins because

Scratch

7/10/18 11:39pm

Yep.

Cougstreak

7/11/18 6:40am

You can’t be serious.

Cougstreak

7/11/18 6:44am

Not to mention LSU had most of their starters out

D.T. Survivor

7/10/18 6:13pm

So it's ok to talk about injuries to players as a reason the team struggles??

byu_coug

7/10/18 7:37pm

Wouldn't he actually be a 13-12 coach?

SUAVO

7/10/18 5:41pm

RE: Wouldn't he actually be a 13-12 coach?

cougaman

7/10/18 5:50pm

Didn't know we weren't counting the first year of a coach's tenure

SUAVO

7/10/18 7:44pm

He did not develop those players that led the team in 2016. Yes, he was the

cougaman

7/10/18 8:02pm

It looks more like the 4-9 coach than the 9-4 coach, I agree, but i would rather

SUAVO

7/10/18 9:13pm

It does ask a bigger question.

wilsdad

7/10/18 8:10pm

Agreed, I don’t see a clear vision or organized effort to carry one out

D.T. Survivor

7/10/18 8:48pm

Bronco knew where he was weak and knew that he didn't have all the answers.

TheLoneCougar

7/11/18 7:34am

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