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Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

NFCougar

7/12/18 10:28pm

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Hector

7/12/18 10:34pm

I would hope so.

Cougarrr

7/12/18 10:35pm

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

franklyvulgar

7/12/18 10:38pm

IF what you're suggesting is true, doesn't it follow the major problem was Kalani?

jdub

7/12/18 10:38pm

I've been critical of Kalani, but if he changes for the better how is that bad?

Little Britches

7/12/18 10:44pm

That would be a good thing, I agree. However, if we really analyze this narrative, it claims discipline/culture

jdub

7/12/18 10:59pm

I saw him own the 4-9 all the time.

BYURider

7/13/18 5:10am

Ummm... he consistently blamed everyone else. From Linehan to TD to everyone.

thecthdox

7/13/18 7:21am

Every interview I ever saw he said it is on the

BYURider

7/13/18 7:35am

Then you did not listen to many interviews. The few times I heard that kind of

thecthdox

7/13/18 8:01am

That is the issue. He would say it after he was done tossing everyone else under

BYUtka

7/13/18 8:22am

Or he did listen but heard what he wanted to hear

unctoothman

7/13/18 10:08am

I agree. In every post game I can still hear him saying "this is on me," "this is on me. "

MaxxPower

7/13/18 8:01am

This is true. When he was done blaming everyone else, he would toss that out.

BYUtka

7/13/18 8:24am

I was watching him pout all year. Not sure what YOU were watching.

Seaward

7/13/18 8:48am

I saw a coach acting the way he should in the

BYURider

7/13/18 8:55am

Agree to disagree. His sideline presence was DREADFUL if not embarrassing.

Seaward

7/13/18 8:59am

If you blame everything and anything

BYURider

7/13/18 9:18am

You know 2016 did not look good, right?

jdub

7/13/18 9:40am

The majority of "bad" things I heard about Kalani's

BYURider

7/13/18 9:54am

I'm stating something that logically flows from what the OP said. I'm being consistent.

jdub

7/13/18 10:03am

How did they go 9-4 then if the 1st year had

BYURider

7/13/18 10:11am

Do a little more research..

TheLost

7/13/18 10:21am

RE: Do a little more research..

jdub

7/13/18 10:36am

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kimdaddy35

7/13/18 12:43pm

Ummm no......hc can choose that path .many dont

CarolinaCoug

7/13/18 11:39pm

I've said multiple times that the players were awful last year.

Seaward

7/13/18 10:12am

The players. The coaches job is to prepare, but

BYURider

7/13/18 10:26am

Clearly you missed this blame gem from the almanac

Y4LYFE

7/13/18 12:22pm

"He's changed!" [Throws Tanner under the bus a few weeks ago]

Division Bell

7/13/18 5:48am

No he didn't

BYURider

7/13/18 5:51am

Was that someone else’s fault too?

BYUtka

7/13/18 6:46am

False. Tanner himself was critical of his performance last year.

NFCougar

7/13/18 6:47am

Those are not mutually exclusive. Kalani’s statement at media day sure sounded

BYUtka

7/13/18 6:51am

Wow.

NFCougar

7/13/18 6:57am

Thanks, Sis. Sitake. Nice of you to start an account today.

Division Bell

7/13/18 8:15am

So, out of fear of throwing anyone under the bus what does he say? Everything...

icecougar

7/16/18 10:45am

He didn't throw him under the bus. I'm sure Tanner would fully agree with him

D.T. Survivor

7/13/18 8:06am

Tanner did agree with him. He owned it

icecougar

7/16/18 10:48am

How did he throw Tanner under the bus?

MacroCougar

7/13/18 9:13am

That happens. When QB play was the major roadblock to success in 2012...

icecougar

7/19/18 12:07pm

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East1999

7/13/18 8:03am

That's kind of funny. The OP says outright culture was a huge problem. And you object to my saying

jdub

7/13/18 8:15am

It's Kalani's fault... even if it isn't.

TheLost

7/13/18 8:18am

As I said, if the OP is correct (that culture/lack of discipline were a major concern) that IS on the head coach

jdub

7/13/18 9:11am

Viewpoint...

TheLost

7/13/18 9:54am

That's pretty crazy--you just claimed the head coach has no responsibility for morale, of discipline, for team culture

jdub

7/13/18 10:05am

I don't know if I buy into the "It's Kalani's fault." I'm wondering if Kalani

FanofBYU

7/13/18 2:50pm

He didn't treat Ty poorly. That offense was bad.

hammergm

7/13/18 4:50pm

So was the freakig defense and the S&C!! AND SPECIAL TEAMS!!

CarolinaCoug

7/13/18 11:45pm

The D really needs to improve this year. That should be something that he owns

LaserCoug

7/14/18 2:27pm

& we've seen Kalani implement things to change the course/direction of the team

icecougar

7/19/18 11:40am

you joined CB today just to post that?

PenrynCoug

7/12/18 10:43pm

I'm skipping the Kool-Aid this summer. Thanks though.

Shore10

7/12/18 10:47pm

Kool Aid?

NFCougar

7/12/18 10:54pm

Do you think @ least 6-6 with a bowl win finishing 7-6 is realistic?

wickedgame71

7/12/18 10:56pm

Ya, I think it’s a 6 win team (maybe 7).

NFCougar

7/13/18 7:02am

I’ve been cynical about the team and program but I can get on

Traveshamockery

7/13/18 7:34am

This is exactly why the Sitake hire has been a disaster.

ataylor

7/13/18 7:50am

I agree. But I would add that regardless of who we hire,

Traveshamockery

7/13/18 8:14am

I think if BYU were to make smart coaching and AD hires, along with smarter

ataylor

7/13/18 8:22am

It may have been a typo but I don’t think the new

Traveshamockery

7/13/18 8:56am

I want to believe.......

Ode to Hoy

7/12/18 10:57pm

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Pimpin4Paradise

7/12/18 11:26pm

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Dread Pirate Westley

7/12/18 11:35pm

Of all those things you predict only 1 has any support

Y4LYFE

7/13/18 1:11am

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Gerald-DeGroot

7/13/18 1:25am

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Imacoug

7/13/18 4:39am

Let me guess, guys are "flying around" on the field?

Mister P

7/13/18 5:09am

😂

Fervent Cougar

7/13/18 7:05am

Nope. They're dancing around the field. That's how much more fun they're

Ash

7/13/18 8:24am

I wonder when those alleged changes will trickle down to recruiting, 7 on 7 and other activities

TEXAS

7/13/18 6:08am

RE: I wonder when those alleged changes will trickle down to recruiting, 7 on 7

NFCougar

7/13/18 6:45am

It's not just one dude. And they aren't just random parents. You, on the other hand, are some random fan

TEXAS

7/13/18 7:24am

What are the players/recruits saying on Twitter

NFCougar

7/13/18 7:48am

I'm not sure. I don't creepily follow teenagers on the internet

TEXAS

7/13/18 8:19am

Ohh gotcha. But you’ll assume full credibility

NFCougar

7/13/18 9:22am

Nope. The sources aren’t all anonymous to me.

TEXAS

7/13/18 12:34pm

and trash in the locker room 😉

D.T. Survivor

7/13/18 8:07am

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

acougfan

7/13/18 6:43am

Everyone cites the O and only the O for improved discipline but the D

Coogar2

7/13/18 7:02am

So we are a 5 win team? Guess that's an improvement.. ;).

Bert609

7/13/18 7:06am

Tom and Kalani need to bring in this guy to fire the team and organization up:

TheLoneCougar

7/13/18 7:23am

Or this guy

Cougarrr

7/13/18 8:40am

Team gave up last year at East Carolina. A complete give up job. Never thought

MajorZeus

7/13/18 7:27am

I’m not making excuses but ALOT of teams give up against

Gerald-DeGroot

7/13/18 12:13pm

You must have missed 54-10.

Real Men Wear Blue

7/13/18 12:42pm

most painful thing I've ever witnessed

icecougar

7/16/18 10:24am

That's the first time you've seen a BYU team give up?? Are you a new fan or...

icecougar

7/16/18 10:22am

I saw that painful display and agree. Since I sat a few rows up at the East

MajorZeus

7/16/18 1:59pm

Not an 8 win team? So is it a 7 win team? I think only 7 wins would be a little

Yunit

7/13/18 7:31am

Yeah. 6 wins should be the worst. so 2 extra wins is not likely? thats not good

Return of the Yeti

7/13/18 10:01am

So, which assistant coach or relative Kalani is this?

Adrielle

7/13/18 8:23am

Thank you. I'm tired of hearing only negativity and whining

Judge Judy

7/13/18 10:34am

What Sitake and Detmer got wrong

hamaca

7/13/18 11:52am

I don't believe today's players are any different. Discipline on a football

MormonThug

7/13/18 12:11pm

The team is further along, stronger, faster, closer than ever. Lots of grit, too

Real Men Wear Blue

7/13/18 12:41pm

Not an 8-win team? Come on now. 7-win season and a bowl win is not asking a lot

andrewg3

7/13/18 2:37pm

I’ll take “what is impact of losing to UMASS at home for 500 Alex”

cougarnw

7/13/18 3:50pm

not according to Mr Scoob

icecougar

7/13/18 8:25pm

It's amazing what losing 20 pounds does for morale

Y4LYFE

7/14/18 12:36am

Whether that is true or not I don't really care....

CoachSpeak

7/16/18 11:12am

Unfortunately the culture on Cougarboard isn't different from last year...

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