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Feb 7, 2019
8:29:32am

LifelongAP Walk-on

Losing out on this type of kid always surprises me

3 star safety, mission-first Polynesian from California, bunch of offers, and he commits to Utah. He talked about how BYU was his mother’s “Dream School” for him when BYU offered.

3yrs ago I went to a BYU event with @StuTua because he wanted me to meet the first Tongan HC in College Football..Mom was sooo happy because that was her Dream School 4 me! Well Mama, they offered me today & I wanted 2 let U know! @kalanifsitake thx 4 believing in me #GoCougs🤙🏽🇹🇴 pic.twitter.com/Qmj84QTbD7
— Sione Taufa Vaki (@sione_vaki) November 14, 2018

https://twitter.com/sione_vaki/status/1062603273834643456

After I serve a 2 year mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints..I will then further my education and football career at a place that I will live and start a family long after football and that will be at..The University of Utah #GoUtes#MLUYFI #TeamPala#Lions🇹🇴 pic.twitter.com/LzsMOky4LG
— Sione Taufa Vaki (@sione_vaki) February 7, 2019

https://twitter.com/sione_vaki/status/1093319654712303616

Sione Vaki, Liberty , Safety

Sione Vaki is a 6-0, 190-pound Safety from Brentwood, CA.

https://247sports.com/Player/Sione-Vaki-46050560/

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Losing out on this type of kid always surprises me

LifelongAP

2/7/19 8:29am

Beat Utah a few times and the issue should resolve itself, right?

letthewookiewin

2/7/19 8:35am

That's one piece of the puzzle but not all of it.

shakarocks

2/7/19 9:12am

Its a huge piece for a kid who wants to win his games.

(Private)

2/7/19 11:18am

What if kid can win games and play in a better conference?

shakarocks

2/7/19 11:28am

You thumbs downer folks make me laugh

shakarocks

2/7/19 2:07pm

I was just going to say the same thing, 100% BYU fan here but those who gave the

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:05pm

What is up with all the uu fans trolling on here. Weird.

Benfica1

2/8/19 11:14am

Why? He very clearly said it was his mom's dream school for him not his own.

mulletino

2/7/19 8:35am

We win with Moms and Dads all the time but then the kid wants to go somewhere el

BYU Grounds

2/7/19 3:31pm

Even though he's not coming to BYU, his head is in the right direction.

Jazzyturtle

2/7/19 8:36am

It's dirty, but Kyle scares them with the HC.

Left Shark Coug

2/7/19 8:36am

How is that dirty?

jlm252

2/7/19 8:38am

Because he is Satan making them feel unworthy obviously! He is Urban spawn.

Grit for Brains

2/7/19 8:40am

Hype your own school, don't tear down another for actually daring to have

Left Shark Coug

2/7/19 8:41am

OK. This is a great post!!

buckowens

2/8/19 9:20am

If a candid discussion about the HC is enough to sway a kid...

jlm252

2/8/19 10:06am

Because a Mormon who went there should know better.

DraperCoug22

2/7/19 8:45am

how can you scare a kid that has plans for a mission. seems he'd be fine.

2/7/19 8:39am

Not all mission bound kids are living the Peter Priesthood life.

Left Shark Coug

2/7/19 8:43am

not that hard, pull out a few examples like Ula etc. you can't mess up even 1x

LEHI cougar

2/7/19 8:44am

I know this is what Utah tells recruits. But it's completely false. I have

Lance71

2/7/19 11:58am

Completely agree.

Benfica1

2/7/19 1:31pm

Do you work in the honor code office? (Sincere question)

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:07pm

My wife did.

Lance71

2/7/19 10:44pm

That's interesting. So as far as the cases involving consensual premarital sex

Coug Man in Florida

2/8/19 1:34pm

Specifics about individuals is totally inappropriate.

Lance71

2/8/19 2:50pm

What I have seen and heard (not specific to anyone) is....

Cougstreak

2/8/19 3:09pm

That's spot on to what I'm trying to ask because it has not seemed that

Coug Man in Florida

2/8/19 3:18pm

Not asking for THEIR specifics, just want to know SPECIFICS about the HC and

Coug Man in Florida

2/8/19 3:16pm

I have never seen a person get suspended for a first time offense no matter

Lance71

2/8/19 4:45pm

Gotcha. Thanks for the info! This is honestly the first time I've heard someone

Coug Man in Florida

2/8/19 5:25pm

Thats not true at all...

TheLost

2/7/19 8:43am

How many non-lds players got baptized at BYU this year?

TheLost

2/7/19 8:48am

Had no idea DHC got baptized. Very cool!

Demosthenes Red

2/8/19 7:47am

Outright lie.

RockyBalboa

2/7/19 9:39am

Problem is we don’t know all the inner workings...did he maintain academic

Give'emBerg

2/7/19 8:41am

Awesome.

Scratch

2/7/19 8:47am

Surprised it took 12 minutes

NarfUte

2/7/19 8:52am

Even as a Y fan, I'm sick of these pompous idiots always saying

ReggaeCoug

2/7/19 9:43am

Agreed and people don’t realize it is not that tough to get in as an...

Cougstreak

2/7/19 4:49pm

Whoa whoa whoa!

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:10pm

Come on, there couldn't possibly be any reason a recruit would pick

kos

2/7/19 10:13am

BYU makes pretty hefty academic exceptions for athletes

LifelongAP

2/7/19 9:07am

Is BYU still the one & only D1 school accepting academic nonqualifiers or

ALUF 1990

2/7/19 10:19am

To be fair, most conferences will allow very limited non-qualifiers, like 1 or 2

Scratch

2/7/19 10:42am

Can you provide one example of a recruit BYU offered that wouldn’t have been

Cougar76

2/7/19 5:40pm

Dayan Lake. And BYU's general admission standards are tougher, but not for

Scratch

2/7/19 5:44pm

Oh please. 4* Dayan Lake, #1 DB recruit in Utah. The utes who

Cougar76

2/7/19 5:54pm

He was a non-qualifier, so no, he wasn’t going to Utah. And he decommited from

Scratch

2/7/19 6:14pm

Lololol. The only thing missing is your “non-commutable offer” schpeel you guys

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:19pm

It’s widely reported that he decommitted from BYU and explored his options,

Scratch

2/7/19 6:28pm

I googled it. Any link other than utefans? I showed you a legitimate article

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:38pm

He decommitted, explores his options, never got an offer from Utah, and then

Scratch

2/7/19 6:45pm

If it was “all very public” then surely you could find one article supporting

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:58pm

RE: If it was “all very public” then surely you could find one

Scratch

2/7/19 7:06pm

So, “no”. That’s what I thought. You have absolutely

Cougar76

2/7/19 7:23pm

Except that Utah allows one prop 48 player in per season

donnerstag

2/7/19 6:25pm

For all men’s sports. Those spots are not just handed out, and most years the

Scratch

2/7/19 6:29pm

Football is king in athletic departments

donnerstag

2/7/19 6:54pm

That’s not what Utah does. Not sure if that’s a P12 thing or a Utah thing.

Scratch

2/7/19 7:07pm

And they offered him. These guys are delusional. If Dayan wanted to play at Utah

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:36pm

Nope. Can’t take non-qualifiers, except every few years they can take 1. There’s

Scratch

2/7/19 6:48pm

He was rated 4 stars and had several offers including utah. Here’s a 2nd article

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:54pm

Yeah, it’s strange how those BYU blogs are inconsistent with the national

Scratch

2/7/19 7:08pm

It’s actually not that strange at all. Happens with early commits.

Cougar76

2/7/19 7:27pm

By the way, every recruiting site agrees that Utah never offered him, and 247

Scratch

2/7/19 6:18pm

Absolutely wrong. Utah offered him. Link below

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:24pm

The pro-BYU website says it. None of the recruiting services say it. And the pay

Scratch

2/7/19 6:30pm

Websites often don’t list every offer. I’ve seen

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:35pm

That’s not a recruiting site. That’s a BYU blog.

Scratch

2/7/19 6:47pm

It’s an article. I posted a second one. You guys are getting ALL of your “widely

Cougar76

2/7/19 7:12pm

See my other post. Why offer Lake if they weren’t going to accept him?

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:25pm

There’s no one on the team by that name

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:16pm

This mentality MIGHT be part of the reason that some people have some animosity towards BYU.

whitey1980

2/7/19 6:56pm

BYU’s number one stumbling block right there^

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:28pm

Academics were not an issue with this kid.

kolt7

2/8/19 1:15pm

The coaches didn't recruit him very hard

donnerstag

2/7/19 8:44am

Significant academic isssues

2/7/19 9:01am

Academics 100% not the issue here.

kolt7

2/8/19 1:26pm

When I was a senior in high school I didn’t want to go to BYU.

PJMort

2/7/19 9:05am

Kids are affected by friends as much or more than by family

Fifty Shades of Blue

2/7/19 11:09am

I’m a BYU fan but as a recruit Utah is winning in all aspects of recruiting

Dpen123

2/7/19 9:13am

BYU landed a few players with Utah offers

donnerstag

2/7/19 9:54am

But, did Utah get more BYU commits?

Iki_Balam

2/7/19 9:59am

Utah and BYU had 8 kids signed with offers from both schools. Utah got 5

NarfUte

2/7/19 11:13am

Wasn't this one of the main factors in hiring Kalani - to bring back the

Iman23

2/7/19 9:13am

No. That was a fan assumption.

2/7/19 9:54am

yes. i thought that was going to clearn up but obviously that's not the case

cougfanz

2/7/19 12:19pm

Utah does a better job at recruiting and selling their program. For years BYU

Tonto

2/7/19 9:24am

Winning and Utah in the pac 12 is helping them a TON

1CougFan

2/7/19 11:02am

100%. Outside of the BYU experience from a football

Gathers

2/7/19 1:40pm

Why surprised? Utah clearly has a better football program.

Modiolus

2/7/19 9:47am

I can't speak to this kid specifically but rumor is three big time recruits

tawillin

2/7/19 9:51am

Khyiris Tonga cleared the NCAA clearinghouse by a hair and he was admitted

NarfUte

2/7/19 9:59am

Yep. Holmoe said as much in the recent interview.

Scratch

2/7/19 10:03am

Lol at how much you know/care about this.

mulletino

2/7/19 10:05am

You listen to BYU AD's interviews?

2/7/19 12:18pm

Cant belive I'm agreeing with a Ute, but this is true

Iki_Balam

2/7/19 10:06am

Not true. The coaches won't admit "any" player that qualifies

donnerstag

2/7/19 10:13am

Dayan Lake was a partial qualifier at byu... And Utah can take 2 male partial

NarfUte

2/7/19 10:26am

BYU's own administration governs BYU

donnerstag

2/7/19 10:31am

2 male, 2 female, 1 per sport is the NCAA bylaw

NarfUte

2/7/19 10:33am

That may be the case for non-qualifiers

donnerstag

2/7/19 10:37am

This is True and there was that story about the Tutor

1CougFan

2/7/19 11:11am

And the post above said a professor at BYU was essentially feeding test answers

Scratch

2/7/19 11:22am

Wow.. the bad info here is laughable.

TheLost

2/7/19 12:03pm

Exactly! But then they go right over to Utah and have

1CougFan

2/7/19 12:50pm

Utah has admission guidelines also... If Utah can take 2 non-qualifiers...

TheLost

2/7/19 12:09pm

You assumed when I said "academically could not make it " meant that they could

tawillin

2/7/19 10:16am

There are two sides to that coin though - there are certain kids who come to BYU

Machiavelli

2/7/19 10:08am

To heck with Mom's dreams, who cares? Kyle is my Daddy!!

CLCougar

2/7/19 10:16am

Happens. Move on.

Benfica1

2/7/19 11:06am

Out of state, mission-bound LDS kids is the only demographic BYU recruits well.

vagabonder

2/7/19 1:56pm

Wouldn't have minded if it wasn't Utah. Can never cheer for his success now

Resurgens

2/7/19 6:15pm

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