I can't speak to this kid specifically but rumor is three big time recruits

Feb 7, 2019
9:51:03am

tawillin Playmaker

wanted to come to BYU. They were Kalani's guys but academically could not make it in. All went to p5 programs.

It is hard to recruit at BYU.

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Losing out on this type of kid always surprises me

LifelongAP

2/7/19 8:29am

Beat Utah a few times and the issue should resolve itself, right?

letthewookiewin

2/7/19 8:35am

That's one piece of the puzzle but not all of it.

shakarocks

2/7/19 9:12am

Its a huge piece for a kid who wants to win his games.

(Private)

2/7/19 11:18am

What if kid can win games and play in a better conference?

shakarocks

2/7/19 11:28am

You thumbs downer folks make me laugh

shakarocks

2/7/19 2:07pm

I was just going to say the same thing, 100% BYU fan here but those who gave the

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:05pm

What is up with all the uu fans trolling on here. Weird.

Benfica1

2/8/19 11:14am

Why? He very clearly said it was his mom's dream school for him not his own.

mulletino

2/7/19 8:35am

We win with Moms and Dads all the time but then the kid wants to go somewhere el

BYU Grounds

2/7/19 3:31pm

Even though he's not coming to BYU, his head is in the right direction.

Jazzyturtle

2/7/19 8:36am

It's dirty, but Kyle scares them with the HC.

Left Shark Coug

2/7/19 8:36am

How is that dirty?

jlm252

2/7/19 8:38am

Because he is Satan making them feel unworthy obviously! He is Urban spawn.

Grit for Brains

2/7/19 8:40am

Hype your own school, don't tear down another for actually daring to have

Left Shark Coug

2/7/19 8:41am

OK. This is a great post!!

buckowens

2/8/19 9:20am

If a candid discussion about the HC is enough to sway a kid...

jlm252

2/8/19 10:06am

Because a Mormon who went there should know better.

DraperCoug22

2/7/19 8:45am

how can you scare a kid that has plans for a mission. seems he'd be fine.

Idahofallsblue

2/7/19 8:39am

Not all mission bound kids are living the Peter Priesthood life.

Left Shark Coug

2/7/19 8:43am

not that hard, pull out a few examples like Ula etc. you can't mess up even 1x

LEHI cougar

2/7/19 8:44am

I know this is what Utah tells recruits. But it's completely false. I have

Lance71

2/7/19 11:58am

Completely agree.

Benfica1

2/7/19 1:31pm

Do you work in the honor code office? (Sincere question)

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:07pm

My wife did.

Lance71

2/7/19 10:44pm

That's interesting. So as far as the cases involving consensual premarital sex

Coug Man in Florida

2/8/19 1:34pm

Specifics about individuals is totally inappropriate.

Lance71

2/8/19 2:50pm

What I have seen and heard (not specific to anyone) is....

Cougstreak

2/8/19 3:09pm

That's spot on to what I'm trying to ask because it has not seemed that

Coug Man in Florida

2/8/19 3:18pm

Not asking for THEIR specifics, just want to know SPECIFICS about the HC and

Coug Man in Florida

2/8/19 3:16pm

I have never seen a person get suspended for a first time offense no matter

Lance71

2/8/19 4:45pm

Gotcha. Thanks for the info! This is honestly the first time I've heard someone

Coug Man in Florida

2/8/19 5:25pm

Thats not true at all...

TheLost

2/7/19 8:43am

How many non-lds players got baptized at BYU this year?

TheLost

2/7/19 8:48am

Had no idea DHC got baptized. Very cool!

Demosthenes Red

2/8/19 7:47am

Outright lie.

RockyBalboa

2/7/19 9:39am

Problem is we don’t know all the inner workings...did he maintain academic

Give'emBerg

2/7/19 8:41am

Awesome.

Scratch

2/7/19 8:47am

Surprised it took 12 minutes

NarfUte

2/7/19 8:52am

Even as a Y fan, I'm sick of these pompous idiots always saying

ReggaeCoug

2/7/19 9:43am

Agreed and people don’t realize it is not that tough to get in as an...

Cougstreak

2/7/19 4:49pm

Whoa whoa whoa!

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:10pm

Come on, there couldn't possibly be any reason a recruit would pick

kos

2/7/19 10:13am

BYU makes pretty hefty academic exceptions for athletes

LifelongAP

2/7/19 9:07am

Is BYU still the one & only D1 school accepting academic nonqualifiers or

ALUF 1990

2/7/19 10:19am

To be fair, most conferences will allow very limited non-qualifiers, like 1 or 2

Scratch

2/7/19 10:42am

Can you provide one example of a recruit BYU offered that wouldn’t have been

Cougar76

2/7/19 5:40pm

Dayan Lake. And BYU's general admission standards are tougher, but not for

Scratch

2/7/19 5:44pm

Oh please. 4* Dayan Lake, #1 DB recruit in Utah. The utes who

Cougar76

2/7/19 5:54pm

He was a non-qualifier, so no, he wasn’t going to Utah. And he decommited from

Scratch

2/7/19 6:14pm

Lololol. The only thing missing is your “non-commutable offer” schpeel you guys

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:19pm

It’s widely reported that he decommitted from BYU and explored his options,

Scratch

2/7/19 6:28pm

I googled it. Any link other than utefans? I showed you a legitimate article

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:38pm

He decommitted, explores his options, never got an offer from Utah, and then

Scratch

2/7/19 6:45pm

If it was “all very public” then surely you could find one article supporting

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:58pm

RE: If it was “all very public” then surely you could find one

Scratch

2/7/19 7:06pm

So, “no”. That’s what I thought. You have absolutely

Cougar76

2/7/19 7:23pm

Except that Utah allows one prop 48 player in per season

donnerstag

2/7/19 6:25pm

For all men’s sports. Those spots are not just handed out, and most years the

Scratch

2/7/19 6:29pm

Football is king in athletic departments

donnerstag

2/7/19 6:54pm

That’s not what Utah does. Not sure if that’s a P12 thing or a Utah thing.

Scratch

2/7/19 7:07pm

And they offered him. These guys are delusional. If Dayan wanted to play at Utah

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:36pm

Nope. Can’t take non-qualifiers, except every few years they can take 1. There’s

Scratch

2/7/19 6:48pm

He was rated 4 stars and had several offers including utah. Here’s a 2nd article

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:54pm

Yeah, it’s strange how those BYU blogs are inconsistent with the national

Scratch

2/7/19 7:08pm

It’s actually not that strange at all. Happens with early commits.

Cougar76

2/7/19 7:27pm

By the way, every recruiting site agrees that Utah never offered him, and 247

Scratch

2/7/19 6:18pm

Absolutely wrong. Utah offered him. Link below

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:24pm

The pro-BYU website says it. None of the recruiting services say it. And the pay

Scratch

2/7/19 6:30pm

Websites often don’t list every offer. I’ve seen

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:35pm

That’s not a recruiting site. That’s a BYU blog.

Scratch

2/7/19 6:47pm

It’s an article. I posted a second one. You guys are getting ALL of your “widely

Cougar76

2/7/19 7:12pm

See my other post. Why offer Lake if they weren’t going to accept him?

Cougar76

2/7/19 6:25pm

There’s no one on the team by that name

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:16pm

This mentality MIGHT be part of the reason that some people have some animosity towards BYU.

whitey1980

2/7/19 6:56pm

BYU’s number one stumbling block right there^

Coug Man in Florida

2/7/19 10:28pm

Academics were not an issue with this kid.

kolt7

2/8/19 1:15pm

The coaches didn't recruit him very hard

donnerstag

2/7/19 8:44am

Significant academic isssues

PickleButton

2/7/19 9:01am

Academics 100% not the issue here.

kolt7

2/8/19 1:26pm

When I was a senior in high school I didn’t want to go to BYU.

PJMort

2/7/19 9:05am

Kids are affected by friends as much or more than by family

Fifty Shades of Blue

2/7/19 11:09am

I’m a BYU fan but as a recruit Utah is winning in all aspects of recruiting

Dpen123

2/7/19 9:13am

BYU landed a few players with Utah offers

donnerstag

2/7/19 9:54am

But, did Utah get more BYU commits?

Iki_Balam

2/7/19 9:59am

Utah and BYU had 8 kids signed with offers from both schools. Utah got 5

NarfUte

2/7/19 11:13am

Wasn't this one of the main factors in hiring Kalani - to bring back the

Iman23

2/7/19 9:13am

No. That was a fan assumption.

Lip Gallagher

2/7/19 9:54am

yes. i thought that was going to clearn up but obviously that's not the case

cougfanz

2/7/19 12:19pm

Utah does a better job at recruiting and selling their program. For years BYU

Tonto

2/7/19 9:24am

Winning and Utah in the pac 12 is helping them a TON

1CougFan

2/7/19 11:02am

100%. Outside of the BYU experience from a football

Gathers

2/7/19 1:40pm

Why surprised? Utah clearly has a better football program.

Modiolus

2/7/19 9:47am

I can't speak to this kid specifically but rumor is three big time recruits

tawillin

2/7/19 9:51am

Khyiris Tonga cleared the NCAA clearinghouse by a hair and he was admitted

NarfUte

2/7/19 9:59am

Yep. Holmoe said as much in the recent interview.

Scratch

2/7/19 10:03am

Lol at how much you know/care about this.

mulletino

2/7/19 10:05am

You listen to BYU AD's interviews?

BYUALWAYSNUM1

2/7/19 12:18pm

Cant belive I'm agreeing with a Ute, but this is true

Iki_Balam

2/7/19 10:06am

Not true. The coaches won't admit "any" player that qualifies

donnerstag

2/7/19 10:13am

Dayan Lake was a partial qualifier at byu... And Utah can take 2 male partial

NarfUte

2/7/19 10:26am

BYU's own administration governs BYU

donnerstag

2/7/19 10:31am

2 male, 2 female, 1 per sport is the NCAA bylaw

NarfUte

2/7/19 10:33am

That may be the case for non-qualifiers

donnerstag

2/7/19 10:37am

This is True and there was that story about the Tutor

1CougFan

2/7/19 11:11am

And the post above said a professor at BYU was essentially feeding test answers

Scratch

2/7/19 11:22am

Wow.. the bad info here is laughable.

TheLost

2/7/19 12:03pm

Exactly! But then they go right over to Utah and have

1CougFan

2/7/19 12:50pm

Utah has admission guidelines also... If Utah can take 2 non-qualifiers...

TheLost

2/7/19 12:09pm

You assumed when I said "academically could not make it " meant that they could

tawillin

2/7/19 10:16am

There are two sides to that coin though - there are certain kids who come to BYU

Machiavelli

2/7/19 10:08am

To heck with Mom's dreams, who cares? Kyle is my Daddy!!

CLCougar

2/7/19 10:16am

Happens. Move on.

Benfica1

2/7/19 11:06am

Out of state, mission-bound LDS kids is the only demographic BYU recruits well.

vagabonder

2/7/19 1:56pm

Wouldn't have minded if it wasn't Utah. Can never cheer for his success now

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