That it's really not debatable.

Crazy—really sorry for him.

LosAlcoug

2/15/19 9:51pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/15/19 9:51pm

Or, maybe you do not understand what they are looking for?

Supercoug

2/16/19 1:55pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/16/19 2:10pm

C'mon man. I know you're sore, but the result betrays your assertion. Why hate on the school just because criteria may

Supercoug

2/16/19 2:15pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/16/19 2:20pm

Then that makes two of us.

Supercoug

2/16/19 2:22pm

That's surprising. Sorry to hear. I suppose if that's really all he wants he

Goliath

2/15/19 9:52pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/15/19 9:55pm

Welcome to reality

chinngiskhaan

2/16/19 10:04am

Thewanderer.... comments?

kotacoug

2/15/19 9:53pm

I think BYU is not accepting some of these ultra top

kotacoug

2/15/19 9:55pm

That’s just silly. It makes mush more sense to take a 34 ACT than a 26

puntersarepeople

2/16/19 7:44am

Might be silly but it’s happening.

kotacoug

2/16/19 10:32am

Starting to become a joke. They need to expand the enrollment, or start

Richbyu

2/15/19 9:55pm

Seems to be a bit more of a lottery these days

Goliath

2/15/19 9:59pm

If it is, it would be honest for them to say that.

conetah

2/16/19 5:52am

They are expanding by 10%

garyfan

2/15/19 9:59pm

Where has that been said?

mudpupper

2/15/19 10:00pm

I’ve heard it first-hand from BYU admin I know

garyfan

2/15/19 10:03pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/15/19 10:01pm

If they treated BYU-Idaho like a real University, it would solve a lot...

Richbyu

2/15/19 10:06pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/15/19 10:08pm

Do that but establish it in Arizona. 👍🏻

kotacoug

2/15/19 10:21pm

That would be a bad idea.

Richbyu

2/15/19 10:26pm

Had they done this from the start, I’d agree 100%

cajuncoug

2/15/19 10:45pm

Tundra and no one lives there

AZcougLawyer

2/15/19 10:47pm

It would force all those addtl people to go to Rexburg

AZcougLawyer

2/15/19 10:52pm

Byu-i needs a dorm. That would be a huge improvement

Turd Ferguson

2/15/19 11:01pm

They don’t have a dorm? Weird, but

AZcougLawyer

2/15/19 11:04pm

I know an 18year old that was stuck with 23 and 24 year old rms

Turd Ferguson

2/15/19 11:06pm

No way. I did my freshman year at BYU-I

Schultz is back

2/16/19 8:23am

Build a high speed train to connect.... No never mind that's Cali

BYU Grounds

2/16/19 8:14am

I totally agree...but the present seems to be going the other way.

BYUHgrad

2/17/19 11:00am

Spot on regarding both BYU Idaho and BYU

cajuncoug

2/15/19 10:40pm

Pretty mind boggling. 34 ACT? That's genius level.

Scott_Tenorman

2/15/19 9:58pm

3.9 weighted or unweighted GPA?

unctoothman

2/15/19 10:09pm

His son got a 34 ACT

Richbyu

2/15/19 10:13pm

So do a boat load of applicants. A 34 with an unweighted 3.4 (not saying it

unctoothman

2/15/19 10:17pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/15/19 10:21pm

Wrong. Getting a 34 ACT puts you in the 99th percentile of test takers

Richbyu

2/15/19 10:22pm

I think the average ACT score is now around 30 isn’t it

kotacoug

2/15/19 10:24pm

And the difference between a 28 and 36 is the same percentile wise as a 20 and

unctoothman

2/15/19 10:29pm

Interesting. I never really examined it in that much detail. Just assumed

kotacoug

2/15/19 10:50pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/15/19 10:18pm

That's impressive, then like only one B in all of HS. Really rough break.

unctoothman

2/15/19 10:19pm

What a joke.

WizeGuise

2/15/19 10:24pm

Sounds like a mistake.

Dr MoBYU

2/15/19 10:41pm

The downside of "holistic" admissions. It's basically a lottery now.

fredgarvin

2/15/19 10:42pm

I can see why it would seem that way. But the people who take the time

Extra Biscuits

2/15/19 10:54pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/15/19 10:56pm

Get in line, but might be a good idea to call and ask what’s up.

Dr MoBYU

2/15/19 10:58pm

Actually yes, I think it’s worth following up.

Extra Biscuits

2/15/19 11:13pm

But I should clarify: I’ve heard of mistakes happening, but I can’t say how

Extra Biscuits

2/15/19 11:18pm

I agree

byu1

2/15/19 11:20pm

I do know someone who got in after following up

PROBcoug

2/16/19 9:27am

It is essentially a lottery. You’re gambling that the person who reads your

fredgarvin

2/15/19 11:32pm

it's not that they are randomly choosing between applicants...

The Shazad

2/16/19 4:51am

What state do you live in?

Bandersnatch

2/15/19 10:44pm

This--if you live out of the state of Utah, then that's really odd.

BringYourUltimate

2/16/19 6:47am

My buddy’s son got in with a 24 ACT and a 3.4 GPA. Never thought he’d get in.

Texas Hammer

2/15/19 10:44pm

This year?

AZcougLawyer

2/15/19 10:54pm

Yep, this year. And he’s as white as a piece of Wonder white bread.

Texas Hammer

2/16/19 6:11am

Friend’s son didn’t get in last yr w 4.0 and 36

TheLoanArranger

2/15/19 10:58pm

#Thathappened

TCuz

2/15/19 11:24pm

Well, fwiw, the U of C IS an amazing institution.

SouthernCoug

2/15/19 11:01pm

The U of Chicago is great.

Hoss Bonaventure

2/15/19 11:08pm

Much better than BYU

chinngiskhaan

2/16/19 10:13am

What kind of classes? Lots of AP?

ochobeeguy

2/15/19 11:08pm

This...I know that BYU puts far more weight on AP classes...

Adrielle

2/16/19 2:54pm

My wife has been worried about this for our daughter as well

byu1

2/15/19 11:08pm

She must be a genius!

conflictedcoug

2/15/19 11:09pm

Actually, you might be right. But never formally tested.

byu1

2/15/19 11:19pm

Bishops are no longer asked to comment on applicants

Reedme

2/16/19 10:20am

Wow. So admissions weights a seminary teachers input more than the bishops?

Orem58thBall

2/16/19 4:14pm

The bishop answers the question of whether or not the kid is worthy to attend.

dilbert

2/16/19 6:10pm

Seminary teachers should have a way better relationship with the kids.

ochobeeguy

2/16/19 8:42pm

Disagree. A bishop's priority is the youth.

Orem58thBall

2/17/19 1:07pm

Nor should bishops be asked to do anything more.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/16/19 8:53pm

Drama.

kccougar

2/15/19 11:12pm

I’d definitely Call and get more info...

byu1

2/15/19 11:16pm

Don’t know if this is true, but someone swore to me it was. They aren’t looking

vegasnative

2/15/19 11:26pm

Take heart, my white male son was also rejected with near identical scores

Wolvercougs

2/15/19 11:42pm

Admissions PSA

CougrrrEd

2/16/19 12:05am

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/16/19 12:08am

What makes you think being an eng professor qualifies you to assume his essays were good?

Supercoug

2/16/19 1:44pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/16/19 2:13pm

clearly.

Supercoug

2/16/19 2:15pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/16/19 2:20pm

I’m not. You’re asserting that a feature of your resume should create expertise, and I’m challenging that

Supercoug

2/16/19 2:25pm

Not that it matters but you’ve made really odd and frankly dumb arguments

Mrs Featerbottom

2/16/19 2:29pm

Not that it matters, but if you think that's the only explanation then you're unlikely to graduate out of senior

Supercoug

2/16/19 3:28pm

Shocker, more nonsense mixed with personal cheap shots

Mrs Featerbottom

2/16/19 5:56pm

Are you going to offer something substantive to this conversation or not?

Supercoug

2/16/19 7:48pm

nah, think this thread’s gone on long enough

Mrs Featerbottom

2/16/19 8:02pm

of course.

Supercoug

2/16/19 8:07pm

You are one weird dude (or lady).

Ernie

2/16/19 6:49pm

Hey I know SC IRL and you

TEXAS

2/16/19 8:17pm

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/16/19 2:34pm

English. Not engineering.

Orem58thBall

2/16/19 4:18pm

You must live in Utah

BYU Grounds

2/16/19 12:21am

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Hoss Bonaventure

2/16/19 12:25am

Where then?

CodeBlueCoug

2/16/19 12:47am

Back in the early 2000s, that would have qualified for a Hinckley scholarship.

ebv

2/16/19 12:42am

It's now common knowledge that it's functionally a lottery at this point.

ArchbishopMitty

2/16/19 1:06am

Personal Experiences:

Boomcannon

2/16/19 4:26am

Yeah, I transferred in after a year at Snow and a year at UVU.

dYrtbYkerYder

2/16/19 7:54am

Since your friends son ended up going, wasn’t it meant to be that he got in?

GSwarriorcoug

2/17/19 2:24pm

Had the same experience last year

CableGuy

2/16/19 8:19am

can you elaborate on the differences between the essays?

The Shazad

2/16/19 8:26am

Here you go

CableGuy

2/16/19 8:43am

I just listened to a podcast by Seth Godin on “How to get into a famous college”

Delicate Genius

2/16/19 3:04pm

What did you expect exactly? We are talking about BYU

chinngiskhaan

2/16/19 10:04am

That is God saying

chinngiskhaan

2/16/19 10:11am

Time to burn the place down and start over. Who’s with me?!?

StalwartBraveTrue

2/16/19 2:08pm

BYU should expand to 40-50k+. If kids like this aren’t getting in, they need

Triznaynay

2/16/19 2:29pm

Or, at the very least, improve BYU-I

Richbyu

2/16/19 3:02pm

Or open up the BYU Gilbert/Mesa Center

AZcougLawyer

2/16/19 3:53pm

Or all 3 of those options

ochobeeguy

2/16/19 3:59pm

Yes, but maybe wouldn’t need to expand enrollment in Provo if the AZ Center

AZcougLawyer

2/16/19 4:14pm

If there was ever an era when church leadership was going to make aggressive

Orem58thBall

2/16/19 5:25pm

Blessing in disguise. If he's really getting recruited by UChicago, then he should go there.

Virginia Ute

2/16/19 4:10pm

Disagree. Tuition at UofC is 10x what it is at BYU

Gustav

2/16/19 8:13pm

Agree on all counts.

Mrs Featerbottom

2/16/19 8:38pm

You can disagree all you want, doesn’t change the fact that UC is a better school.

Virginia Ute

2/17/19 3:20am

Everyone knows that, but the ROI on expensive undergrad programs is pretty low

Mrs Featerbottom

2/17/19 7:21am

All I’ve ever said is UC is a better school. Never said anything about the ROI.

Virginia Ute

2/17/19 11:11am

You said he should go to Chicago.

Mrs Featerbottom

2/17/19 12:07pm

I agree with you. Undergrad presitge doesn't really matter in most fields.

Virginia Ute

2/17/19 12:22pm

I agree but caveat “at the right price”

Mrs Featerbottom

2/17/19 12:41pm

And getting mailings doesnt mean much

Gustav

2/17/19 2:19pm

Yep

Mrs Featerbottom

2/17/19 2:22pm

Also, what do you think “everyone knows that” means?

Mrs Featerbottom

2/17/19 12:08pm

That it's really not debatable.

Virginia Ute

2/17/19 12:23pm

I didn’t read all your posts and background, so I could be totally going inthe

BYUHgrad

2/17/19 11:24am

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