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Feb 17, 2021
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Ash
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Point 1 is not true. Cincy got in. Even if we had dismantled CCU, we still
would have been kept out. That's the point of the system. The 2nd part of your point is right about this.
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BYU Sports Nation Lowers Bar for BYU Football
HepcatCougar
2/17/21 10:46am
So boiling it down, your problem is that Jarom is more in touch with reality than you are
Indy Coug
2/17/21 10:48am
You didn't read my whole post...
HepcatCougar
2/17/21 10:50am
Plenty of people have taken issue with Jarom's take (which is not a new one for
Tricky
2/17/21 2:27pm
It’s one thing to think I or even believe something a completely other thing to
Pretorian
2/17/21 1:12pm
Reality? Didn't BYU go undefeated once before? So why not expect it?
ImuaKahuku
2/17/21 1:36pm
When I was in 6th grade (1984-ish), I had to memorize the following:
tjngirlz
2/17/21 8:15pm
exactly. In HS a Tongan kid moved to Laie. He was running track and had great
ImuaKahuku
2/17/21 10:37pm
Jarom Jordan wants the BSU model for BYU. I do not like it. Play the best
Cougar TD
2/17/21 10:49am
So have you then thoroughly enjoyed all seasons of Indy?
TheLoneCougar
2/17/21 10:53am
More than most MWC seasons, yes. And I also think it was the obvious step forwar
Cougar TD
2/17/21 11:00am
There isn't a better option, but to tamper the schedule a bit more. I generally agree with JJs scheduling philosophy.
TheLoneCougar
2/17/21 11:03am
The hard part is how do you lay out the 3-4 P5 games? If they all come early
Cougar TD
2/17/21 11:08am
Start with whichever P5s will play you in October or November. Build from there.
Doogal McCougar
2/17/21 3:38pm
It didn't start like that, and it is not that easy. I am all for not starting
Cougar TD
2/17/21 3:45pm
Yes, but I like the TH mindset of thinking we are P5. If not, we’ll never be one
thegoodmeister
2/17/21 2:01pm
why play a P5 schedule without P5 recruits? If we win a lot for many years we
AFitisemanu
2/17/21 11:11am
We left the MWC for a reason, the program is building and improving. Why take
Cougar TD
2/17/21 11:13am
"If we win a lot for many years we get the P5 invite and then the P5 recruits"
Greg Kite's 'stache
2/17/21 11:41am
Our best option IMO is to first, keep playing as many P5 games as possible. Also
ManicBlue
2/17/21 12:33pm
They also do the opposite and make some outlandish statement that over hype
sandtrapcougar
2/17/21 10:49am
The problem with Jarom’s take on this is he’s too young to remember the National
gwalker
2/17/21 10:50am
Yes, yes it is way more improbable today.
TheLoneCougar
2/17/21 10:54am
I don’t think so. It didn’t even cross anyone’s mind to consider it a
gwalker
2/17/21 10:57am
I'm just saying today it is absolutely impossible. You saw what the committee did to BYU, UC, and CCU and then UCF a few
TheLoneCougar
2/17/21 11:05am
The structure then was at least more wide-open to allow it
krindorr
2/17/21 11:19am
I think it's substantially more improbable today, due to the advent of the CFP system.
Indy Coug
2/17/21 11:03am
How many P5s did we play the year we won the Natty?
Junior Deputy
2/17/21 11:20am
Pitt, Baylor, Michigan. Not sure if there were others.
fulano
2/17/21 11:29am
So... three, maybe four. And then we beat the yewt out of a bunch of WAC teams.
Junior Deputy
2/17/21 12:27pm
I'm all about going to the AAC
krindorr
2/17/21 12:39pm
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thegoodmeister
2/17/21 2:09pm
The P5 distinction wasn’t a thing then. Some of the strongest programs
gwalker
2/17/21 11:50am
The powers that be drastically changed things after 1984 to ensure teams like
Soy Celeste
2/17/21 12:46pm
Yes it was; changes were made since 1984 to prevent something like BYU happening
reddead
2/17/21 1:09pm
JJ’s views are at odds with those of TH,
Everyman
2/17/21 10:51am
maybe you missed the news about 2023 schedule now being filled with just 4 P5
cwilke1
2/17/21 10:57am
I believe that TH scheduled as many P5s as he could.
Everyman
2/17/21 11:06am
I guess if your message had an implied requirement that a deal with a P5 has to
cwilke1
2/17/21 11:12am
Jarom wants wins, TH has to pay the bills.
mudpupper
2/17/21 11:54am
That’s why TH is AD and JJ is a talking head making 5 year old Pitta jokes
thegoodmeister
2/17/21 2:12pm
JJ is good at what he does. Glad BYU has him.
Soy Celeste
2/17/21 2:23pm
JJ is there to represent the voice of the unathletic, beta fanboys who have never competed at a level above rec league.
Turnpike Lane
2/17/21 11:23am
I think it's about incremental steps
krindorr
2/17/21 11:28am
and let's be honest 95% of CFB is not at a championship level right now
ManicBlue
2/17/21 12:34pm
Very true. There's about 10 teams in play each year
krindorr
2/17/21 12:43pm
RE: BYU Sports Nation Lowers Bar for BYU Football
mattpatt
2/17/21 11:39am
I quite like Dpencer’s role and takes. He’s. Much more professional.
thegoodmeister
2/17/21 2:16pm
it's an opinion show, why not let him have his own opinions?
bald man
2/17/21 11:56am
Never been a fan of his takes or his antics on the show (such as blue goggles),
OldFogey
2/17/21 11:58am
Amen
thegoodmeister
2/17/21 2:18pm
a 10 win season probably won't have them ranked at the end of the season..
ordinary tri guy
2/17/21 12:24pm
no one would say that about byu basketball
lukeskywalker
2/17/21 12:35pm
Jarom says the 2020 season proves his theory on scheduling: Essentially
JoeMamaBesser
2/17/21 12:57pm
2020 was an outlier, and BYU only got that credit because P5s wouldn't play them. In other years, that isn't the case.
Turnpike Lane
2/17/21 1:53pm
I agree, this season 's result was crafted more by COVID than BYU's schedule.
cosmohio
2/17/21 2:22pm
I don't know how anyone can argue that he is wrong. The only counter is that
Ash
2/17/21 2:47pm
I was also taken aback by the conviction with which he said "never" an NY6.
byujdmba
2/17/21 2:07pm
RE: I was also taken aback by the conviction with which he said "never" an NY6.
HepcatCougar
2/18/21 12:54pm
Jarom is the "bad cop" in the BYUSN model. He gets paid to be devil's advocate.
cosmohio
2/17/21 2:11pm
Has anything BYU football has done in
Yergensen
2/17/21 2:48pm
*psst Jarom is right.*
Ham
2/17/21 2:51pm
BYU should play an old WAC schedule. This season is the proof. Cracked the top
DoseOfReality
2/17/21 3:43pm
Slight exaggeration, but agree with the idea
krindorr
2/17/21 3:53pm
BYU wouldn't have gotten as much respect in a normal year. Only did because of
ManicBlue
2/17/21 4:37pm
The argument that Jarom incisively makes get old, Tom H. Goal is to get us over
Beetdiggercoug
2/17/21 4:45pm
RE: The argument that Jarom incisively makes get old, Tom H. Goal is to get us
DocIzzy
2/17/21 7:31pm
This is Kyle Whittinghams pitch when going head to head recruiting
BYU DUDE 1984
2/17/21 5:22pm
Lots of us agree with JJ's assessment, including many notable boosters and...
bluefish
2/17/21 5:35pm
Please provide the names of those boosters. Frankly, who cares what J. Buck
Northern Blue
2/17/21 7:49pm
Most people here know my feelings about BYU Employees depreciating...
LEDSFW
2/17/21 6:11pm
There's a fine line; don't want blatant homerism either
krindorr
2/17/21 6:25pm
It doesn't have to be blatant homerism but optimistic would be nice.
ManicBlue
2/17/21 8:23pm
Point 1 is not true. Cincy got in. Even if we had dismantled CCU, we still
Ash
2/17/21 8:28pm
Not from what I have heard...
LEDSFW
2/18/21 9:22pm
What would have happened BYU and Cincy in the NY6. Who gets left out and why
Ash
2/18/21 10:00pm
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