5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

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Jun 2, 2023
3:47:18pm

canofpicante All-American

5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

1. TV ratings. If you have any other overall TV rankings, please post them. Single games aren’t helpful (too small a sample size) at least full seasons please.

Which college football programs were the most-watched in 2022? | by Zach Miller | Run It Back With Zach | Medium

Another college football regular season is in the books, so we have another year’s worth of TV viewership data to dig into. Below, I’ve listed each school’s average game viewership for the regular…

https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach/which-college-football-programs-were-the-most-watched-in-2022-94eca4f6acbd

2.
Utah has been better at football than any of the 4-Corner Schools for over 20 years.

2000-2009 Final Football Polls

AP College Football Poll, Rankings: 2000 to 2009 Final Top 25

AP Poll, Rankings 2000s: What are the greatest college football programs of all-time based on the AP poll final rankings?

https://news.yahoo.com/ap-college-football-poll-rankings-215755542.html

2010-2019 Final Football Polls

AP College Football Poll, Rankings: 2010 to 2019 Final Top 25

AP Poll, Rankings 2010s: What are the greatest college football programs of all-time based on the AP poll final rankings?

https://sports.yahoo.com/ap-college-football-poll-rankings-215803264.html

2020-Present Final Football Polls

AP College Football Poll, Rankings: 2020 to 2022 Final Top 25

AP Poll, Rankings 2020s: What are the greatest college football programs of all-time based on the AP poll final rankings?

https://www.yahoo.com/now/ap-college-football-poll-rankings-215809998.html

3.
Utah is AAU school. One of only 65. It is a fact.

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AAU includes 65 distinguished public and private research universities dedicated to improving human life through education, research, and discovery.

https://www.aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members

Utah is as good as the others the B12 is considering. Only Colorado is ranked better.

Colorado 97
Utah 105
Arizona 105
Arizona State 121

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

4.
Utah has better attendance, fan engagement, than any of the 4-corner teams.

collegefootballnews.com

https://collegefootballnews.com/.amp/rankings/college-football-attendance-rankings-2023-five-year-program-analysis

5.
Utah is an excellent geographic fit for the Big12. It’s less than an hour from BYU. Its state is literally touching the other schools’ states being considered. It’s a short ~90-minute flight to Denver or Phoenix

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5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

canofpicante

6/2/23 3:47pm

RE: 5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

TNT

6/2/23 3:48pm

RE: 5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

6/2/23 3:49pm

TV ratings... Utah has benefitted from big games, but I'm not certain they drive

Preppy

6/2/23 3:51pm

I’m happy to look at whatever numbers you have that show long term TV numbers.

canofpicante

6/2/23 3:58pm

Look at any game, not against UCLA, USC or Oregon

travelcoug

6/2/23 4:04pm

I can find games that make any team look good and ones that make them look bad

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:19pm

Or not the rosebowl. I mean, congrats getting there...but the rating for the

Preppy

6/2/23 4:31pm

There's some truth to this ... But the comparison is against Colorado, Arizona, ASU who have that same advantage

krindorr

6/2/23 4:17pm

It's fascinating. The BYU mindset is something like this

TFL

6/2/23 7:14pm

The problem with the ute mindset is that you think

ManicBlue

6/2/23 8:13pm

Lol. To draw a national audience, both teams have to be competitive. IN 2019, Utah was the main draw

TFL

6/2/23 8:57pm

Again with the overinflated sense of self worth. smh

ManicBlue

6/2/23 9:50pm

Eh, I definitely think USC, Oregon, Florida etc are the heavy lifters there but Utah contributes some

krindorr

6/2/23 9:57pm

The utes big numbers come from the CCG and bowl games. I stand by ANY p12 team in their place.

ManicBlue

6/2/23 10:02pm

The numbers cited don't include bowl games and CCGs though and Utah is ahead of Arizona, ASU, Colorado w same schedules

krindorr

6/3/23 10:04am

RE: The numbers cited don't include bowl games and CCGs though and Utah is ahead of Arizona, ASU, Colorado w same

ManicBlue

6/3/23 10:05am

Sorry I meant the number that OP cited, not other numbers

krindorr

6/3/23 10:21am

RE: Sorry I meant the number that OP cited, not other numbers

ManicBlue

6/3/23 10:31am

Gotcha. I completely agree CCGs and bowl games are not evidence of Utah's drawing power

krindorr

6/3/23 11:03am

The large viewership draws for 2019 Ore-Utah / 2021 Ore-Utah / 2022 Utah-USC that all set west coast records

TFL

6/3/23 12:59pm

That's not true at all. If they artificially put a 1-11 CU team or even a 7-4 BYU — both would've been

TFL

6/2/23 10:54pm

Stupid scenario since neither would have been in the CCG or Rose Bowl duh

ManicBlue

6/2/23 11:10pm

I don't follow. In your example you say replace any P12 team with Utah and they'd have the same audience

TFL

6/3/23 12:21am

Smh ... I'm sorry you have a hard time grasping the concept. IF, for instance, Oregon had taken care of

ManicBlue

6/3/23 9:27am

Except the numbers cited are regular season only

krindorr

6/3/23 9:49am

Really? USC-utah drew 6 million viewers for a regular season game? Yeah not hardly.

ManicBlue

6/3/23 9:58am

Um, yeah, you just said the same point I made in the prev post. Oregon or UW would've drawn higher. That's the typical

TFL

6/3/23 1:08pm

canofpicante+utahfootballgm+bookofdaniel+cheese fries=

Team Chaos

6/2/23 3:51pm

Lots of bad takes followed by lots of thumbs down on the replies.

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 4:08pm

You’re upset. You know, you don’t have to read my stuff. But I know how much

canofpicante

6/3/23 7:49am

Narrator: He said wistfully...

panacablue

6/2/23 3:52pm

Answers

LSUcougar92

6/2/23 3:57pm

Answers to answers.

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:17pm

Further to #1

panacablue

6/2/23 4:19pm

Hahahah, you’re making emotional arguments which means you are

travelcoug

6/2/23 4:22pm

My op is chock full of data for every point. Check it out. Seriously, if you

canofpicante

6/2/23 5:02pm

Are we sure you're not a ute?

ManicBlue

6/2/23 4:26pm

You can’t be sure of anything on here. You’ve got a over a decade of my history

canofpicante

6/3/23 9:37am

As BYU learned a few times, fair's got nothing to do with it.

6/2/23 3:57pm

We were left out for religious reasons and we all know it. Utah doesn’t have the

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:22pm

won't be denied what? Big12 invite? They offer little to the Big12.

Avery

6/2/23 3:59pm

Yes. B12 invite.

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:22pm

Yewt desperation starting to peak.

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 4:06pm

I did it for you😘😘

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:24pm

Weird, cuz in the past you did it to be taken more seriously. Ironically.

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 4:38pm

RE: 5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

6/2/23 4:08pm

All true. Counterpoints:

Doogal McCougar

6/2/23 4:13pm

Additional counterpoint to #3: UC Riverside

panacablue

6/2/23 4:18pm

In addition, Big 12 values basketball not schools that curtain off half their arena.

ManicBlue

6/2/23 4:29pm

In addition, I believe taxpayer money goes into operating revenue.

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 4:42pm

5 Reasons why those reasons don't mean anything for Big12 expansion

NOCAL_YFAN

6/2/23 4:15pm

I’d love to see any numbers you have for your statements

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:26pm

Reason why they won't: #1. Yewt fans suck, and now all of the Big12 knows it.

runnincoug

6/2/23 4:26pm

Best argument made on this post 😂.

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:30pm

RE: Best argument made on this post 😂.

panacablue

6/2/23 4:38pm

Fooling anyone? Is it possible to be a die-hard coug and still be man enough to

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:52pm

RE: Fooling anyone? Is it possible to be a die-hard coug and still be man enough

panacablue

6/2/23 4:54pm

Funny how questioning the blue-googles makes people so insecure they question

canofpicante

6/3/23 9:59am

Spoken like a true ute.

ManicBlue

6/2/23 4:55pm

You asked for reasons how to keep them out. I propose: let them tweet even more

runnincoug

6/2/23 4:42pm

Weird that you're ignoring so many of Yormark's stated criteria, especially the

Abe Froman

6/2/23 4:43pm

Yormark's criteria

ManicBlue

6/2/23 4:54pm

Good take. Hadn’t heard that. That’s the thing. Did he break it down how he’d

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:58pm

Remember, this CB...so they hand pick...here's one of Yormark's quotes on candidates — "national recognition"

TFL

6/2/23 7:05pm

Wait..you're saying utah is big bball appeal? How come ute fans don't know this?

runnincoug

6/2/23 9:36pm

He also seems to think the utes are in the 4th time zone. ute logic at work again. smh

ManicBlue

6/2/23 9:51pm

Yep. Utes have 2 elite 8s, a final four win and 5 sweet 16s since ASU or Arizona's last Rose Bowl or CU's

TFL

6/2/23 11:00pm

Comparing basketball to football results? apples and oranges hahahahaha

ManicBlue

6/2/23 11:11pm

My main point, which you seemed to miss, is that Ute fans don't even like Ute bb

runnincoug

6/2/23 11:54pm

I got it. It's a great point. But in their quest to only post Yormark's requirements that don't fit Utah they skip

TFL

6/3/23 12:29am

I'm pretty sure additive means they would bring in more revenue than they would

ptcougr

6/2/23 7:42pm

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