Weird that you're ignoring so many of Yormark's stated criteria, especially the

Jun 2, 2023
4:43:03pm

Abe Froman All-American

two biggest drivers of money: Whether or not a new school is Additive and gets the Big12 into New Markets. Utah does neither.

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5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

canofpicante

6/2/23 3:47pm

RE: 5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

TNT

6/2/23 3:48pm

RE: 5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

Mexicougazul

6/2/23 3:49pm

TV ratings... Utah has benefitted from big games, but I'm not certain they drive

Preppy

6/2/23 3:51pm

I’m happy to look at whatever numbers you have that show long term TV numbers.

canofpicante

6/2/23 3:58pm

Look at any game, not against UCLA, USC or Oregon

travelcoug

6/2/23 4:04pm

I can find games that make any team look good and ones that make them look bad

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:19pm

Or not the rosebowl. I mean, congrats getting there...but the rating for the

Preppy

6/2/23 4:31pm

There's some truth to this ... But the comparison is against Colorado, Arizona, ASU who have that same advantage

krindorr

6/2/23 4:17pm

It's fascinating. The BYU mindset is something like this

TFL

6/2/23 7:14pm

The problem with the ute mindset is that you think

ManicBlue

6/2/23 8:13pm

Lol. To draw a national audience, both teams have to be competitive. IN 2019, Utah was the main draw

TFL

6/2/23 8:57pm

Again with the overinflated sense of self worth. smh

ManicBlue

6/2/23 9:50pm

Eh, I definitely think USC, Oregon, Florida etc are the heavy lifters there but Utah contributes some

krindorr

6/2/23 9:57pm

The utes big numbers come from the CCG and bowl games. I stand by ANY p12 team in their place.

ManicBlue

6/2/23 10:02pm

The numbers cited don't include bowl games and CCGs though and Utah is ahead of Arizona, ASU, Colorado w same schedules

krindorr

6/3/23 10:04am

RE: The numbers cited don't include bowl games and CCGs though and Utah is ahead of Arizona, ASU, Colorado w same

ManicBlue

6/3/23 10:05am

Sorry I meant the number that OP cited, not other numbers

krindorr

6/3/23 10:21am

RE: Sorry I meant the number that OP cited, not other numbers

ManicBlue

6/3/23 10:31am

Gotcha. I completely agree CCGs and bowl games are not evidence of Utah's drawing power

krindorr

6/3/23 11:03am

The large viewership draws for 2019 Ore-Utah / 2021 Ore-Utah / 2022 Utah-USC that all set west coast records

TFL

6/3/23 12:59pm

That's not true at all. If they artificially put a 1-11 CU team or even a 7-4 BYU — both would've been

TFL

6/2/23 10:54pm

Stupid scenario since neither would have been in the CCG or Rose Bowl duh

ManicBlue

6/2/23 11:10pm

I don't follow. In your example you say replace any P12 team with Utah and they'd have the same audience

TFL

6/3/23 12:21am

Smh ... I'm sorry you have a hard time grasping the concept. IF, for instance, Oregon had taken care of

ManicBlue

6/3/23 9:27am

Except the numbers cited are regular season only

krindorr

6/3/23 9:49am

Really? USC-utah drew 6 million viewers for a regular season game? Yeah not hardly.

ManicBlue

6/3/23 9:58am

Um, yeah, you just said the same point I made in the prev post. Oregon or UW would've drawn higher. That's the typical

TFL

6/3/23 1:08pm

canofpicante+utahfootballgm+bookofdaniel+cheese fries=

Team Chaos

6/2/23 3:51pm

Lots of bad takes followed by lots of thumbs down on the replies.

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 4:08pm

You’re upset. You know, you don’t have to read my stuff. But I know how much

canofpicante

6/3/23 7:49am

Narrator: He said wistfully...

panacablue

6/2/23 3:52pm

Answers

LSUcougar92

6/2/23 3:57pm

Answers to answers.

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:17pm

Further to #1

panacablue

6/2/23 4:19pm

Hahahah, you’re making emotional arguments which means you are

travelcoug

6/2/23 4:22pm

My op is chock full of data for every point. Check it out. Seriously, if you

canofpicante

6/2/23 5:02pm

Are we sure you're not a ute?

ManicBlue

6/2/23 4:26pm

You can’t be sure of anything on here. You’ve got a over a decade of my history

canofpicante

6/3/23 9:37am

As BYU learned a few times, fair's got nothing to do with it.

Art Director

6/2/23 3:57pm

We were left out for religious reasons and we all know it. Utah doesn’t have the

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:22pm

won't be denied what? Big12 invite? They offer little to the Big12.

Avery

6/2/23 3:59pm

Yes. B12 invite.

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:22pm

Yewt desperation starting to peak.

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 4:06pm

I did it for you😘😘

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:24pm

Weird, cuz in the past you did it to be taken more seriously. Ironically.

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 4:38pm

RE: 5 REASONS UTAH WON’T BE DENIED (Even though I wish they would be)

Texas Hammer

6/2/23 4:08pm

All true. Counterpoints:

Doogal McCougar

6/2/23 4:13pm

Additional counterpoint to #3: UC Riverside

panacablue

6/2/23 4:18pm

In addition, Big 12 values basketball not schools that curtain off half their arena.

ManicBlue

6/2/23 4:29pm

In addition, I believe taxpayer money goes into operating revenue.

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 4:42pm

5 Reasons why those reasons don't mean anything for Big12 expansion

NOCAL_YFAN

6/2/23 4:15pm

I’d love to see any numbers you have for your statements

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:26pm

Reason why they won't: #1. Yewt fans suck, and now all of the Big12 knows it.

runnincoug

6/2/23 4:26pm

Best argument made on this post 😂.

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:30pm

RE: Best argument made on this post 😂.

panacablue

6/2/23 4:38pm

Fooling anyone? Is it possible to be a die-hard coug and still be man enough to

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:52pm

RE: Fooling anyone? Is it possible to be a die-hard coug and still be man enough

panacablue

6/2/23 4:54pm

Funny how questioning the blue-googles makes people so insecure they question

canofpicante

6/3/23 9:59am

Spoken like a true ute.

ManicBlue

6/2/23 4:55pm

You asked for reasons how to keep them out. I propose: let them tweet even more

runnincoug

6/2/23 4:42pm

Weird that you're ignoring so many of Yormark's stated criteria, especially the

Abe Froman

6/2/23 4:43pm

Yormark's criteria

ManicBlue

6/2/23 4:54pm

Good take. Hadn’t heard that. That’s the thing. Did he break it down how he’d

canofpicante

6/2/23 4:58pm

Remember, this CB...so they hand pick...here's one of Yormark's quotes on candidates — "national recognition"

TFL

6/2/23 7:05pm

Wait..you're saying utah is big bball appeal? How come ute fans don't know this?

runnincoug

6/2/23 9:36pm

He also seems to think the utes are in the 4th time zone. ute logic at work again. smh

ManicBlue

6/2/23 9:51pm

Yep. Utes have 2 elite 8s, a final four win and 5 sweet 16s since ASU or Arizona's last Rose Bowl or CU's

TFL

6/2/23 11:00pm

Comparing basketball to football results? apples and oranges hahahahaha

ManicBlue

6/2/23 11:11pm

My main point, which you seemed to miss, is that Ute fans don't even like Ute bb

runnincoug

6/2/23 11:54pm

I got it. It's a great point. But in their quest to only post Yormark's requirements that don't fit Utah they skip

TFL

6/3/23 12:29am

I'm pretty sure additive means they would bring in more revenue than they would

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