And made things 10x worse by doing so.

Appreciate the vagueness, but if the kid wanted a spot and had the talent, why

byujacob

1/26/15 11:04am

RE: Appreciate the vagueness, but if the kid wanted a spot and had the talent,

unctoothman

1/26/15 11:10am

Maybe it's less "he's not a BYU guy" and more that they're convinced he's not

SoCalCoug

1/26/15 11:31am

Did anyone really believe Kearsley was going to make it 4 years at BYU?

Ebolarama

1/26/15 11:46am

Did they at least explain to him what their concerns were, and try to work with

Polecat

1/26/15 11:06am

Yes, despite Gustin's family running around to every messageboard and radio

kccougar

1/26/15 11:08am

Which probably killed any chance that Bronco would work with Porter.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 1:21pm

I'm sure he and his father know exactly what's up

dryflyelk

1/26/15 11:08am

His dad came on CB and played dumb.

Real Men Wear Blue

1/26/15 11:12am

And made things 10x worse by doing so.

kccougar

1/26/15 11:13am

Exactly correct

cornellcoug

1/26/15 11:39am

teach at a HS in Utah County and am friends with several teachers at SHHS

deckard667

1/26/15 12:36pm

can verify this through my connection to salem

ParalegalGeneral

1/26/15 3:19pm

RE: can verify this through my connection to salem

utblue

1/30/15 10:14am

more lies

Salem

1/30/15 3:42pm

I like how BYU was resolute and never waivered on this

BigYfan

1/26/15 11:07am

I wish whatever he did that turned off BYU never happened, because he looks like

NacoCoug

1/26/15 11:34am

Without knowing what's going on it's hard to say BYU was resolute. They might

ArcticKat

1/26/15 3:53pm

Ask yourself this

BigYfan

1/26/15 6:43pm

Let's hope that's the case. I don't think it is but we can hope.

ArcticKat

1/26/15 7:17pm

I know this is CB...

PolarisPrime

1/31/15 2:19am

Give us some examples of what never should be overlooked by BYU

donnerstag

1/26/15 11:09am

I am not implying anything here

BigYfan

1/26/15 11:14am

true, but why is BYU harsher than a mission?

thebruce

1/26/15 11:19am

They're committing a four-year scholarship to the kid

SoCalCoug

1/26/15 11:33am

Its not.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 1:29pm

yeah better to play it safe and give it to a slow guy named

thebruce

1/26/15 2:38pm

Signed Gary Crowton's DB recruits.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 4:00pm

my posts are geared more toward the HC office than the coaches.

thebruce

1/26/15 4:14pm

His mom and dad are both returned missionaries and Div I athletes. I can't

Alcova

1/26/15 3:40pm

I can imagine a lot of posibilities.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 3:59pm

That's ridiculous. Yes you are implying something.

Bluforever

1/26/15 11:37am

He's not claiming to know anything about Gustin at all.

CalGTR

1/26/15 11:43am

And he is 100% accurate in his statment.

Ebolarama

1/26/15 11:47am

If he actually goes on a mission. This whole thing will be revisited after.

Lance71

1/26/15 11:17am

And he may have a change of heart on the mission

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 1:29pm

For those of us without any inside information on it, this situation always

AF Cougar

1/26/15 11:38am

apparently it's southern utah county's secret. I have no idea either.

Bluforever

1/26/15 11:41am

I think BYU has been all class in this situation

cougarnw

1/26/15 11:51am

That would have been an NCAA violation

concolor couguar

1/26/15 1:15pm

Kids talk

Ebolarama

1/26/15 1:22pm

As do boosters

concolor couguar

1/26/15 1:24pm

You dont need inside information.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 1:35pm

Off field issues that do not need to be shared publicly

cornellcoug

1/26/15 11:42am

1 kid with some off the field issues and a helicopter dad

Turnpike Lane

1/26/15 11:10am

Some of the "legacy" recruits

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 1:36pm

You're signature pic is great, IMO

ZooBlue

1/26/15 3:13pm

good to know BYU is only for perfect people. (I kid mostly)

thebruce

1/26/15 11:18am

There's imperfect and then there's slapping people in the face with your

SoCalCoug

1/26/15 11:25am

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couldge

1/26/15 12:26pm

I don't know a whole lot about the Porter situation. But, all of those examples

Lance71

1/26/15 11:26am

Absolutely false

Salem

1/30/15 12:05pm

I think the discussion was spurred by Porter's father going on the radio

donnerstag

1/30/15 12:12pm

Actually, I don't think the examples you outlined in your post actually help

Epileptic Beagle

1/26/15 11:52am

His father has certainly been a huge pain.

Ebolarama

1/26/15 11:56am

maybe i'm missing something but why has his dad been a huge pain?

thebruce

1/26/15 2:34pm

I was about to write this same thing

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 1:39pm

I think people are disappointed, no matter who is to blame.

CosmoK

1/26/15 11:40am

Yep

NacoCoug

1/26/15 11:44am

Oh come on now. Van Noy had some issues coming in and the coaches worked

TolerancePlease

1/26/15 11:42am

Yes, it was of a different nature

cornellcoug

1/26/15 11:42am

Maybe similar conditions were placed and Porter refused

WhiteKnight

1/26/15 12:18pm

Very good point. The onus would be on the kid to "do the work" as stipulated

TolerancePlease

1/26/15 12:33pm

I know nothing about the situation, but maybe the difference is attitude?

bretonnia

1/26/15 2:10pm

Don't agree.

Jeffe

1/26/15 12:13pm

RE: "Deserving" what he gets here on CB...

kccougar

1/26/15 12:26pm

RE: Nope! not true

Salem

1/30/15 12:21pm

And if they gave him a second chance and he didn't want to take it?

ol' Blue Eyes

1/26/15 1:46pm

Unless he is a literal verified disiple of Jeffrey Dahmer, I don't understand

TeeKaa

1/26/15 12:16pm

My thoughts exactly.

Jeffe

1/26/15 1:06pm

I was told earlier that people don't attack Bronco's character.

Lance71

1/26/15 1:10pm

RE: I was told earlier that people don't attack Bronco's character.

Jeffe

1/26/15 1:17pm

So you disagree with the way he recruits. That still doesn't mean he is

Lance71

1/26/15 1:31pm

RE: So you disagree with the way he recruits. That still doesn't mean he is

Jeffe

1/26/15 2:02pm

I asked this question quite a few times on CB. you're the first person to

Lance71

1/26/15 2:22pm

RE: I asked this question quite a few times on CB. you're the first person to

Jeffe

1/26/15 3:39pm

Good point. And the judgment / attack seems rendered…

ZooBlue

1/26/15 3:21pm

LOL. Priceless.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 1:45pm

really the only thing I take issue with in your post is that

thebruce

1/26/15 4:21pm

And that's what makes me laugh the most

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 5:00pm

bronco is a combination of arrogant, prideful, and stubborn.

thebruce

1/26/15 7:22pm

No, he is the coach.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 9:52pm

you are so full of it dude.

thebruce

1/26/15 9:57pm

I'm still waiting for all these examples of arrogance and pride. Nobody has

Lance71

1/26/15 10:02pm

If you haven't seen the obvious examples during his career

thebruce

1/26/15 10:09pm

Claiming I'm a wack job is not a good example of Bronco's arrogance and pride.

Lance71

1/26/15 10:31pm

becauseits a waste of time arguing with people that are

thebruce

1/26/15 10:36pm

The problem is...

PolarisPrime

1/28/15 10:37pm

This from someone who knows nothing about the Gustin situation....

coot20

1/26/15 3:39pm

I think someone important to BYU likely had a relative involved in what happened

concolor couguar

1/26/15 1:13pm

Someone really connected in Utah maybe.

concolor couguar

1/26/15 1:26pm

That is a very interesting point also. Something obviously is going on with him.

Ebolarama

1/26/15 1:31pm

It is interesting to me that for all his suposed greatness

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 1:49pm

Bret Beilema flew to Provo just to do an in home visit with Gustin

concolor couguar

1/26/15 1:55pm

I am not intimating that at all.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 2:01pm

If Arkansas wants him what chance does Toledo have?

concolor couguar

1/26/15 2:21pm

None obvoiusly. Even less likley with OSU offering

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 2:28pm

Using supposed greatness made me think you were questioning if he was good

concolor couguar

1/26/15 2:26pm

That was more of a comment about his future

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 2:33pm

Hes saying there is something that the local schools know about.

Ebolarama

1/26/15 2:20pm

He appears to be saying there is something that is keeping the small schools in

concolor couguar

1/26/15 2:23pm

After a re read thats what he meant. My bad. But don't you think a 5 star

Ebolarama

1/26/15 2:31pm

No, you were correct the first time.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 2:38pm

Why does this bother the local schools and not the others is what I am getting

concolor couguar

1/26/15 2:41pm

Maybe those outside the state aren't privy to as much info? Maybe they are more

Ebolarama

1/26/15 2:44pm

More willing to bend on certain things than BYU? for sure

concolor couguar

1/26/15 3:16pm

It may be more that the Utah schools have more insider info

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 2:44pm

He got offered by Utah and went on a trip there to see the facilities.

thebruce

1/26/15 2:31pm

He has not made an official visit to Utah

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 2:41pm

his dad said on 1280 that they visited Utah's facilites.

thebruce

1/26/15 4:25pm

Despite all the rumors he's apparently going to be accepted at a D-1 university,

ArcticKat

1/26/15 1:14pm

Annnnnd BOOM! Goes the dynamite.

Gerald-DeGroot

1/27/15 4:16am

I've been critical of being late on Empey but in this instance he's right

RockyBalboa

1/26/15 1:02pm

BYU overlooked the same action by an RM transfer

concolor couguar

1/26/15 1:11pm

Signed Harvey Unga and Kyle Van Noy.

UneducatedFan

1/26/15 2:42pm

Same thing was said about KVN... Brandon Davies...

Smoke Monster

1/26/15 3:29pm

it is ridiculous. And it makes us look like massive hypocrites.

thebruce

1/26/15 4:08pm

Ummm......

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 4:17pm

ummm I agree with you.

thebruce

1/26/15 4:28pm

Well, people may think that

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 5:06pm

a lot of fans are ignorant.

thebruce

1/26/15 5:15pm

LOL. Talk about freaking out about something that is not true at all.

PolarisPrime

1/26/15 4:18pm

I know for a fact that this post is hogwash.

JamesDean

1/26/15 11:58pm

Did he not play for them as a Jr as well?

concolor couguar

1/27/15 7:17am

I don't believe so.

JamesDean

1/27/15 7:31am

His stats indicate he did and he pitched for them his jr year

concolor couguar

1/27/15 8:00am

Well that's easy to answer with a simple google.

JamesDean

1/27/15 8:19am

Usually when calling someone out for hogwash the person has his story straight

concolor couguar

1/27/15 8:41am

Right. My first post didn't say how many years he was at Salem. It wasn't even

JamesDean

1/27/15 8:47am

RE: I know for a fact that this post is hogwash.

utblue

1/30/15 9:46am

People in Salem haven't been protecting Gustin

concolor couguar

1/30/15 9:53am

Knowledge of the urban meyer situation?? first hand from the mouth of James

utblue

1/30/15 10:05am

the family is always in protection mode-not salem people.

utblue

1/30/15 10:02am

My hope for the injured parties and for gustin is that they can move forward

concolor couguar

1/30/15 10:15am

the victims are minors-like porter so the records are closed

utblue

1/30/15 10:29am

RE: the victims are minors-like porter so the records are closed

Salem

1/30/15 2:14pm

"All that has happened"...so ridiculous!

Salem

1/30/15 4:47pm

RE: the victims are minors-like porter so the records are closed

Gehrigs Ghost

1/30/15 11:42pm

So you have bought Brother Gustins story hook line and sinker then.

PolarisPrime

1/31/15 2:12am

RE: So you have bought Brother Gustins story hook line and sinker then.

Gehrigs Ghost

1/31/15 5:04am

"But I do know of many problems inside the BYU house."

PolarisPrime

1/31/15 10:30am

What does it take to find out what the allegations are?

CosmoK

1/30/15 10:19am

I've only heard of the hazing one. I've also heard rumors of others but nothing

Ebolarama

1/30/15 10:22am

Going after James now?

Salem

1/30/15 11:53am

I don't feel forced. I was made aware of a few inaccuracies in my post and

Jake72

1/30/15 10:19pm

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