shhhhhh, don't knock down his straw man

Reminds me of a rare "traffic" event I got to be part of the other day

monsterdave

4/18/14 6:19am

I think Bronco has things pointed in a great direction.

CalGTR

4/18/14 7:03am

What did I miss? Something happen on the field?

GA_Coug

4/18/14 7:41am

Bronco does the very best with what he has. If some people were to get their

FierceArc

4/18/14 7:57am

Anae left because he didn't like the direction of the program

donnerstag

4/18/14 8:01am

Yup, that's why I said it was PART of the reason he left.

FierceArc

4/18/14 8:17am

Last year was a mixed bag

donnerstag

4/18/14 8:25am

The numbers were "inflated" as you say because of the offensive scheme

Broda

4/18/14 8:27am

When you run more plays you get more total yards

donnerstag

4/18/14 8:44am

Did we magically play more games than everybody else?

Broda

4/18/14 8:55am

By what measure is our offense significantly improved?

donnerstag

4/18/14 9:00am

Where were they not improved?

Broda

4/18/14 9:10am

All of those measures are correlated to how many plays they ran

donnerstag

4/18/14 9:49am

Ok then lets look at one stat: yards per play

Broda

4/18/14 10:02am

Taysom in Riley out. THAT alone makes a difference

CarolinaCoug

4/18/14 2:08pm

With the run game being the main focus those yds/play are significant imo.

FierceArc

4/18/14 9:40am

So wahat? We had a better oline, not a freshamn rb a 17 year old in fact and no

CarolinaCoug

4/18/14 2:20pm

Anae left because of Reynolds. that's why they brought him back when Reynolds

palangi

4/18/14 9:56pm

He also said that he didn't like the direction of the program

donnerstag

4/18/14 10:01pm

Losing to Utes 4 years in a row is doing the best w/ what he has?

UNLVcougar

4/18/14 11:45am

Bronco does NOT have the same caliber/number of athletic players Kyle does.

AntiSNOT

4/20/14 10:44pm

How many of BM's years have our recruiting rankings been HIGHER thanUtah's and

CarolinaCoug

4/20/14 10:45pm

They still have WAY more team speed at skill positions and a BETTER D.L.

AntiSNOT

4/20/14 10:53pm

you're just talking out of your behind and can't possibly quantify your claim

Michael Skarn

4/20/14 11:06pm

14th in the nation is great...but what did he actually accomplish? Ending the

UNLVcougar

4/18/14 11:52am

All of Bronco's best teams were with recruits he inherited

donnerstag

4/18/14 11:55am

Bingo. His worst years are recent history, which has been with his coaches and

UNLVcougar

4/18/14 11:59am

He's a moronic coach IF doing the best he can is losing to Virginia. I don't

CarolinaCoug

4/18/14 2:18pm

Many remember when Lavel lost to UTEP in first game of season

monsterdave

4/19/14 7:24am

Yeah Duke lost this year to MUTEP was not

CarolinaCoug

4/20/14 11:06pm

Guess the point was- seems too many people griping about opening day losses

monsterdave

4/21/14 6:05am

You are Correct opening day losses happen and can happen to anyone

CarolinaCoug

4/21/14 12:45pm

You guys are hilarious... and delusional. BYU is never going to be as good as

FierceArc

4/18/14 3:21pm

Ah the "go cheer for Alabama" post. A CB classic in the making

Sgt Schultz

4/18/14 3:34pm

Not as old and "classic" as the constant whining about the HC and/or QB.

FierceArc

4/18/14 3:45pm

Alabama always plays safeties with broken backs at QB..

CarolinaCoug

4/18/14 8:14pm

Could you please provide links to posters who think BYU can be as good as

UNLVcougar

4/18/14 4:26pm

shhhhhh, don't knock down his straw man

Michael Skarn

4/18/14 4:28pm

Lol... talk about straw man.. your post is right under a post with a straw man.

FierceArc

4/18/14 5:02pm

such a stupid and tired argument

Michael Skarn

4/18/14 5:06pm

Or... you could realize what you have that's great considering what there is

FierceArc

4/18/14 5:55pm

Hahahah you said straw man. Speaking Of tired cb cliches

Sgt Schultz

4/18/14 5:12pm

uh... he said it first. I'm responding to him... wow.

FierceArc

4/18/14 5:53pm

Remember when he punted from the 32? That was brilliant

Sgt Schultz

4/18/14 3:36pm

Yeah... remember when the kicker couldn't make anything past the 20?

FierceArc

4/18/14 3:51pm

Good point Holly

Sgt Schultz

4/18/14 5:04pm

Thanks Kessman.

FierceArc

4/18/14 5:07pm

Your welcome Holly. Tell cap'n Moroni I said hi

Sgt Schultz

4/18/14 5:14pm

You sure you don't want to whine about him too first?

FierceArc

4/18/14 5:39pm

You could cry about how Bronco took after a guy who's not golden enough

FierceArc

4/18/14 5:44pm

Totally Agreed. This season will be very telling. Is it 8/29 yet?

AntiSNOT

4/20/14 10:40pm

So in your opinion, he hasn't maxed out like many think he did in 2009

Y4LYFE

4/18/14 8:15am

Most of the day to day, off season stuff isn't what I judge Bronco by.

Dan2

4/18/14 8:30am

Bronco has been here every year under Bronco

Mars

4/18/14 8:57am

or Holmoe.. If Holmoe pressured BM to make changes then TOM deserves the credit

CarolinaCoug

4/18/14 2:10pm

I like some of the new hires too, but until the offense actually recovers

Accipiter

4/18/14 9:03am

Bronco is good. I think he could be great though with some minor tweaks.

dYrtbYkerYder

4/18/14 9:49am

this is more or less what I think of Bronco

Michael Skarn

4/18/14 10:29am

I don't think Bronco is a great recruiter. I think he can be a great closer

bvfcr

4/18/14 9:56am

Great Post! Interesting how opinions change with times

Cougarpride

4/18/14 9:58am

bunch of unsubstantiated nonsensical claims

Michael Skarn

4/18/14 10:32am

As I mentioned do your own research

Cougarpride

4/18/14 10:50am

The classic response from the Bronco Bashers

PolarisPrime

4/18/14 9:05pm

Edwards was fan friendly - Bronco is not

LV Mike

4/18/14 11:58am

Lavell Edwards was a special coach, no doubt. . .

byusage

4/18/14 12:56pm

You are asking fans to ignore Bronco's every flaw

LV Mike

4/18/14 2:44pm

Don't kid yourself

PolarisPrime

4/18/14 9:13pm

I really wish you made sense so I could respond

LV Mike

4/18/14 9:55pm

What about that didn't make sense?

byusage

4/19/14 12:47am

Dont wory about it.

PolarisPrime

4/20/14 3:09am

I guess I know a different Bronco

Cougarpride

4/18/14 1:57pm

this is a stupid post that shows a serious inability to grasp

Michael Skarn

4/18/14 2:00pm

The ability to grasp is two-way

Cougarpride

4/18/14 2:46pm

No disagreement with your response - except that Bronco was "thrown"

LV Mike

4/18/14 2:48pm

Mike you are correct the term "thrown" is not the most accurate

Cougarpride

4/18/14 3:07pm

Bronco had way more to work with than when Edwards started

donnerstag

4/18/14 3:12pm

I, for one, would definitely not feel differently if I knew Bronco personally

Michael Skarn

4/18/14 3:12pm

I don't know him so I don't know how I would feel about it

LV Mike

4/18/14 3:21pm

I've spent time with him several times and I actually like him.

JamesDean

4/18/14 10:04pm

So you think using the statement

PolarisPrime

4/20/14 3:11am

I think it's a simple comment in answer to someone's post

JamesDean

4/20/14 7:34am

Thats a wierd response

PolarisPrime

4/20/14 12:59pm

Irony is so awesome!

Sgt Schultz

4/20/14 1:04pm

LOL!!

PolarisPrime

4/20/14 1:11pm

Funny, there, how badly you missed the point.

JamesDean

4/20/14 1:11pm

I hate to sound like a little kid

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 1:14pm

You do. And it's apparent that you don't understand the word.

JamesDean

4/21/14 1:27pm

I am not even sure what word you are refering to.

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 1:29pm

No worries, man. I'm not sure what your definition of bent is, but that one

JamesDean

4/21/14 1:31pm

Let me remind you (paraphrasing - do you know what that big word means?)

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 1:42pm

My "irony" was at you claiming some one else said something weird. I actually

Sgt Schultz

4/21/14 3:25pm

This may be the strangest thread I have ever been involved with.

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 3:57pm

^^^^^doesn't know what irony is^^^^^^

Sgt Schultz

4/21/14 4:26pm

Please explain then.

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 12:59pm

You wouldn't understand. Ask your teacher

Sgt Schultz

4/22/14 3:55pm

So are you saying that you dont really know what Ironic means?

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 5:07pm

Hahahah your picture is in the dictionary next to ironic. Love your schtick.

Sgt Schultz

4/22/14 5:48pm

Actually I have a better question.

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 5:08pm

Oh please keep,it going! Again I LOVE your schtick. Did it take you a long time

Sgt Schultz

4/22/14 5:56pm

So is that an admission that you have lost the debate?

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 6:04pm

When one party, you, doesn't understand what irony is how can you debate? but,

Sgt Schultz

4/22/14 6:05pm

It's kind of ironic to keep insisting that you know what

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 6:15pm

Hahahahah keep going. This is gold Jerry gold

Sgt Schultz

4/22/14 6:32pm

Im getting kind of bored with this, but seriously

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 6:38pm

It's so ironic you say that. Hang on a sec. Im popping some corn. Ok continue

Sgt Schultz

4/22/14 7:12pm

So I guess the answer (shrouded in bravado)

PolarisPrime

4/23/14 6:23pm

You guys should keep going with this. Someone will win eventually.

Italics

4/23/14 6:54pm

No one is asking for compromising of standards We just want to beat Virginia whe

CarolinaCoug

4/18/14 9:25pm

I'm not seeing the same thing you are

Michael Skarn

4/18/14 10:31am

Bronco does deserve credit for recognizing what he was doing with recruiting

CougDogg-e-Dogg

4/18/14 10:48am

Umm..I'll give him credit when his new staff accomplishes something.

UNLVcougar

4/18/14 11:46am

Well, they seem to have with recruiting this past yr. Let's see if that

AntiSNOT

4/20/14 10:52pm

Bronco doesn't get credit when he deserves it because he doesn't beat Utah

pistol12

4/18/14 1:28pm

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East1999

4/18/14 1:48pm

It has been 5 years since his teams have been anything other than average

byutx

4/18/14 4:56pm

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byutx

4/18/14 5:06pm

Bronco's poor staffing decisions would have got most coaches fired.....

Gene Frenkle

4/18/14 7:01pm

Well - since Bronco did not fire Anae

PolarisPrime

4/20/14 1:13pm

Yes. Making your OC reapply and interview with Bronco again to keep his job

LV Mike

4/20/14 2:33pm

Except that we now know (and did years ago) that Bronco

PolarisPrime

4/20/14 2:47pm

Yes, Bronco making Anae reapply was all a myth

LV Mike

4/20/14 3:00pm

If he really wanted Anae to stay, BM would have secured his commitment prior to

Gene Frenkle

4/20/14 4:20pm

You have me mixed up with PolarisPrime

LV Mike

4/20/14 7:45pm

My bad.....sorry LV

Gene Frenkle

4/20/14 9:09pm

So basically you are calling TH, BM and RA liars.

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 12:56am

It is a business my friend and you go with a version that is marketable

Gene Frenkle

4/21/14 7:22am

That makes sense

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 4:14pm

It's called evidence. And yes, Bronco changed the narrative.

LV Mike

4/21/14 8:12am

Got it

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 1:19pm

Actually, I know why YOU call me a Bronco hater, because you are insane

LV Mike

4/21/14 3:05pm

Every media outlet did report the facts incorectly.

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 4:08pm

You tell me, PP (quote)

Michael Skarn

4/21/14 1:04pm

Allow me. It's either

Sgt Schultz

4/21/14 1:10pm

I am going to take #4 for $1000

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 1:30pm

Lol shocking!

Sgt Schultz

4/21/14 1:41pm

You cannot possibly believe this, can you?

Michael Skarn

4/21/14 3:31pm

No. It was not "independantly corroborated"

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 3:48pm

wow, it's so weird how all four of the major news outlets

Michael Skarn

4/21/14 3:57pm

We have a winner

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 4:05pm

Except that Reynolds confirmed their story

donnerstag

4/21/14 4:30pm

IT WASN'T SPECULATION!!!!

Michael Skarn

4/21/14 5:10pm

Is it possible for you to post anything without resorting to name calling?

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 1:13pm

Your post makes Reynolds a liar according to this

donnerstag

4/22/14 1:20pm

So you realize that the link to the Trib article

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 2:01pm

The article used conditional words on things it wasn't sure about

donnerstag

4/22/14 3:06pm

seriously, everything PP says has been pure conjecture

Michael Skarn

4/22/14 3:17pm

Your kidding right?

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 5:06pm

First, of all, it's "you're kidding"

donnerstag

4/22/14 5:12pm

Sorry for the english mistake.

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 5:28pm

You are categorically denying this statement

donnerstag

4/22/14 5:41pm

Yet just a month ago Both Bronco and Anae

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 6:14pm

So you don't believe that both can be true?

donnerstag

4/22/14 6:25pm

I dont think that covers all that happened

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 6:35pm

**YOU** are the absolute king of conjecture, speculation, wild assumptions

Michael Skarn

4/22/14 8:40pm

So that is not even close to what I said

PolarisPrime

4/23/14 6:25pm

do you get dizzy with all that spinning and talking in circles?

Michael Skarn

4/22/14 1:26pm

Sorry - you win the contest for most unreasonable poster

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 1:38pm

I was getting annoyed that this thread wouldn't die then realized it was PP

Jkampana

4/22/14 5:24pm

One is reported by the paper

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 1:28pm

Here's the news story from 2010

donnerstag

4/21/14 8:36am

I should mention that the story was revised to the following after the re-hire

donnerstag

4/21/14 8:50am

The story was never "revised". It was never told

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 1:25pm

Bronco sure didn't show Anae that he wanted to keep him

donnerstag

4/21/14 2:46pm

The only way to keep Anae was to get rid of Reynolds

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 3:07pm

So no matter how many sources confirmed it, it was conjecture?

donnerstag

4/21/14 3:31pm

Untill the actual parties involved say otherwise.

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 3:53pm

The primary source was Reynolds

donnerstag

4/21/14 4:28pm

"everything else is conjecture no matter how many sources confirmed it"

Michael Skarn

4/21/14 5:17pm

Well

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 1:23pm

link to where those three people said that Anae was not encouraged

Michael Skarn

4/22/14 1:43pm

Maybe it would help if you explained what you mean by circles.

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 2:05pm

I didn't see a link anywhere in there

Michael Skarn

4/22/14 2:37pm

Well....

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 5:52pm

That in no way, shape, or form supports what you said

Michael Skarn

4/22/14 8:33pm

Well - you had better go back and re-read what started all this

PolarisPrime

4/23/14 6:28pm

I am not buying the stories

PolarisPrime

4/21/14 4:17pm

PP, if you choose not to believe BM let RA go, you are therefore

Gene Frenkle

4/21/14 6:39pm

I think he realized that RA was leaving mid season

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 12:58pm

Talk about pure conjecture

Jkampana

4/22/14 5:40pm

he's balancing the ledger...

icecougar

4/18/14 7:34pm

There are a lot of other programs that could make most of these claims

Italics

4/18/14 8:12pm

There are only a few Elite teams in college football and as long as

byusage

4/19/14 10:42am

Amen

Ragid1

4/21/14 8:02am

I don't believe this is the issue

Heinz57

4/20/14 6:10pm

I thought Weber should have been let go after his first year.

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 1:29pm

oh my gosh!! why are you so critical and sad?

Michael Skarn

4/22/14 1:55pm

So...

PolarisPrime

4/22/14 5:31pm

Coming from an expert, you need more Cowbell!

Gene Frenkle

4/22/14 6:32pm

gotcha, stats prove that good coaches hire bad coaches

Michael Skarn

4/22/14 8:34pm

Yet again you prove why you dont make very good arguments

PolarisPrime

4/23/14 6:34pm

Is this the longest thread in CB history?

El Fuego

4/21/14 4:16pm

(Please, make it stop!)

LV Mike

4/21/14 5:46pm

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