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May 5, 2015
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Gerald-DeGroot
Great post. Exactly how I feel.
Sadly you will mostly get replies telling you how things are just fine. It's sad.
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Gerald-DeGroot
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:12pm
Your "good is an enemy to great" pretty much nails it
Turnpike Lane
5/5/15 1:16pm
That quote comes from the book "Good to Great",
Hinta
5/5/15 1:43pm
:|
Taullis
5/5/15 1:17pm
Yep. The best 10 year stretch of BYU football not including the year 1984...
db59840
5/5/15 1:26pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:29pm
Thats right...
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 1:49pm
Yup. No conference, no access to money bowls, losing to rivals consistently,
RSLCoug
5/5/15 1:33pm
30+ years ago...
Smoke Monster
5/5/15 1:38pm
I would say 2006 was "remotely close".
db59840
5/5/15 1:47pm
He has been better than remotely close 4 times.
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 1:51pm
Pretty early in the thread to bring up that straw man. There isn't a fan on this
messi
5/5/15 3:03pm
Do you know what a straw man is?
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 3:27pm
Im a bad poster. But you sir are turrible. Just turrible.
Gerald-DeGroot
5/5/15 4:33pm
LOL - Thanks for the compliment.
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 4:36pm
I dont get it.
Gerald-DeGroot
5/5/15 8:20pm
I love when you bring up BYU's theoretical BCS year.
swingcat
5/5/15 4:37pm
I love that you are such a yewt fan
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 4:38pm
ahhh, sweetheart. If that came from anyone else it would be insulting.
swingcat
5/5/15 5:13pm
Sorry... I'm married...
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 5:34pm
One of the most pathetic arguments on the board
Jkampana
5/5/15 4:44pm
do you have anything more than just your opinion to go on?
icecougar
5/5/15 4:41pm
Pfffft.... Easy.
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 4:42pm
hahaha...touche
icecougar
5/5/15 4:43pm
That is all PP does on this board. Spews his opinion and act as if it were fact.
Jkampana
5/5/15 4:45pm
When was the last time you posted a link to "prove" a point?
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 4:51pm
Link?
Jkampana
5/5/15 4:53pm
Got it slugger.
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 5:05pm
That's what you consider to be close?
Smoke Monster
5/5/15 1:54pm
You appear to watch sports in binary: Either you have an undefeated season or
db59840
5/5/15 1:58pm
2006 wasn't close to what Utah accomplished in 2004 and 2008...
Smoke Monster
5/5/15 2:03pm
Thats right!!!!! Two whole plays were the difference in 2006......
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 2:09pm
One OT loss on the road is the only thing that separates 1996 from 2006. How is
db59840
5/5/15 2:09pm
I just want to understand where you are coming from...
Smoke Monster
5/5/15 2:20pm
BYU 2006; AZ makes 52 yd FG to win, Utah; TCU misses two 20 yd FG to lose.
Cougar76
5/5/15 2:36pm
In 2008... 1st week of Novermber Utah was ranked 10th...
Smoke Monster
5/5/15 2:59pm
I don't get your argument about when teams were ranked...
byu_coug
5/5/15 10:17pm
Utah smoked Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.....
RupertPupkin
5/5/15 3:03pm
Yes. BYU was lucky to win all their games in 1984. To be a champion you have to
db59840
5/5/15 3:19pm
......and?
RupertPupkin
5/5/15 3:29pm
I think you fail to realize just how random the outcomes of sporting events
db59840
5/5/15 3:40pm
RE: I think you fail to realize just how random the outcomes of sporting events
RupertPupkin
5/5/15 4:54pm
It's not a coin flip, but "being good" only gets you so far. You need luck to
db59840
5/5/15 5:10pm
RE: It's not a coin flip, but "being good" only gets you so far. You need luck
RupertPupkin
5/5/15 8:05pm
My question for you then...
byu_coug
5/5/15 5:23pm
RE: My question for you then...
RupertPupkin
5/5/15 8:08pm
What you just described has never been the history at BYU
byu_coug
5/5/15 10:00pm
I have a hypothesis that this is related to where fans live. I'm going to go
db59840
5/6/15 11:11am
RE: What you just described has never been the history at BYU
RupertPupkin
5/6/15 11:26am
The better team makes the plays necessary to win
Utesplease
5/6/15 12:46pm
lol. TCU did not miss 2 20 yard fgs
Utesplease
5/5/15 3:38pm
LOL - you are so right.
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 4:49pm
That, or you need to look up the terms "remote" and "close" in the dictionary.
db59840
5/5/15 1:59pm
1974-1983?
Turnpike Lane
5/5/15 1:41pm
That's the only other comparable 10 year period not including 1984.
db59840
5/5/15 1:56pm
1985-94
Y05
5/5/15 8:13pm
That is essentially what I wrote in response to the poll and I agree. Crowton
Real Men Wear Blue
5/5/15 1:26pm
You make a great strawman argument
BYUMizzou
5/5/15 1:27pm
Yep. I think we can all agree we would like to see better results. An NY6 now
db59840
5/5/15 1:31pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:34pm
But it's NOT a given. Crowton didn't run a clean ship. Not even close.
db59840
5/5/15 1:49pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:50pm
Which proves that it's not a given. Crowton couldn't do it. Bronco has done it.
db59840
5/5/15 2:01pm
Bronco has had plenty of time and has plateaued
Tip Tucker
5/5/15 1:29pm
So by plateaued you mean that barring injuries last year...
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 1:53pm
last year was an awful schedule
Tip Tucker
5/5/15 1:58pm
Last year was an awful schedule??????
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 2:10pm
This year is a very good schedule
Tip Tucker
5/5/15 2:18pm
You really believe it was one of the best ever?
checoug
5/5/15 2:32pm
LOL - Awful. Such hyperbole
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 3:32pm
your theories are not facts.
swingcat
5/5/15 4:53pm
You really have a keen eye for the near obvious
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 5:10pm
Losing badly to Utah State at home and 4 straight against Utah hurts so bad
Rise Against
5/5/15 1:35pm
Plus trying to ice a kicker on a PAT by using two crucial TO's. Ouch.
Rise Against
5/5/15 1:36pm
Plus....I know this will require therapy to bring up again, but.....Riley Nelsen
Rise Against
5/5/15 1:37pm
That's the best example
wilsdad
5/5/15 3:20pm
You mean Hill the freshman who was just back from a mission?
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 4:41pm
Yes, that same guy that almost single handily won us the game against Boise
Rise Against
5/5/15 7:36pm
So, I agree that Hill would have been better....
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 9:37pm
"If you demand perfection or nothing, you will always end up with nothing."
HuskerFan2
5/5/15 1:36pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:41pm
You're right. If BYU fans dig that hole we're not coming out.
HuskerFan2
5/5/15 1:49pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:56pm
Wow. You really have a vendetta dont you?
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 1:57pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 2:05pm
Who? Buck?
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 2:11pm
When I read the BoM I think 600 & 400 yrs is not so long to read. For you it
Q-grr
5/5/15 1:49pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:52pm
Yes, it seems that things are dismal, but in the grand scheme we will survive to
Q-grr
5/5/15 1:58pm
So....
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 1:56pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:58pm
No they arent.
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 2:12pm
The truth comes out. It's all about Utah.
Blue Cat
5/5/15 1:57pm
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Mall Santa
5/5/15 1:59pm
No, you don't get it.
Blue Cat
5/5/15 2:04pm
If you can't own recruiting in your own state there is a problem
Tip Tucker
5/5/15 2:10pm
So both BYU and Utah are in trouble.
Blue Cat
5/5/15 2:24pm
I agree it is bad for both schools
Tip Tucker
5/5/15 2:27pm
Not really.
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 2:14pm
Do you see any changes in the positive direction?
Bob Vance
5/5/15 2:29pm
So the question comes down to, and has always been: Who on earth do you
ocmyhome
5/5/15 3:03pm
I hope Tom is already exploring both options
HuskerFan2
5/5/15 3:47pm
Right back at you.
CMuehle
5/5/15 3:12pm
Exactly right...
byu_coug
5/5/15 4:38pm
Great post. Exactly how I feel.
Gerald-DeGroot
5/5/15 4:12pm
Its easier to take over a "good" program and make strides than a bad program.
Reasonable1
5/5/15 4:20pm
I love how more money than ever, better TV coverage than ever,
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 4:28pm
Alex smith and Weddle made Urbans takeover a lot easier.
Reasonable1
5/5/15 4:37pm
you forgot that all this occurred while playing top 15 SOS's in back to back yrs
icecougar
5/5/15 4:38pm
All very true.
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 4:54pm
Also, Crowton didn't get to hire his own staff of assistants, he had to carry...
icecougar
5/6/15 2:14am
Or if Luke Staley had stayed for his Sr Season.
PolarisPrime
5/6/15 10:56am
Sorry. Crowton muffed it so many times in so many ways. Hard to defend
Coogar2
5/5/15 5:24pm
he did make a lot of mistakes but just about anyone would in his situation...
icecougar
5/6/15 2:30am
Crowton's biggest mistake was not honoring the honor code with his recruiting
Q-grr
5/6/15 10:04am
I think it was more that he didn't realize
PolarisPrime
5/6/15 11:01am
The biggest issue I have with this is all evidence points to the contrary
Still Questing
5/5/15 4:49pm
Exactly. When replacing a winning coach in college it rarely gets more wins
Coogar2
5/5/15 5:22pm
And it hasn't gotten any better
PolarisPrime
5/5/15 5:37pm
Caboom!
mtnKat
5/5/15 6:10pm
Three words
Freddie Cougar
5/5/15 6:06pm
Great post. I agree wholeheartedly.
eddog
5/5/15 10:55pm
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