Great post. I agree wholeheartedly.

May 5, 2015
10:55:54pm

eddog

I don't think Bronco is a great coach. Unfortunately, he's just barely good enough that he'll never get fired. The only way Bronco leaves is if he does so voluntarily of his own volition. It's very frustrating.

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:12pm

Your "good is an enemy to great" pretty much nails it

Turnpike Lane

5/5/15 1:16pm

That quote comes from the book "Good to Great",

Hinta

5/5/15 1:43pm

Taullis

5/5/15 1:17pm

Yep. The best 10 year stretch of BYU football not including the year 1984...

db59840

5/5/15 1:26pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:29pm

Thats right...

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 1:49pm

Yup. No conference, no access to money bowls, losing to rivals consistently,

RSLCoug

5/5/15 1:33pm

30+ years ago...

Smoke Monster

5/5/15 1:38pm

I would say 2006 was "remotely close".

db59840

5/5/15 1:47pm

He has been better than remotely close 4 times.

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 1:51pm

Pretty early in the thread to bring up that straw man. There isn't a fan on this

messi

5/5/15 3:03pm

Do you know what a straw man is?

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 3:27pm

Im a bad poster. But you sir are turrible. Just turrible.

Gerald-DeGroot

5/5/15 4:33pm

LOL - Thanks for the compliment.

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 4:36pm

I dont get it.

Gerald-DeGroot

5/5/15 8:20pm

I love when you bring up BYU's theoretical BCS year.

swingcat

5/5/15 4:37pm

I love that you are such a yewt fan

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 4:38pm

ahhh, sweetheart. If that came from anyone else it would be insulting.

swingcat

5/5/15 5:13pm

Sorry... I'm married...

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 5:34pm

One of the most pathetic arguments on the board

Jkampana

5/5/15 4:44pm

do you have anything more than just your opinion to go on?

icecougar

5/5/15 4:41pm

Pfffft.... Easy.

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 4:42pm

hahaha...touche

icecougar

5/5/15 4:43pm

That is all PP does on this board. Spews his opinion and act as if it were fact.

Jkampana

5/5/15 4:45pm

When was the last time you posted a link to "prove" a point?

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 4:51pm

Link?

Jkampana

5/5/15 4:53pm

Got it slugger.

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 5:05pm

That's what you consider to be close?

Smoke Monster

5/5/15 1:54pm

You appear to watch sports in binary: Either you have an undefeated season or

db59840

5/5/15 1:58pm

2006 wasn't close to what Utah accomplished in 2004 and 2008...

Smoke Monster

5/5/15 2:03pm

Thats right!!!!! Two whole plays were the difference in 2006......

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 2:09pm

One OT loss on the road is the only thing that separates 1996 from 2006. How is

db59840

5/5/15 2:09pm

I just want to understand where you are coming from...

Smoke Monster

5/5/15 2:20pm

BYU 2006; AZ makes 52 yd FG to win, Utah; TCU misses two 20 yd FG to lose.

Cougar76

5/5/15 2:36pm

In 2008... 1st week of Novermber Utah was ranked 10th...

Smoke Monster

5/5/15 2:59pm

I don't get your argument about when teams were ranked...

byu_coug

5/5/15 10:17pm

Utah smoked Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.....

RupertPupkin

5/5/15 3:03pm

Yes. BYU was lucky to win all their games in 1984. To be a champion you have to

db59840

5/5/15 3:19pm

......and?

RupertPupkin

5/5/15 3:29pm

I think you fail to realize just how random the outcomes of sporting events

db59840

5/5/15 3:40pm

RE: I think you fail to realize just how random the outcomes of sporting events

RupertPupkin

5/5/15 4:54pm

It's not a coin flip, but "being good" only gets you so far. You need luck to

db59840

5/5/15 5:10pm

RE: It's not a coin flip, but "being good" only gets you so far. You need luck

RupertPupkin

5/5/15 8:05pm

My question for you then...

byu_coug

5/5/15 5:23pm

RE: My question for you then...

RupertPupkin

5/5/15 8:08pm

What you just described has never been the history at BYU

byu_coug

5/5/15 10:00pm

I have a hypothesis that this is related to where fans live. I'm going to go

db59840

5/6/15 11:11am

RE: What you just described has never been the history at BYU

RupertPupkin

5/6/15 11:26am

The better team makes the plays necessary to win

Utesplease

5/6/15 12:46pm

lol. TCU did not miss 2 20 yard fgs

Utesplease

5/5/15 3:38pm

LOL - you are so right.

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 4:49pm

That, or you need to look up the terms "remote" and "close" in the dictionary.

db59840

5/5/15 1:59pm

1974-1983?

Turnpike Lane

5/5/15 1:41pm

That's the only other comparable 10 year period not including 1984.

db59840

5/5/15 1:56pm

1985-94

Y05

5/5/15 8:13pm

That is essentially what I wrote in response to the poll and I agree. Crowton

Real Men Wear Blue

5/5/15 1:26pm

You make a great strawman argument

BYUMizzou

5/5/15 1:27pm

Yep. I think we can all agree we would like to see better results. An NY6 now

db59840

5/5/15 1:31pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:34pm

But it's NOT a given. Crowton didn't run a clean ship. Not even close.

db59840

5/5/15 1:49pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:50pm

Which proves that it's not a given. Crowton couldn't do it. Bronco has done it.

db59840

5/5/15 2:01pm

Bronco has had plenty of time and has plateaued

Tip Tucker

5/5/15 1:29pm

So by plateaued you mean that barring injuries last year...

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 1:53pm

last year was an awful schedule

Tip Tucker

5/5/15 1:58pm

Last year was an awful schedule??????

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 2:10pm

This year is a very good schedule

Tip Tucker

5/5/15 2:18pm

You really believe it was one of the best ever?

checoug

5/5/15 2:32pm

LOL - Awful. Such hyperbole

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 3:32pm

your theories are not facts.

swingcat

5/5/15 4:53pm

You really have a keen eye for the near obvious

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 5:10pm

Losing badly to Utah State at home and 4 straight against Utah hurts so bad

Rise Against

5/5/15 1:35pm

Plus trying to ice a kicker on a PAT by using two crucial TO's. Ouch.

Rise Against

5/5/15 1:36pm

Plus....I know this will require therapy to bring up again, but.....Riley Nelsen

Rise Against

5/5/15 1:37pm

That's the best example

wilsdad

5/5/15 3:20pm

You mean Hill the freshman who was just back from a mission?

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 4:41pm

Yes, that same guy that almost single handily won us the game against Boise

Rise Against

5/5/15 7:36pm

So, I agree that Hill would have been better....

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 9:37pm

"If you demand perfection or nothing, you will always end up with nothing."

HuskerFan2

5/5/15 1:36pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:41pm

You're right. If BYU fans dig that hole we're not coming out.

HuskerFan2

5/5/15 1:49pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:56pm

Wow. You really have a vendetta dont you?

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 1:57pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 2:05pm

Who? Buck?

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 2:11pm

When I read the BoM I think 600 & 400 yrs is not so long to read. For you it

Q-grr

5/5/15 1:49pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:52pm

Yes, it seems that things are dismal, but in the grand scheme we will survive to

Q-grr

5/5/15 1:58pm

So....

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 1:56pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:58pm

No they arent.

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 2:12pm

The truth comes out. It's all about Utah.

Blue Cat

5/5/15 1:57pm

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Mall Santa

5/5/15 1:59pm

No, you don't get it.

Blue Cat

5/5/15 2:04pm

If you can't own recruiting in your own state there is a problem

Tip Tucker

5/5/15 2:10pm

So both BYU and Utah are in trouble.

Blue Cat

5/5/15 2:24pm

I agree it is bad for both schools

Tip Tucker

5/5/15 2:27pm

Not really.

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 2:14pm

Do you see any changes in the positive direction?

Bob Vance

5/5/15 2:29pm

So the question comes down to, and has always been: Who on earth do you

ocmyhome

5/5/15 3:03pm

I hope Tom is already exploring both options

HuskerFan2

5/5/15 3:47pm

Right back at you.

CMuehle

5/5/15 3:12pm

Exactly right...

byu_coug

5/5/15 4:38pm

Great post. Exactly how I feel.

Gerald-DeGroot

5/5/15 4:12pm

Its easier to take over a "good" program and make strides than a bad program.

Reasonable1

5/5/15 4:20pm

I love how more money than ever, better TV coverage than ever,

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 4:28pm

Alex smith and Weddle made Urbans takeover a lot easier.

Reasonable1

5/5/15 4:37pm

you forgot that all this occurred while playing top 15 SOS's in back to back yrs

icecougar

5/5/15 4:38pm

All very true.

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 4:54pm

Also, Crowton didn't get to hire his own staff of assistants, he had to carry...

icecougar

5/6/15 2:14am

Or if Luke Staley had stayed for his Sr Season.

PolarisPrime

5/6/15 10:56am

Sorry. Crowton muffed it so many times in so many ways. Hard to defend

Coogar2

5/5/15 5:24pm

he did make a lot of mistakes but just about anyone would in his situation...

icecougar

5/6/15 2:30am

Crowton's biggest mistake was not honoring the honor code with his recruiting

Q-grr

5/6/15 10:04am

I think it was more that he didn't realize

PolarisPrime

5/6/15 11:01am

The biggest issue I have with this is all evidence points to the contrary

Still Questing

5/5/15 4:49pm

Exactly. When replacing a winning coach in college it rarely gets more wins

Coogar2

5/5/15 5:22pm

And it hasn't gotten any better

PolarisPrime

5/5/15 5:37pm

Caboom!

mtnKat

5/5/15 6:10pm

Three words

Freddie Cougar

5/5/15 6:06pm

Great post. I agree wholeheartedly.

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