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Oct 4, 2019
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CougarThug
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Yup, lets reprise the old classic realists vs optimists debate.
It's always good for a few rounds of inane commentary.
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What’s wrong with you people?
Royalblueglasses
10/4/19 12:43am
A bad stretch? He is .500 coach overall. And it’s not like he
cougarfann888
10/4/19 12:47am
Yeah, we all know. But, the constant whining by fans doesn't help.
Benfica1
10/4/19 8:02am
Put your money where your mouth is
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 8:22am
You seem to take Kalani's 'failures' pretty personal.
Benfica1
10/4/19 8:25am
So your answer is no, you can't point to any of the posts you claim exist all
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 8:31am
You should have been advising Sitake a couple years ago when he was bashing his
LV Mike
10/4/19 8:31am
AMEN!!!
Palestra
10/5/19 3:21am
LOL.
Benfica1
10/5/19 5:43pm
Actually it dows. It invokes change apathy does not.
CarolinaCoug
10/4/19 3:18pm
Whining is exactly what drives CFB
Resurgens
10/4/19 3:24pm
Questioning and being unsatisfied with underperformance is being a fan.
Benfica1
10/4/19 3:30pm
We have witnessed the same pattern season after season. Sitake can't get it
LV Mike
10/5/19 8:52am
Yup
dccoug
10/7/19 7:02am
Kalani is a great person, but we need a great football coach
Jericho
10/4/19 12:49am
We need the Shackles taken off the program
8theU
10/4/19 12:23pm
Which ones? They are external--we can't make ourselves P5
SC-Zoobie
10/4/19 11:10pm
Paragraphs are your friend.
pittsburghcoug
10/4/19 12:50am
Big deal huh.....
Rocketman
10/4/19 8:06am
RE: Paragraphs are your friend.
Royalblueglasses
10/4/19 8:32am
It was hard to follow with the paragraph problem and the you're in the wrong
pappabear246
10/4/19 9:10am
RE: It was hard to follow with the paragraph problem and the you're in the wrong
Royalblueglasses
10/4/19 9:43am
Thanks for fixing.
pittsburghcoug
10/4/19 12:16pm
Could you tell me how much BYU coaches are paid?
Lolo
10/4/19 12:51am
Nobody can
Pretorian
10/4/19 4:16am
I know how much KS makes.
PessimisticCB
10/4/19 6:37am
KS pay ranks the same as north Texas HC
PessimisticCB
10/4/19 6:38am
1.7 mil??
JupiterJones
10/4/19 7:07am
Got anything to back that up?
Lolo
10/4/19 8:59am
<< Deleted >>
PessimisticCB
10/4/19 10:11am
Which doesn't include the coaches circle. He makes a lot more money than payroll
Lance71
10/4/19 10:05am
It does include coaches circle.
PessimisticCB
10/4/19 10:16am
Then you have the numbers wrong.
Lance71
10/4/19 2:31pm
Or there are no numbers at all.
Lolo
10/4/19 3:30pm
My numbers are from a coaches circle donor
PessimisticCB
10/5/19 11:14am
We need fans like you. Fans of eternal optimism. Fans no matter what.
billyrust
10/4/19 12:57am
Fans who don't use paragraphs?
BYUtka
10/4/19 7:34am
Big deal..... glad you passed English are you?
Rocketman
10/4/19 8:08am
Not really.
BYUtka
10/4/19 8:47am
We should be able to expect at least a basic level of proficiency at writing,
Nogi-oshi
10/5/19 12:25am
You may have missed the point of his post. Optimism is great. Realism is also
Benfica1
10/4/19 8:05am
Yup, lets reprise the old classic realists vs optimists debate.
CougarThug
10/4/19 1:32pm
Sure. Do it.
Benfica1
10/4/19 1:34pm
and who doesn't hate a 'bad lose'?
ManicBlue
10/4/19 12:58am
Agree that the honor code is an amputation of one leg of BYU sports
Countcougula
10/4/19 12:59am
Hey see that Tiger paw? Nc 1980 then pretty much same trajectory as BYU
CarolinaCoug
10/4/19 2:10am
IT IS NOT ABOUT $$$ or Coaching
SC-Zoobie
10/4/19 2:57am
<< Deleted >>
bus driverman
10/4/19 3:54am
It isn’t one game, it’s .500 + average finish of 70.
Mr. Scoobs
10/4/19 4:14am
2019 is a different season than 2016, 2017 or 2018
donnerstag
10/4/19 6:54am
Sagarin 73 and Massey's 77 looks the same.
kooogar
10/4/19 7:48am
Current rank this season? Also in the 70’s. Let’s herald success when it happens
Mr. Scoobs
10/4/19 9:59am
We are about where we were expected to be after 5 games
donnerstag
10/4/19 10:08am
And if we do I’ll be the 1st to join in the celebration
Mr. Scoobs
10/4/19 10:13am
That's true, our expectations were based on previous years results.
kooogar
10/4/19 10:53am
How bad do results need to get to call a spade a spade?
Mr. Scoobs
10/12/19 5:06pm
Ping me if we get to 6 losses
donnerstag
10/12/19 5:47pm
Game plan, in-game adjustments & play calls are on the coach, not the BOT or AD
ptcougr
10/4/19 4:28am
RE: What’s wrong with you people?
Squeegee
10/4/19 4:44am
Holy text! Paragraphs were a great invention. Try it!
Soy Celeste
10/4/19 4:56am
Focus on nits much?
Rocketman
10/4/19 8:09am
Chill
Mtbcoug
10/4/19 9:43am
Get over it!
BYU4eVeR
10/4/19 8:20am
Gary Crowton would still be coaching now with that attitude.Being a fan does not
Incentivize
10/4/19 5:15am
Uhhhh
Backcountry
10/4/19 5:31am
Bronco wasn't ran out of town. He got a promotion. Also it isn't about BYU
IceCreamButt
10/4/19 5:42am
That is some high quality revisionists history about Bronco leaving.
BYUtka
10/4/19 7:35am
Hahaha you bronco lovers are blinded by your love. Look bronco was a good coach
IceCreamButt
10/4/19 8:37am
Bronco lovers?
BYUtka
10/4/19 8:48am
You use the term "bronco haters", I'm just using the opposite.
IceCreamButt
10/4/19 9:53am
You deny BYU ruining their Big 12 chances and ask for a link but you confidently accept that bronco was ran
Zach Morris
10/4/19 9:54am
Bronco was run out of town. CB was against him, his family was being verbally
rockyrd
10/4/19 12:22pm
Haha CB was against him? Oh my. It's college football, if you can't take critics
IceCreamButt
10/4/19 12:46pm
Such a stupid opinion. May God have mercy on your soul.
Backcountry
10/4/19 12:59pm
Bronco himself said independence was unsustainable
SC-Zoobie
10/4/19 5:40pm
RE: What’s wrong with you people?
Saxa
10/4/19 5:47am
Use some paragraphs, by golly.
Alsippi89
10/4/19 5:53am
Focus on nits much?
Rocketman
10/4/19 8:10am
Apparently you like that cute little phrase. Copy and paste makes it easy for
Soy Celeste
10/4/19 8:53pm
“You’ve been warned”? WTY?
TriggerWarning
10/4/19 6:02am
Thanks Mrs. Sitake.
slowhiteguy
10/4/19 6:03am
RE: Thanks Mrs. Sitake.
Royalblueglasses
10/4/19 10:04am
Everything you've listed is also pointed out here regularly.
zonacougar
10/4/19 6:22am
"You've been warned." LOL. Are you making threats?
South_A
10/4/19 6:33am
There will be "eternal" consequences. 😉
ReyOso
10/4/19 7:44am
Spot on. It’s tough for many to accept
Uncle Bluto
10/4/19 6:46am
RE: What’s wrong with you people?
Salami Karate
10/4/19 6:58am
It would in fact make me happy if President Nelson asked Andy Reid to do it.
JuicyJam
10/4/19 7:03am
I would love for Kalani to succeed. He has to change some things to do it.
byusage
10/4/19 7:03am
Paragraphs please
BigYfan
10/4/19 7:11am
Please spare us the English shaming....
Rocketman
10/4/19 8:12am
Where’s the nits comment?
Soy Celeste
10/4/19 8:54pm
Chanta.
Rocketman
10/4/19 9:06pm
So much hyperbole and so many strawmen in your post. Great job
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 7:12am
This^^^
guitarplayingcougar
10/4/19 7:41am
Talk about strawmen...
TheLost
10/4/19 7:59am
I know you have the bluest of blue goggles, but the ONLY thing I said is that
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 8:13am
If you don't think Academics and Culture have an impact...
TheLost
10/4/19 8:40am
Two things that you apparently are arguing I said:
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 8:46am
RE: Two things that you apparently are arguing I said:
TheLost
10/4/19 9:12am
We had NIU at home AFTER A BYE last year, and still lost
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 9:27am
My position...
TheLost
10/4/19 9:49am
The only thing on your list that's changed over the past 20 years is our
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 10:01am
You have the 'blue goggles' on if you think nothing has changed
TheLost
10/4/19 10:25am
Here's your list of things you cited:
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 10:43am
EXACTLY!!!! Why do we keep pretending
SC-Zoobie
10/6/19 2:19am
Yes, strawman and hyperbole on both sides of the argument. If Kalani doesn't
Benfica1
10/4/19 8:07am
So your take is that we can only talk about sunshine and rainbows and unicorns
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 8:17am
Looks like now you're taking my posts personally.
Benfica1
10/4/19 9:56am
See, this is why I have such a hard time taking what you're posting seriously
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 10:50am
You're a serious dude. Should I take your posts 'seriously'. Lighten up, bro.
Benfica1
10/4/19 11:29am
You got him good. Sick burn.
crazY
10/4/19 12:05pm
It was literally the most hyperbolic post in the history of the world.
Jacksonian76
10/5/19 7:12am
I thought for 10 seconds about rebutting your arguments, but thought better.
TrueBlue67
10/4/19 7:27am
"enjoy the ride"????
run26
10/4/19 7:33am
So if these coaches were paid more they would somehow win more?
guitarplayingcougar
10/4/19 7:38am
Exactly. I would love it if someone could name one person on the
TrueBlue67
10/4/19 7:43am
How would you know that? Not saying you are wrong, but how would you know
SUAVO
10/4/19 8:23am
A few of the coaches would be hired by BYU equivalent programs
donnerstag
10/4/19 9:06am
Paragraphs are your friend
ReyOso
10/4/19 7:43am
It’s not too late to quit focusing on nits.
Rocketman
10/4/19 8:11am
KS is over paid. He’s paid like a small
SaintJeff
10/4/19 7:55am
Listen Kalani, I like you. You’re a great dude. Just in over your head as coach.
Mr. Belding
10/4/19 8:14am
If Mike Leach had a CB account...
crazY
10/4/19 8:16am
Finally a post I can read and agree with
BYU4eVeR
10/4/19 8:18am
Paragraphs are a wonderful thing!
Zhenkar
10/4/19 8:22am
I got you, Rocketman: get over it and stop focusing on nits!!!!!!
crazY
10/4/19 8:23am
Lol. I'm just here so I don't get fined!
Zhenkar
10/4/19 8:26am
Someone had to do it. I assume Rocketman wore his fingers out with all that
crazY
10/4/19 8:29am
The deeper rooted issue is definitely above the HC level.
Desert Rat
10/4/19 8:22am
The only coach who is getting paid his worth is Grimes, but his worth is as an
cougaman
10/4/19 8:25am
Paragraphsarelikespaces, they're helpful.
Cru Jones
10/4/19 8:33am
crazY, do you want to step in here?
BYUMizzou
10/4/19 8:36am
RE: crazY, do you want to step in here?
Cru Jones
10/4/19 8:42am
RE: Paragraphsarelikespaces, they're helpful.
crazY
10/4/19 8:42am
Well said
MBobMean
10/4/19 8:51am
Did you just drink a gallon of colonoscopy prep?
coastcat
10/4/19 9:20am
RE: What’s wrong with you people?
Dynasty1
10/4/19 9:26am
RE: What’s wrong with you people?
sah22
10/4/19 9:35am
RE: What’s wrong with you people?
Ash
10/4/19 9:52am
RE: What’s wrong with you people?
Turd Ferguson
10/4/19 10:08am
Why? Because he has had ample time to demonstrate his potential, and it's mediocre.
Bob Vance
10/4/19 10:22am
This is my stance too. We have seen enough to know by now what we've got in him.
guitarplayingcougar
10/4/19 10:25am
What's wrong with us? What's wrong with you?
UberDeek
10/4/19 10:25am
ubergeek and the rest of the haters-turn your filters on
Jizosh
10/4/19 10:48pm
What? Knowing there's a problem doesn't make me a hater. This is year 4 for
UberDeek
10/5/19 12:32am
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
crazY
10/5/19 11:47am
Heck I'd settle for playing to our potential
Resurgens
10/5/19 1:29pm
The Toledo loss was disappointing, but i'm not calling for Kilani's head yet.
Judge Judy
10/4/19 10:30am
I agree with some of what you said but believe more is on Sitake than what you
BlueForLife
10/4/19 10:36am
Somebody is a little sensitive 😢
cougERdoc
10/4/19 10:41am
I'm a fan. That's what's wrong with me.
BlueFever
10/4/19 11:17am
400 Milligreenrakes
CougarMandias
10/4/19 11:57am
I can't take someone who says "by golly" serious
HMASON15
10/4/19 12:16pm
30 Nominations for post of the day. I think you've struck a chord! I agree!
rockyrd
10/4/19 12:17pm
"Struck a chord"
crazY
10/4/19 12:22pm
Sigh.
dccoug
10/4/19 12:18pm
This post would have been pretty good if this was Sitake's first year but in
Napoli
10/4/19 12:21pm
My expectations I think are reasonable, compete with the top G5 programs f
USMCdad
10/4/19 12:24pm
I have a problem with this post
chazen
10/4/19 12:43pm
To be fair (to myself), I didn't want Kalani to be hired in 2016 either.
dYrtbYkerYder
10/4/19 1:58pm
What culture is Kalani trying to build???
doctorthunderpants
10/4/19 2:14pm
POTD and POTSeason thus far.
UNHuskerCoug
10/4/19 2:28pm
This is exactly how I feel...
BleedBlueBlood
10/4/19 3:03pm
Do you just want to keep getting beat by teams we have no business loaing to?
CarolinaCoug
10/4/19 3:15pm
More of the stupid "expect to compete with Bama" strawman
Resurgens
10/4/19 3:21pm
His whole post is made up of strawmen or just complete bullcrap. It is
IceCreamButt
10/4/19 6:00pm
Post-edit you still get a thumbs down.
Ash
10/4/19 7:10pm
I like the positive attitude
Feterik
10/4/19 7:26pm
I posted about this 2 days ago (banning whiners) and got all kinds of crap
OldFogey
10/4/19 7:47pm
Sitake is well into his 4th season. He's not a rookie anymore & .500 isn't....
BleedCougarBlue2
10/4/19 11:30pm
I'm not enjoying being a fan. I dont want to cheer a team that is forever lame.
Iki_Balam
10/5/19 1:15am
A: Lots.
cheezedawg
10/5/19 11:49am
I feel like your thoughts on Head coaches is influenced by your belief in the
conetah
10/5/19 2:33pm
RE: I feel like your thoughts on Head coaches is influenced by your belief in
Royalblueglasses
10/6/19 9:48pm
KS is no Lavell Edwards. Lavell knew what he was doing. KS is like a deer in the
TrueBlue67
10/6/19 9:51pm
Their records for the first four years were similar. Lavell had zero wins over
Nogi-oshi
10/6/19 10:50pm
Lavell inherited a horrendous program. Kalani inherited a decend/good program.
Lance71
10/6/19 11:07pm
That doesn’t change the fact that Lavell certainly didn’t look like he “knew
Nogi-oshi
10/7/19 3:09pm
I disagree with you. It did look like he knew what he was doing to me.
Lance71
10/8/19 8:50am
In what way? The performance of his teams didn't indicate it during those years.
Nogi-oshi
10/8/19 10:28pm
LaVell took over a no name program and won 2 WAC titles in his 1st 5 years. He
Dynasty1
10/6/19 11:08pm
I don't know that I can really disagree with much that you've said, but today's
OldFogey
10/8/19 1:15pm
I didn’t “enjoy the ride” today either
run26
10/12/19 5:11pm
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