Intentional. Point blank with a .45.

Jul 19, 2021
5:58:16pm

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Drifter left tragedy in his wake

In the space of a few hours Wednesday, two Utahns' lives were altered and forever linked by Richard Wilson, a violent stranger randomly wandering the West — and leaving tragedy in his wake.

https://www.deseret.com/2004/6/11/19834069/drifter-left-tragedy-in-his-wake[https://bit.ly/2ToW0io]

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Time

POLL: Do you personally know someone who was murdered?

Jeff Spicoli

7/19/21 5:26pm

Well, not anymore.

Zaphod

7/19/21 5:29pm

Probably ... step cousin ...

Xenon

7/19/21 5:29pm

If yes, share the story

macdizzle

7/19/21 5:32pm

My fourth grade teacher was shot and killed by his brother. I also had a

Coug98

7/19/21 5:36pm

Silver Mesa was a great school. Had the same teacher. So sad.

kirkginn

7/19/21 8:37pm

Yup! That was a long time ago and very sad situation for the family. That poor

Coug98

7/19/21 10:04pm

Childhood friend/next door neighbor was killed by rival gang member from our neighborhood…

Zach Morris

7/20/21 12:00am

Went to HS with the girl that was murdered in that Idaho bank robbery in 1991

timpjynx

7/19/21 5:34pm

(and our HS had like 45 kids per grade, so yeah, everyone knew everyone)

timpjynx

7/19/21 5:36pm

Link to story

timpjynx

7/19/21 5:38pm

The old Caribou County sheriff often talked about the case

AZ Coug

7/19/21 6:33pm

yeah, so senseless.. she was such a sweet girl. wouldn't hurt a fly.

timpjynx

7/19/21 10:00pm

My SIL was shot in the head as a teen but survived. Extremely lucky to be alive.

Niiineteeen84

7/19/21 5:39pm

Intentional or accidental?

ChiCityCoug

7/19/21 5:47pm

Intentional. Point blank with a .45.

Niiineteeen84

7/19/21 5:58pm

Woah. What was the motive?

ChiCityCoug

7/19/21 6:01pm

I posted an article.

Niiineteeen84

7/19/21 6:07pm

Missed that.

ChiCityCoug

7/19/21 6:12pm

I did it after the fact.

Niiineteeen84

7/19/21 6:59pm

I knew this guy:

Cougarclaw

7/19/21 5:39pm

No, but my wife found out she had a half brother that was murdered.

Y-Zag

7/19/21 5:39pm

No, but I grew up with the Helzers.

cypresstx

7/19/21 5:41pm

I had a friend when I was 17 that was at a 7-11 at 1 am in his car while it was

BW84

7/19/21 5:44pm

We had a serial shooter in Mesa years back. Would drive by and shoot someone with a 4-10 shotgun. One of his last victim

mvtoro

7/19/21 5:44pm

No, but I know someone who was a murderer

Zenoch

7/19/21 5:45pm

A few. All gang related stuff.

mokelembembe

7/19/21 5:45pm

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mokelembembe

7/19/21 5:55pm

I knew one of the Zodiac murderer’s victims. He survived. Girlfriend died.

Kaanapali

7/19/21 5:45pm

Also had a client shot by her ex-husband.

Kaanapali

7/19/21 5:57pm

The guy portrayed by Jimmi Simpson in Zodiac?

Kavorka

7/19/21 7:40pm

A girl in our ward who babysat a lot for us.

rocker

7/19/21 5:46pm

Guy I grew up with in my home stake got into drugs, ended up homeless and then

creameryon9th

7/19/21 5:46pm

Assuming she was murdered, a neighbor girl went missing about 40 years ago and

firstclass

7/19/21 5:48pm

No but I used to work with a woman who killed her ex's new girlfriend, and another woman who came across the scene

Clark Addison

7/19/21 5:48pm

Yes, my grandpa was shot in middle of day outside a bank for a measly $400 he had just withdrawn by complete stranger.

opside

7/19/21 5:49pm

This is awful

macdizzle

7/20/21 8:55am

This guy did some handyman work for my dads company

UNLVcougar

7/19/21 5:51pm

RE: POLL: Do you personally know someone who was murdered?

CougarTwins

7/19/21 5:52pm

My neighbors wife died after being sick for months. Turns out her husband was

ChiCityCoug

7/19/21 5:54pm

Sounds just like a situation I'm aware of as well. Do you happen to live in Orem?

BlueBlood94

7/19/21 6:29pm

Yup that’s where it happened. My family only lived there for 3 years while I was

ChiCityCoug

7/19/21 6:40pm

Was there a dateline/ 20/20 about that? Sounds familiar

ponys

7/19/21 6:31pm

Now that you say that I think there was. But I can’t be sure.

ChiCityCoug

7/19/21 6:41pm

There was. It's been featured on a couple shows, actually. The murder of Michele MacNeill. Here's an international story

BlueBlood94

7/20/21 12:30pm

It seems like that show also pointed out that he had cheated his way

AZ Coug

7/20/21 2:50pm

I'm from Orem and vaguely remember hearing about this. Remind me where in town

Penske Material

7/19/21 6:48pm

Based on my incredible memory of knowing my old house address it looks like the

ChiCityCoug

7/19/21 7:09pm

That's what I thought, a few blocks east of Lakeridge.

Penske Material

7/19/21 7:14pm

After consulting with my older siblings I got some of the details incorrect.

ChiCityCoug

7/20/21 1:18pm

My aunt was murdered, but it was before I was born. I grew up with a kid who was

Cosmo's Uncle

7/19/21 5:55pm

Here's a wikipedia article on the guy who murdered my aunt. He killed at least

Cosmo's Uncle

7/19/21 6:13pm

That last name is close to Bundy (Ted Bundy).

84 natlchamps

7/19/21 6:15pm

Sorry for your loss.

84 natlchamps

7/22/21 2:57pm

My dad's sister died a suspicious death back in the 70s

MrClark

7/19/21 5:59pm

A kid/neighbor/sometime friend I grew up with was murdered in prison. He was a kid who always got what he wanted from

specsauce

7/19/21 6:00pm

Yes. My wife's cousin was murdered while she slept at a friends house.

VACOUGFAN

7/19/21 6:03pm

A lady my mom used to visit teach was murdered. She was pregnant and some crazy lady cut the baby out of her.

bag

7/19/21 6:07pm

RE: A lady my mom used to visit teach was murdered. She was pregnant and some crazy lady cut the baby out of her.

bag

7/19/21 6:09pm

Not anymore 😉

mudpupper

7/19/21 6:10pm

Maxi Kleber

NorthernLight

7/19/21 6:11pm

One of my friends moms was the victim in a murder-suicide

Probable Sacko

7/19/21 6:15pm

One of my former young men is in Jail for attempted murder

themathbook

7/19/21 6:19pm

The BYU professor murdered in his home lived in my ward.

Busting Coveys

7/19/21 6:25pm

Was that the one where the killers were after his guns but the police implicated family members at first?

sethj250

7/19/21 11:22pm

Yes. His son and daughter in law spent time in jail wrongly accused.

Busting Coveys

7/20/21 12:21am

A couple of kids from my high school who had been in some of my classes, in

Man Bat

7/19/21 6:27pm

I didn’t know her, but my MIL’s sister was murdered at her apartment at Ricks College by a mentally unstable stalker.

Trent

7/19/21 6:27pm

Kiplyn Davis is my niece. Never recovered but assumed murdered.

Eggguy

7/19/21 6:29pm

Neighbor girl I knew growing up. Got into drugs…murdered by her boyfriend. Then

DwigtA2RM

7/19/21 6:29pm

Our neighbors mother was murdered when she was young

BYU Fan

7/19/21 6:30pm

Yes, I knew two of the Hi-Fi Shop murder victims

AZ Coug

7/19/21 6:32pm

Three, off the top of my head.

Homercles

7/19/21 6:33pm

My neighbor was killed by another neighbor during a domestic dispute.

kcca

7/19/21 6:36pm

A couple:

HandwovenBox

7/19/21 6:42pm

My family ( mostly parents and older siblings) are close friends with

Rivers Cuomo

7/19/21 6:49pm

BYU engineering professor of mine

RoamingCoug

7/19/21 6:50pm

We were in the same ward in Payson.

Busting Coveys

7/19/21 6:53pm

The oldest cold case in Utah was a distant relative, though I admit I didn't

Penske Material

7/19/21 6:53pm

Yup. My college geography professor

Bovine University

7/19/21 7:02pm

I served my mission in Centra America, so unfortunately quite a few people

BigT801

7/19/21 7:29pm

We also have some close friends whose brother was the victim of a serial killer

BigT801

7/19/21 7:30pm

Girl in my 6th grade class apparently got in a fight where the other girl

thewaterboy

7/19/21 8:00pm

RE: POLL: Do you personally know someone who was murdered?

Jimo Dashen

7/19/21 8:05pm

Yes. Cousin. Back in 1988. It was on unsolved mysteries

Mathew

7/19/21 8:44pm

I've posted about it on here before but at my school February 3rd 2020 someone

FieroCoug

7/19/21 8:46pm

Not personally. But a daughter of one of my colleagues was murdered by her boyfriend and then he killed

Adrielle

7/19/21 9:01pm

Too many. A friend in third grade had her father kill their mother. Another

P-Widdy

7/19/21 10:40pm

This happened literally next door to my house when I was 8 years old...

jaromp

7/19/21 10:52pm

Yeah, A member operated a ghetto mart, held up, refused to pay, shot for $13, &

thecthdox

7/19/21 11:22pm

Lawyer I worked with in the Salt Lake Legal Defender's was murdered in Portland

gilbertatty

7/20/21 7:58am

A guy I knew was a fairly significant leader in the Middle East. He was

macdizzle

7/20/21 8:54am

It would probably take you like 600 pages to tell that whole story.

ChiCityCoug

7/20/21 8:56am

Does having 6 kids in your high school kill themselves Count? Suicide High

CariocaCoug

7/20/21 10:09am

Knew 2 and know the father of a famous Utah murderer - Hacking

NYC and Japan

7/20/21 10:51am

A kid I grew up with all through school was murdered on Halloween 1997.

BE-WHY-YOU

7/20/21 2:08pm

Didn't know them, but a guy shot his wife, daughter and self in our neighborhood

TailgateU

7/20/21 2:39pm

I knew bookseller Sherry Black fairly well. She was a colleague and a nice lady

osbooks

7/20/21 4:40pm

Also good to finally have a suspect arrested in the case

osbooks

7/20/21 4:41pm

Girl in my middle school, her siblings and mom

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