Toyota has been doing hybrids for a long time now starting with the Prius. It’s mature, solid tech.

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Jan 24, 2022
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I'm a crazy for cooling off on electric cars?

byujacob

1/24/22 9:02am

I agree

PizzaPipeline

1/24/22 9:04am

Lack of maintenance is another bonus I’m not sure what Ford’s EV maintenance is

franklyvulgar

1/24/22 9:08am

So just like my iPhone battery 🙄

kotacoug

1/24/22 9:19am

The plug in hybrids are appealing to me

Gustav

1/24/22 9:08am

The knock on plug-in hybrids is having the complexity of two drive systems.

FatThor

1/24/22 9:16am

Toyota has been doing hybrids for a long time now starting with the Prius. It’s mature, solid tech.

Cougar-Duck

1/24/22 9:19am

What are you using the car for?

Blue for Life

1/24/22 9:10am

The problem for me is that it becomes more or less a single purpose car

Skeptical Optimist

1/24/22 9:20am

I've done 7 hour road trips twice in the Model 3 and that's about the limit

byujdmba

1/24/22 10:20am

Do a full cost/benefit analysis. Being cool isn't the same as being smart

Nat Gas Man

1/24/22 9:11am

I know someone who has a model Y with 20K miles and it’s appreciated 7K

franklyvulgar

1/24/22 9:32am

Time to charge is a real thing but the cost to install a charger is meaningless

FatThor

1/24/22 9:14am

I guess it depends on your use. For me it makes a lot of sense and I can't wait

boorad

1/24/22 9:17am

Just got rid of mine. I’ve posted a couple times on it but real world range

cougfanz

1/24/22 9:18am

Wow I wonder what the AC would do driving from AZ tonSan Diego in the middle of

kotacoug

1/24/22 9:21am

I didn’t see nearly the same drop with AC but did see a 10% reduction in miles

cougfanz

1/24/22 10:57am

The batteries in a Tesla are significantly more efficient when it is warm- seems weird but it is true.

scall

1/24/22 11:08am

Yea to be fair I didn’t really understand the benefit/requirement of preheating

cougfanz

1/24/22 12:57pm

How long does that take if it's really cold outside?

byujacob

1/24/22 1:03pm

I don't know, it is never really cold in AZ. I just set mine to be ready to go by 6:30 a.m. when I leave for work

scall

1/24/22 1:23pm

What was the software UI experience like for you? I’ve heard Taycan

franklyvulgar

1/24/22 9:28am

Yea, the updates required dropping off at the dealer and you’re right

cougfanz

1/24/22 11:02am

I also heard from a Porsche tech that the EV savings people see from Tesla isn’t

franklyvulgar

1/24/22 11:36am

True.. and there’s at least some hope that Tesla’s replacement batteries

cougfanz

1/24/22 12:55pm

It’s funny—the Rivian looks like the much ridiculed Honda Ridgeline. But because

Run-DMT

1/24/22 9:23am

They haven’t yet reached the point of full practicality, especially trucks.

Corn Pop

1/24/22 9:23am

I'm saving about $160 a month on gas costs by charging at home. I'll recover the costs on the charger in

scall

1/24/22 9:31am

I'll add that I agree it is not a road tripping car- I would never use it to do long drive on a holiday weekend, but I

scall

1/24/22 9:34am

Toyota Camrys, 4Runners, Tacomas, etc die in 8 yrs?

Run-DMT

1/24/22 9:35am

No but it is when major repairs typically start being required. And the battery life on tesla's does appear to be

scall

1/24/22 9:46am

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scall

1/24/22 2:45pm

My dad always used to say to never buy the first year of a model

BrewCoug

1/24/22 9:54am

I bought my 3 because I liked the car overall. Not sure the savings pencils out.

byujdmba

1/24/22 10:17am

That leaf's savings will also disappear with depreciation those don't hold value

franklyvulgar

1/24/22 10:33am

Unless you buy one that is mostly depreciated already

FatThor

1/24/22 10:43am

Depreciation isn't normal on cars right now though. You could take possession of a new Tesla and turn around and sell

scall

1/24/22 1:40pm

Depreciation was less than average on Teslas pre-COVID anyway. Battery loss...

byujdmba

1/24/22 1:55pm

8 years or 100k whatever comes first. And yes real life expectancy is looking closer to 300k or 400k.

scall

1/24/22 2:01pm

Battery life is not a concern of mine as a Tesla 3 owner.

byujdmba

1/24/22 2:09pm

That's really the way I look at it too- which is why I think the 8 year threshold isn't a big deal

scall

1/24/22 2:19pm

Plus I know I can out-accelerate 90% of the cars on the road.

byujdmba

1/24/22 2:28pm

Yep. Like I said in my first post in this thread:

scall

1/24/22 2:46pm

Which one do you have?

byujdmba

1/24/22 6:49pm

2022 M3 LR

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