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Jan 25, 2022
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krindorr
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Though I should stipulate that's the worst-case scenario and I don't think it's likely the PAC12 expands
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The PAC as we know it won’t exist in 10-12 years. If BYU joined it and when they
SouthernBlueBlood
1/25/22 12:22pm
I feel the B12 is on shakier ground, but who knows
LiveCoug
1/25/22 12:23pm
I think being tied into the eastern half of the country is a good thing. The power brokers are all out east. College
Niiineteeen84
1/25/22 12:25pm
Hard to argue otherwise when the PAC is so lowly rated as a conference and most of their stadiums in both major sports
mulletino
1/25/22 12:28pm
Getting west coasters to care about college sports will be something the PAC
benny1982
1/25/22 12:32pm
I don't think any better conferences will poach anyone left in the big 12.
FieroCoug
1/25/22 12:25pm
Only concern in my mind is the PAC12
krindorr
1/25/22 1:05pm
Though I should stipulate that's the worst-case scenario and I don't think it's likely the PAC12 expands
krindorr
1/25/22 1:26pm
I said better conferences. The pac could try to take some big 12 teams
FieroCoug
1/25/22 2:41pm
B12 is composed of solid programs committed to grid iron success with no where else to go
hdx57
1/25/22 12:48pm
A thumbs up from TNT, I have arrived!!!
hdx57
1/25/22 1:21pm
I think this depends on your viewpoint...
Waddamy
1/25/22 4:49pm
You always say that but you have no insight into why that would be… none
travelcoug
1/25/22 8:29pm
If the PAC had added BYU when they added Utah, I think they would be in a much
BYUtka
1/25/22 12:42pm
Agree
SouthernBlueBlood
1/25/22 12:45pm
Thank goodness they didn't. What a nightmare that would be. Being tied to that conference would just be a constant
YIsForBrigham
1/25/22 12:46pm
The PAC12 has some inherent disadvantages that strong leadership could have mitigated
hdx57
1/25/22 1:20pm
I can so easily see the B1G
hdx57
1/25/22 1:33pm
Getting Colorado and Nebraska back would be epic case scenario
Sic'Em Beers
1/26/22 1:29am
Nebraska is a 75% done deal
hdx57
1/26/22 8:23am
Stanford is a zero except on cougarboard. UCLA is a basketball school.
travelcoug
1/26/22 1:51am
College football as we know it as an amateur sport may not exist and BYU may face some tough choices about continuing.
PJMort
1/25/22 12:48pm
BYU fans make way too much of a few years of struggle for the P12. The P12 needs USC to resurge and all signs
TFL
1/25/22 1:02pm
lol settle down there. Utah lost 5 games in 2019 and finished unranked. Let's chill out on that one.
mulletino
1/25/22 1:05pm
5 games? I don't think so. Utah finishing the regular season at #5 is a huge indicator
TFL
1/25/22 1:10pm
Oh sorry, you only lost 3 games. So close to undefeated! I guess I was thinking about your 5 loss 2018 season
mulletino
1/25/22 1:13pm
I said it back then, the 2018 ring ceremony was a KW strategy to push the team. Yes, cringey. But effective.
TFL
1/25/22 1:26pm
....they finished 11-3 and ranked #16. This year we finished 10-3 and ranked #19
krindorr
1/25/22 1:13pm
I already corrected myself above. So you can delete your little narrative you wrote that makes you sad.
mulletino
1/25/22 1:15pm
PAC needs to get fans interested again. Empty stadiums whether due to Covid or disinterest will take more than
Soupie
1/25/22 1:23pm
Amazing how much mileage they got out of those two Oregon wins...
SageOwl
1/25/22 2:39pm
And everyone ignores that they haven't beaten a non PAC FBS team in years.
BYUtka
1/25/22 3:05pm
I think it's the opposite.
TFL
1/25/22 3:31pm
Of course you see it that way. Dismantling those PAC doesn’t appear that impressive.
Soupie
1/25/22 3:47pm
Not me. It's the people doing the rankings. AP, Coaches, CFP, Computers, Vegas, Writers for next year's preseason
TFL
1/25/22 5:38pm
Are you really hanging your hat on UCLA and Stanford?
byublue42
1/25/22 4:01pm
That was the best evidence for ranking corruption ever.
Soupie
1/25/22 4:06pm
Amen.
The_Cuss
1/25/22 5:52pm
Yes. Winning 9 out of the last 10 with an impressive MOV is why Utah
TFL
1/25/22 6:05pm
Only because they are fortuitous to be part of the worst P5 conference since the
byublue42
1/25/22 7:09pm
I think you just focus too much on the negatives for schools and conferences you don't like. What you'll see is that
TFL
1/25/22 7:26pm
No not really, I focus on what gets too much credit when it isn’t warranted
byublue42
1/25/22 8:13pm
If Oregon beat tOSU in the Shoe, why did Utah that beat Oregon twice lose to tOSU? I mean tOSU was missing many players
slatecoug
1/25/22 10:45pm
Can you explain to me how Oregon beating tOSU in week 2 meant something, but BYU beating Utah week 2 was meaningless?
zsmooth
1/26/22 3:43am
Because we all like to cherry-pick
krindorr
1/26/22 5:30am
At this point most BYU fans I know admit BYU went 5-0 against the Pac cause the Pac sucks.
zsmooth
1/26/22 7:41am
I agree with you entirely. But there is a slight difference
TFL
1/26/22 1:25pm
Meaningless to whom?
TFL
1/26/22 1:20pm
That was a lot of words to not address my question.
zsmooth
1/27/22 6:10pm
Beating a perennial, blue blood playoff team in their house, where they hadn't lost in several years is a HUGE win
TFL
1/27/22 6:32pm
Okay, so your argument is “no the Pac didn’t suck last season cause Oregon beat tOSU in the second week…
zsmooth
1/27/22 6:39pm
No. The Pac-12 sucked last year. But so did the other conferences compared to the SEC. Utah turned a mediocre
TFL
1/27/22 6:50pm
Exactly. He discounts one because of week 2 excuses, but Oregon can hang their
The_Cuss
1/27/22 7:00pm
Amen.
zsmooth
1/27/22 11:04pm
Because it's completely irrelevant. Ohio State missed the playoffs bc of that game.
TFL
1/28/22 11:43am
No, they missed the playoffs because of their loss to Michigan.
byublue42
1/28/22 11:55am
A 1-loss tOSU gets in over Cincy. See Georgia.
TFL
1/28/22 12:02pm
Here’s the bottom line for me:
zsmooth
1/27/22 6:44pm
I agree 100% with this. But don’t forget their magical season included a loss to
The_Cuss
1/27/22 7:17pm
Not a magical season. Just an awesome one for fan engagement and entertainment. Huge exposure for the program
TFL
1/27/22 7:40pm
Oh, so not wins but fan excitement. And a bunch of hypotheticals based on
The_Cuss
1/28/22 7:50am
10 wins on a rebuild year is fantastic. Playing well against a blue blood at the Rose Bowl just adds
TFL
1/28/22 11:35am
This is never ending. Again congrats on the exposure and moral wins. Scoreboard
The_Cuss
1/28/22 1:01pm
For Utah, none of that is relevant though. That's the whole point
TFL
1/27/22 7:35pm
Other times when a conference cycles up and down, it's not caused by politics.
FieroCoug
1/25/22 2:42pm
BYU would quit the PAC on moral grounds w/in 3 years
Dr MoBYU
1/25/22 2:47pm
BYU fans shouldn’t be so happy to dance on the grave of the PAC-12
spinner
1/25/22 4:09pm
I've been arguing this for a while
krindorr
1/25/22 4:45pm
This is why the B1G will poach the PAC. Take their very best and leave the rest
Bluforever
1/25/22 5:50pm
If the Big 12 takes Oregon, Washington, UCLA, USC (for example)
krindorr
1/25/22 7:11pm
Would this be terrible? I think it would
Sic'Em Beers
1/26/22 1:45am
Could see it going a variety of ways
krindorr
1/26/22 6:33am
I would think it first goes to P4 with the PAC carved up into the BIG and B12
Nat Gas Man
1/26/22 6:02am
There's some things about that which just don't add up
krindorr
1/26/22 9:02am
All we have to do is “Just Win Baby”
Cosmo4life
1/25/22 8:30pm
Being in the Big 12 will ensure a spot for us when the whole system is overhauled.
Sooner Cougar
1/26/22 1:28am
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