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Apr 29, 2016
3:12:23pm

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Abe Froman

Previous username: Rise and Shout
Bio page: Abe Froman
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
Last login: May 15, 2024
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RE: Do you think girls are investigated because of the rape? Really?

The Dangler

4/29/16 11:15am

Great post. You should post more.

Funke

4/29/16 11:25am

If a rape has occurred, the right thing for the HCO is to sprint the other

donnerstag

4/29/16 11:27am

HC enforcement is fundamentally flawed and needs to be changed. The rape

boogers

4/29/16 11:31am

Expulsion should only come when it is abundantly clear that changing their ways

concolor couguar

4/29/16 11:34am

Completely agree.

boogers

4/29/16 11:35am

I agree with that, and I think a lot of people would. Unfortunately, it would

Jay Rick

4/29/16 11:39am

If BYU takes that path and doesn't enforce the HC

donnerstag

4/29/16 11:37am

I didn't say don't enforce it. The way it is enforced right now is wrong.

boogers

4/29/16 11:39am

Fine, as long as the HCO stops kicking kids out for having consensual sex.

boogers

4/29/16 11:28am

The HCO is in a big pickle because, mixed in with real criminal activity, are

CMM Cougar

4/29/16 1:19pm

Genuine question here because I am a little torn on the subject.

blueaussie

4/29/16 11:28am

Well you are saying that being raped is not the fault of the victim, but as the

JohnnyB

4/29/16 12:03pm

happy to answer

The Dangler

4/29/16 12:10pm

Absolutely agree with your comments.

blueaussie

4/29/16 12:13pm

Fundamental flaw of your posts:Assumption that the woman cant possibly be lying

GritHead

4/29/16 1:29pm

Ok let me ask it a little more simply.

blueaussie

4/29/16 12:12pm

No and No, but 100% HC justice isn't really that important in these cases.

swingcat

4/29/16 12:24pm

There is a legitimate question here. If I go into an area I know is a high crime area and am robbed and beaten, do I

Rhino84

4/29/16 12:40pm

Fantastic post. I liked it all except:

BringYourUltimate

4/29/16 11:28am

The heart of the adulterer was discernible

donnerstag

4/29/16 11:30am

Lucky for us, He's ultimately our judge

Saxa

4/29/16 11:50am

The HC office/Title IX office are not in the business of ensuring repentance

SJS

4/29/16 11:43am

How do you know Jesus did not forgive her?

Saxa

4/29/16 12:06pm

Talmage points the same thing out in Jesus the Christ

Colorado

4/29/16 12:16pm

I don't disagree..

Saxa

4/29/16 1:04pm

I think this is a good take on the story that applies to the HCO situation as

concolor couguar

4/29/16 1:08pm

yep, love that

Saxa

4/29/16 1:31pm

Great take! (Unless the woman is not telling the truth).

GritHead

4/29/16 1:35pm

Amen

BringYourUltimate

4/29/16 4:41pm

Probably the best explanation of this viewpoint that I've seen on here.

Jay Rick

4/29/16 11:29am

I agree with your points. I think it's also hard to know what's going on

slappy

4/29/16 11:30am

This is exactly right.

Six Foot Seven

4/29/16 11:39am

true

The Dangler

4/29/16 12:16pm

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Abe Froman

4/29/16 3:12pm

The problem is that the girl who has become the face of the issue is not a good

bluebloodedcoug

4/29/16 4:39pm

RE: The problem is that the girl who has become the face of the issue is not a

Jay Rick

4/29/16 4:57pm

Completely agree

bluebloodedcoug

4/29/16 5:14pm

You would think if that is the case, they would release a statement saying so.

Y2k

4/29/16 7:51pm

What's your background or source for this info?

KingDave

4/29/16 11:32am

Unfortunately, through numerous biblical translations, John 8:11 has lost

Scratch

4/29/16 11:50am

ha ha

The Dangler

4/29/16 12:21pm

One major quibble (is that a thing?): You say the HCO shouldn't

gwalker

4/29/16 12:05pm

RE: One major quibble (is that a thing?): You say the HCO shouldn't

The Dangler

4/29/16 12:21pm

To the extent we're dealing with "petty sins" I agree. What about when

gwalker

4/29/16 1:36pm

I wonder who gave this a thumbs down?

RichieRich

4/29/16 12:39pm

What should happen to the alleged rapist? Does he get the same consideration?

GritHead

4/29/16 1:16pm

good point

The Dangler

4/29/16 1:52pm

Yep, it definitely happens. No easy answers. Point of agreement is the HCO needs

GritHead

4/29/16 2:03pm

Plagiarism and she even copyrighted the statements you stole

concolor couguar

4/29/16 1:58pm

Ann doesnt mind if you lift paragraphs for message boards

GritHead

4/29/16 2:04pm

and not give her credit? Sorry plagiarist I dont buy it

concolor couguar

4/29/16 2:05pm

Like I care what you buy.

GritHead

4/29/16 2:06pm

Multiple women have come forward in this

concolor couguar

4/29/16 2:06pm

As to your last sentence in paragraph 4

8theU

4/29/16 2:09pm

RE: Do you think girls are investigated because of the rape? Really?

Kuga

4/30/16 9:26pm

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