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Apr 29, 2016
4:39:02pm

bluebloodedcoug All-American

The problem is that the girl who has become the face of the issue is not a good

case to hold up. There are girls who didn't break the honor code and were date raped. They were investigated by the honor code office and had their records put on hold until they could prove their innocence.

However, the girl who has become the face of the issue had lots of other problems.

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bluebloodedcoug

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RE: Do you think girls are investigated because of the rape? Really?

The Dangler

4/29/16 11:15am

Great post. You should post more.

Funke

4/29/16 11:25am

If a rape has occurred, the right thing for the HCO is to sprint the other

donnerstag

4/29/16 11:27am

HC enforcement is fundamentally flawed and needs to be changed. The rape

boogers

4/29/16 11:31am

Expulsion should only come when it is abundantly clear that changing their ways

concolor couguar

4/29/16 11:34am

Completely agree.

boogers

4/29/16 11:35am

I agree with that, and I think a lot of people would. Unfortunately, it would

Jay Rick

4/29/16 11:39am

If BYU takes that path and doesn't enforce the HC

donnerstag

4/29/16 11:37am

I didn't say don't enforce it. The way it is enforced right now is wrong.

boogers

4/29/16 11:39am

Fine, as long as the HCO stops kicking kids out for having consensual sex.

boogers

4/29/16 11:28am

The HCO is in a big pickle because, mixed in with real criminal activity, are

CMM Cougar

4/29/16 1:19pm

Genuine question here because I am a little torn on the subject.

blueaussie

4/29/16 11:28am

Well you are saying that being raped is not the fault of the victim, but as the

JohnnyB

4/29/16 12:03pm

happy to answer

The Dangler

4/29/16 12:10pm

Absolutely agree with your comments.

blueaussie

4/29/16 12:13pm

Fundamental flaw of your posts:Assumption that the woman cant possibly be lying

GritHead

4/29/16 1:29pm

Ok let me ask it a little more simply.

blueaussie

4/29/16 12:12pm

No and No, but 100% HC justice isn't really that important in these cases.

swingcat

4/29/16 12:24pm

There is a legitimate question here. If I go into an area I know is a high crime area and am robbed and beaten, do I

Rhino84

4/29/16 12:40pm

Fantastic post. I liked it all except:

BringYourUltimate

4/29/16 11:28am

The heart of the adulterer was discernible

donnerstag

4/29/16 11:30am

Lucky for us, He's ultimately our judge

Saxa

4/29/16 11:50am

The HC office/Title IX office are not in the business of ensuring repentance

SJS

4/29/16 11:43am

How do you know Jesus did not forgive her?

Saxa

4/29/16 12:06pm

Talmage points the same thing out in Jesus the Christ

Colorado

4/29/16 12:16pm

I don't disagree..

Saxa

4/29/16 1:04pm

I think this is a good take on the story that applies to the HCO situation as

concolor couguar

4/29/16 1:08pm

yep, love that

Saxa

4/29/16 1:31pm

Great take! (Unless the woman is not telling the truth).

GritHead

4/29/16 1:35pm

Amen

BringYourUltimate

4/29/16 4:41pm

Probably the best explanation of this viewpoint that I've seen on here.

Jay Rick

4/29/16 11:29am

I agree with your points. I think it's also hard to know what's going on

slappy

4/29/16 11:30am

This is exactly right.

4/29/16 11:39am

true

The Dangler

4/29/16 12:16pm

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Abe Froman

4/29/16 3:12pm

The problem is that the girl who has become the face of the issue is not a good

bluebloodedcoug

4/29/16 4:39pm

RE: The problem is that the girl who has become the face of the issue is not a

Jay Rick

4/29/16 4:57pm

Completely agree

bluebloodedcoug

4/29/16 5:14pm

You would think if that is the case, they would release a statement saying so.

Y2k

4/29/16 7:51pm

What's your background or source for this info?

KingDave

4/29/16 11:32am

Unfortunately, through numerous biblical translations, John 8:11 has lost

Scratch

4/29/16 11:50am

ha ha

The Dangler

4/29/16 12:21pm

One major quibble (is that a thing?): You say the HCO shouldn't

gwalker

4/29/16 12:05pm

RE: One major quibble (is that a thing?): You say the HCO shouldn't

The Dangler

4/29/16 12:21pm

To the extent we're dealing with "petty sins" I agree. What about when

gwalker

4/29/16 1:36pm

I wonder who gave this a thumbs down?

RichieRich

4/29/16 12:39pm

What should happen to the alleged rapist? Does he get the same consideration?

GritHead

4/29/16 1:16pm

good point

The Dangler

4/29/16 1:52pm

Yep, it definitely happens. No easy answers. Point of agreement is the HCO needs

GritHead

4/29/16 2:03pm

Plagiarism and she even copyrighted the statements you stole

concolor couguar

4/29/16 1:58pm

Ann doesnt mind if you lift paragraphs for message boards

GritHead

4/29/16 2:04pm

and not give her credit? Sorry plagiarist I dont buy it

concolor couguar

4/29/16 2:05pm

Like I care what you buy.

GritHead

4/29/16 2:06pm

Multiple women have come forward in this

concolor couguar

4/29/16 2:06pm

As to your last sentence in paragraph 4

8theU

4/29/16 2:09pm

RE: Do you think girls are investigated because of the rape? Really?

Kuga

4/30/16 9:26pm

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