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A pretty fair (IMO) read about what happened to
CMuehle
2/21/18 9:17am
BYU was shortsighted to think that the MWC wouldn't invite WAC teams to the
mudpupper
2/21/18 9:21am
yet another example of byu misreading the room.
johnnycarson
2/21/18 9:24am
You would think somebody had to bring that up.
mudpupper
2/21/18 9:27am
Seems to me it was pretty clear they knew they that would happen but the thought
RdF3
2/21/18 9:28am
It was very shortsighted of BYU. Nevada wants to be with UNLV? Fresno with SDSU?
Richbyu
2/21/18 9:36am
I think BYU overestimated its value to the WAC.
mudpupper
2/21/18 9:42am
if there is a miscalculation to be made, byu admin will make it.
johnnycarson
2/21/18 9:32am
It was a bait and switch by Fresno and Nevada. They and USU were the schools
NewMexiCoug
2/21/18 11:25am
Part of that was driven by the big money buyout clause.
Eddie
2/21/18 9:28am
Yep, $5M just wasn't enough to keep schools in place when a superior conference
Scratch
2/21/18 9:30am
FSU hadn't even signed the $5 million buyout agreement yet.
CougarThug
2/21/18 9:23pm
Classic projection. BYU wouldn't pay a $5mil fine to get out of a deal.
Art Director
2/21/18 9:41am
Why would BYU assume teams would leave the WAC?
Cougar Insider
2/21/18 9:56am
I think BYU didn't quite understand the magnitude of the changing conference
mudpupper
2/21/18 10:00am
They had a scheduling agreement with the WAC though.
Cougar Insider
2/21/18 10:01am
BYU knew what could possibly happen. It simply came down to Fresno and Nevada
Game Changer
2/21/18 1:06pm
The MWC wouldn't even invite Boise until it was too late.
boscatar
2/21/18 10:14am
^^^Bingo^^^ MWC invited BSU five days before the Pac-10 publicly invited Utah.
CougarThug
2/21/18 9:34pm
that story brought up some old memories I forgot. I still think indy
idacoug
2/21/18 9:39am
The thing that is hurting BYU Indy is not having 3-5 annual "rivalry" opponents.
Richbyu
2/21/18 9:46am
I think we should get Hawaii annually and try for TCU, Houston or SMU
boscatar
2/21/18 10:30am
BYU signed a yearly rivalry deal with Hawaii when we first went Indy
mannheimadler
2/21/18 10:41am
Wish we could revisit that. We need that deal again.
Richbyu
2/21/18 10:47am
Didn't Chow blow that up?
boscatar
2/21/18 10:58am
TCU will not agree to a long term series
CougarVeteran
2/21/18 12:03pm
I believe it was a knee jerk reaction to Utah going to the P12 and BYU and TH
franklyvulgar
2/21/18 9:50am
BYUTV and Indy were in the works well before. Utah to PAC was the catalyst
boscatar
2/21/18 10:32am
RE: that story brought up some old memories I forgot. I still think indy
CougarThug
2/21/18 9:37pm
Stupid part: Most of this could have been avoided if the MWC gave BYU third tier rights to home games
HuskerFan2
2/21/18 9:41am
Yup. It's funny they gave Boise everything they swore they'd never give BYU.
Art Director
2/21/18 9:42am
You have this wrong.
Richbyu
2/21/18 9:54am
Does point 2 really matter? They still gave in to BSU.
Scooter
2/21/18 10:19am
Yes. But I guess we could rejoin the MWC and get Boise's deal right now....
Richbyu
2/21/18 10:43am
This is how I remember it, as well.
Everyman
2/21/18 10:28am
And that was only possible because after BYU left, the Mountain folded, so no more Comcast deal.
Turnpike Lane
2/21/18 10:56am
We don't know this for sure
CougarVeteran
2/21/18 11:19am
The Comcast/CBS contract was renegotiated after it became apparent the MWC was on the verge of collapse
HuskerFan2
2/21/18 11:20am
It we renegotiated because of BYU and Utah
CougarVeteran
2/21/18 11:41am
Sounds about right.
HuskerFan2
2/21/18 1:34pm
Didnt
Coogar2
2/21/18 12:19pm
This whole timeline is complete garbage...
Coug
2/21/18 10:05am
This is much closer to the real timeline ^^^^
NewMexiCoug
2/21/18 11:13am
You make an important point that I try to remind of. BIG EAST offered.
CosmoK
2/21/18 11:20am
That Big East invite came as the result of the BIGXII...
Coug
2/21/18 11:47am
^^^^This
ABCoug
2/21/18 8:30pm
The miscalculation was the strength of MWC with BSU.
CosmoK
2/21/18 10:07am
Indy was absolutely the right move at the time. How it has shaken out can paint BYU in a bad light, but it's
Bob Vance
2/21/18 11:30am
I think this is what a lot of people ignore, BYU and the MWC did not get along
CougarVeteran
2/21/18 11:44am
And BYU paid the conference bills for years without receiving much benefit.
TailgateU
2/21/18 11:57am
Respectfully disagree. Indy was a knee jerk reaction to Utah joining P12.
ethanator
2/21/18 11:56am
BYU had just finished their broadcast facility
byukarl
2/21/18 12:10pm
Disagree. I hear that term used a lot, mostly by
rocker
2/21/18 1:26pm
I find the timing of the move interesting if it had pre-dated Utah's move
franklyvulgar
2/21/18 2:53pm
I don't think you guys are disagreeing with each other. I think rocker is just
Scratch
2/21/18 3:06pm
Agreed
franklyvulgar
2/21/18 3:18pm
Didnt BYU try to cut a deal with MWC like they tried with the WAC, football INDY
Coogar2
2/21/18 12:21pm
It sounds like they did, and the MWC balked at that (which is understandable).
Game Changer
2/21/18 1:07pm
We already knew Hair was a devil. This showed us Fresno and Nevada were too
Cougarclaw
2/21/18 12:45pm
I was really surprised we scheduled them as quickly as we did.
rocker
2/21/18 1:30pm
Me too
Hang10
2/21/18 2:00pm
I was NOT a fan.
Cougarclaw
2/21/18 2:22pm
Thanks for the research. This helps.
UofUCoug
2/21/18 4:45pm
interesting read. Amazing Hair has a job
byu1
2/21/18 5:38pm
One thing for sure, Utah left the MWC first. They started it
Coogar2
2/21/18 8:05pm
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