BYU signed a yearly rivalry deal with Hawaii when we first went Indy

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Feb 21, 2018
10:41:13am

mannheimadler All-American

Hawaii backed out of it. We had a 10-game deal, similar to the Boise deal.

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mannheimadler

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A pretty fair (IMO) read about what happened to

CMuehle

2/21/18 9:17am

BYU was shortsighted to think that the MWC wouldn't invite WAC teams to the

mudpupper

2/21/18 9:21am

yet another example of byu misreading the room.

johnnycarson

2/21/18 9:24am

You would think somebody had to bring that up.

mudpupper

2/21/18 9:27am

Seems to me it was pretty clear they knew they that would happen but the thought

RdF3

2/21/18 9:28am

It was very shortsighted of BYU. Nevada wants to be with UNLV? Fresno with SDSU?

Richbyu

2/21/18 9:36am

I think BYU overestimated its value to the WAC.

mudpupper

2/21/18 9:42am

if there is a miscalculation to be made, byu admin will make it.

johnnycarson

2/21/18 9:32am

It was a bait and switch by Fresno and Nevada. They and USU were the schools

NewMexiCoug

2/21/18 11:25am

Part of that was driven by the big money buyout clause.

Eddie

2/21/18 9:28am

Yep, $5M just wasn't enough to keep schools in place when a superior conference

Scratch

2/21/18 9:30am

FSU hadn't even signed the $5 million buyout agreement yet.

CougarThug

2/21/18 9:23pm

Classic projection. BYU wouldn't pay a $5mil fine to get out of a deal.

Art Director

2/21/18 9:41am

Why would BYU assume teams would leave the WAC?

Cougar Insider

2/21/18 9:56am

I think BYU didn't quite understand the magnitude of the changing conference

mudpupper

2/21/18 10:00am

They had a scheduling agreement with the WAC though.

Cougar Insider

2/21/18 10:01am

BYU knew what could possibly happen. It simply came down to Fresno and Nevada

Game Changer

2/21/18 1:06pm

The MWC wouldn't even invite Boise until it was too late.

boscatar

2/21/18 10:14am

^^^Bingo^^^ MWC invited BSU five days before the Pac-10 publicly invited Utah.

CougarThug

2/21/18 9:34pm

that story brought up some old memories I forgot. I still think indy

idacoug

2/21/18 9:39am

The thing that is hurting BYU Indy is not having 3-5 annual "rivalry" opponents.

Richbyu

2/21/18 9:46am

I think we should get Hawaii annually and try for TCU, Houston or SMU

boscatar

2/21/18 10:30am

BYU signed a yearly rivalry deal with Hawaii when we first went Indy

mannheimadler

2/21/18 10:41am

Wish we could revisit that. We need that deal again.

Richbyu

2/21/18 10:47am

Didn't Chow blow that up?

boscatar

2/21/18 10:58am

TCU will not agree to a long term series

CougarVeteran

2/21/18 12:03pm

I believe it was a knee jerk reaction to Utah going to the P12 and BYU and TH

franklyvulgar

2/21/18 9:50am

BYUTV and Indy were in the works well before. Utah to PAC was the catalyst

boscatar

2/21/18 10:32am

RE: that story brought up some old memories I forgot. I still think indy

CougarThug

2/21/18 9:37pm

Stupid part: Most of this could have been avoided if the MWC gave BYU third tier rights to home games

HuskerFan2

2/21/18 9:41am

Yup. It's funny they gave Boise everything they swore they'd never give BYU.

Art Director

2/21/18 9:42am

You have this wrong.

Richbyu

2/21/18 9:54am

Does point 2 really matter? They still gave in to BSU.

Scooter

2/21/18 10:19am

Yes. But I guess we could rejoin the MWC and get Boise's deal right now....

Richbyu

2/21/18 10:43am

This is how I remember it, as well.

Everyman

2/21/18 10:28am

And that was only possible because after BYU left, the Mountain folded, so no more Comcast deal.

Turnpike Lane

2/21/18 10:56am

We don't know this for sure

CougarVeteran

2/21/18 11:19am

The Comcast/CBS contract was renegotiated after it became apparent the MWC was on the verge of collapse

HuskerFan2

2/21/18 11:20am

It we renegotiated because of BYU and Utah

CougarVeteran

2/21/18 11:41am

Sounds about right.

HuskerFan2

2/21/18 1:34pm

Didnt

Coogar2

2/21/18 12:19pm

This whole timeline is complete garbage...

Coug

2/21/18 10:05am

This is much closer to the real timeline ^^^^

NewMexiCoug

2/21/18 11:13am

You make an important point that I try to remind of. BIG EAST offered.

CosmoK

2/21/18 11:20am

That Big East invite came as the result of the BIGXII...

Coug

2/21/18 11:47am

^^^^This

ABCoug

2/21/18 8:30pm

The miscalculation was the strength of MWC with BSU.

CosmoK

2/21/18 10:07am

Indy was absolutely the right move at the time. How it has shaken out can paint BYU in a bad light, but it's

Bob Vance

2/21/18 11:30am

I think this is what a lot of people ignore, BYU and the MWC did not get along

CougarVeteran

2/21/18 11:44am

And BYU paid the conference bills for years without receiving much benefit.

TailgateU

2/21/18 11:57am

Respectfully disagree. Indy was a knee jerk reaction to Utah joining P12.

ethanator

2/21/18 11:56am

BYU had just finished their broadcast facility

byukarl

2/21/18 12:10pm

Disagree. I hear that term used a lot, mostly by

rocker

2/21/18 1:26pm

I find the timing of the move interesting if it had pre-dated Utah's move

franklyvulgar

2/21/18 2:53pm

I don't think you guys are disagreeing with each other. I think rocker is just

Scratch

2/21/18 3:06pm

Agreed

franklyvulgar

2/21/18 3:18pm

Didnt BYU try to cut a deal with MWC like they tried with the WAC, football INDY

Coogar2

2/21/18 12:21pm

It sounds like they did, and the MWC balked at that (which is understandable).

Game Changer

2/21/18 1:07pm

We already knew Hair was a devil. This showed us Fresno and Nevada were too

Cougarclaw

2/21/18 12:45pm

I was really surprised we scheduled them as quickly as we did.

rocker

2/21/18 1:30pm

Me too

Hang10

2/21/18 2:00pm

I was NOT a fan.

Cougarclaw

2/21/18 2:22pm

Thanks for the research. This helps.

UofUCoug

2/21/18 4:45pm

interesting read. Amazing Hair has a job

byu1

2/21/18 5:38pm

One thing for sure, Utah left the MWC first. They started it

Coogar2

2/21/18 8:05pm

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