Don’t know what state you are in, but just as a point of information in Utah

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Apr 26, 2018
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teachers hired after 2010 do not get pensions.

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Capricious Cougar

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I’m an engineer. I feel like I’m underpaid. I have a couple anesthesiologist

silk

4/26/18 10:22am

If you make 1/3 what anesthieslolo whatever, congrats. That's good money

TNT

4/26/18 10:23am

TNT thinks $6/hr is "good money".

SandYFan

4/26/18 10:30am

Ha! No. $10/hr is good money

TNT

4/26/18 10:37am

I stand corrected!

SandYFan

4/26/18 10:38am

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pegushin

4/26/18 10:23am

Not sure whether to take this post seriously or not...

Bradleyd16

4/26/18 10:31am

Seriously. Is this some kind of reverse or something?

SouthernCoug

4/26/18 11:06am

It’s making fun of teachers.

Capricious Cougar

4/26/18 11:10am

I thought it was mocking doctors

IGlowInTheDark

4/26/18 2:36pm

You should have gotten into a gov subsidized field

Plato

4/26/18 10:33am

So you're an anesthesiologist? Nice humble brag.

Turnpike Lane

4/26/18 10:34am

I don’t know why we begrudge people for asking

Cashmeousside

4/26/18 10:36am

I used to think doctors were over paid. Then I got into medical school, I am

powerbait

4/27/18 12:05pm

Doctors are definitely not overpaid imo. Deserve every penny.

Capricious Cougar

4/27/18 3:16pm

It's almost like supply and demand dictate wages.

Gil Buckman

4/26/18 10:36am

at least you qualify for the QBI deduction... anesthesiologist won't

byuprof

4/26/18 10:37am

I agree that engineers are undervalued and underpaid in our society.

sanitarium

4/26/18 10:43am

You get paid what the market determines you are worth

Kerbouchard

4/26/18 10:51am

Kind of. Unless the laws interfere with the free market.

sanitarium

4/26/18 10:54am

Of course there are exceptions

Kerbouchard

4/26/18 11:13am

*CAEDM

supertux

4/26/18 10:52am

Ha! I stand corrected. In my defense, I have attempted to block those days out

silk

4/26/18 10:55am

Only reason I remember it is because I used to work for CAEDM

supertux

4/26/18 10:56am

You should have gone into elementary education instead.

CougarThug

4/26/18 11:04am

If being an anesthesiologist isn’t so hard then why didn’t you do that so you

coug555

4/26/18 11:06am

Actually, that’s exactly my point.

silk

4/26/18 11:45am

Ahhh...I get it.

SouthernCoug

4/26/18 12:13pm

Don’t know what state you are in, but just as a point of information in Utah

Capricious Cougar

4/26/18 12:27pm

A masters is two years and medical school and residency is usually 7-8. So, not

StraightOuttaOrem

4/26/18 11:56am

If engineers start making about 30K a year you may have an argument.

Nagurski

4/26/18 12:52pm

So teachers can only compare themselves to professions starting at 30k. Gotcha

silk

4/26/18 1:37pm

Since that is where they start, yes.

Nagurski

4/27/18 9:16am

The specific dollar amounts involved are wholly beside the point.

Gil Buckman

4/26/18 1:52pm

The issue I have with your's and Silk's arguement is that you think the answer

Nagurski

4/27/18 9:16am

I can entirely buy into your approach which has solid economic underpinnings

Gil Buckman

4/27/18 12:44pm

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ditch

4/26/18 2:25pm

The ones who should feel bad are the nurse anesthetists. They do the same thing

TailgateU

4/26/18 2:55pm

Not really. I'm a nurse that got my BSN and debated what to do for grad school,

Ernie

4/26/18 3:35pm

So what is the difference in function? If I'm running a hospital, why prefer one

TailgateU

4/26/18 4:31pm

Yes, one does significantly more than the other.

IGlowInTheDark

4/26/18 4:38pm

What procedure can an anesthesiologist perform that a CRNA cannot?

TailgateU

4/26/18 4:43pm

We talking legally, skillfully, or safely?

IGlowInTheDark

4/26/18 5:03pm

I'm not a hospital administrator, and am genuinely curious. Are you in the

TailgateU

4/26/18 6:29pm

What are the effective differences?

IGlowInTheDark

4/26/18 7:01pm

TBH, most of our issues are simple enough that an MD is not necessary. NPs and

TailgateU

4/27/18 7:18am

What is your background? Asking sincerely as I’m curious how you arrived at

SaturdaySpecialDay

4/27/18 7:57am

I'm in academia and have done some research into the health industry, but my

TailgateU

4/27/18 8:38am

My experience

SaturdaySpecialDay

4/27/18 3:14pm

Thank you. I appreciate the explanation. I wish we could see more PAs and NPs in

TailgateU

4/27/18 3:57pm

It’s true. But you are also not educated to know when what they’re doing isn’t

IGlowInTheDark

4/27/18 4:16pm

Actually, I do know the difference between a virus and bacteria, and the harm

TailgateU

4/27/18 4:38pm

Huh? No. That has nothing to do with it.

IGlowInTheDark

4/27/18 4:42pm

From everything you READ they can do the same thing...

IGlowInTheDark

4/27/18 4:00pm

I disagree with you, I think that everyone can make mistakes.

Ernie

5/2/18 8:50am

When you finish your NP degree I think you’ll agree

SaturdaySpecialDay

5/2/18 9:38am

I do totally agree with you. I believe that mid-level practitioners are good at

Ernie

5/3/18 11:57am

When I get to the point that I don’t understand what I don’t know,

SaturdaySpecialDay

5/2/18 9:42am

In hospitals a nurse anesthetist:anesthesiologist :: LPN:primary care physician

unctoothman

5/2/18 8:46am

I'm not entirely sure the particular differences because I haven't worked

Ernie

5/2/18 8:34am

Not exactly. Plus, they also go to half of the schooling.

Delicate Genius

5/2/18 9:47am

I actually got a degree in Engineering, then a Master's, and now Medical School.

Zoobieman

4/26/18 4:08pm

BTW you are way off on what they make. The responsibility of life and death

Blue2thebone

4/26/18 8:15pm

Like anyone could even know that.

Plato

4/26/18 8:16pm

Which part?

Blue2thebone

4/26/18 11:55pm

Do you ever find yourself in a group setting where everyone else is laughing?

silk

4/26/18 8:47pm

Wow right to the personal attack.

Blue2thebone

4/26/18 11:58pm

I would argue being good at teaching is is very important.

rtNelson

4/27/18 3:26am

Well Done Sir. I commend you for this post.

indocoug

4/27/18 5:00pm

Ahh, those days of flash cards. Remember them well.

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