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8 Team Playoff, BYU and G5. I agree with Spencer, but think Jarom is right.
Klompus
12/12/19 10:32am
TNT is tired of this discussion frankly
TNT
12/12/19 10:33am
If they have access it will allow them to build a better program. All I want is
Cougar TD
12/12/19 11:32am
Agreed
Great38
12/12/19 1:12pm
Yep, even the idea of a special season is fun. But this exclusion and lack of
Cougar TD
12/12/19 1:24pm
If you don't have aspirations for the playoffs, why do you even field a team?
lilpenny
12/12/19 1:38pm
There are at least 70 other schools that have no chance to make the playoff.
Doogal McCougar
12/12/19 1:41pm
Lofty goals are important for direction and lesser results
HONOMO
12/12/19 2:18pm
as I am, TNT...
franklyvulgar
12/13/19 12:21am
Giving the G5 an auto bid in a 8 team playoff would be really dumb
DieHarder
12/12/19 10:33am
They have to do this, or separate P5 and G5 completely.
Klompus
12/12/19 10:37am
It would be dumb in BYU's eyes. I don't think anyone else in the country would
Josef K
12/12/19 10:38am
How often is a G5 one of the 8 best teams in the country? It doesn’t make sense unless they go 12 or 16
DieHarder
12/12/19 10:39am
UCF each of the past two years, absolutely. Memphis is as good as Baylor or Wisc
Klompus
12/12/19 10:40am
The 8 team format is not about puting in the 8 best teams.
Josef K
12/12/19 10:43am
Well said.
Klompus
12/12/19 10:52am
And, it likely includes both the 4 best and the 4 most-deserving...
Doogal McCougar
12/12/19 12:03pm
You should revisit your statement
puntersarepeople
12/12/19 7:07pm
They'd have to put a limit. Like must be ranked top 10
LiveCoug
12/12/19 10:39am
Something like that would make sense
TNT
12/12/19 10:41am
No. there is still WAY to much opinion based in the polls
Return of the Yeti
12/12/19 1:54pm
Why? I think it is a great solution.
ray ray
12/12/19 12:02pm
and that is part of the problem...they are perceived as not in the top 8
Return of the Yeti
12/12/19 1:55pm
If there was an 8-team playoff
Sea Chicken
12/12/19 10:35am
If they adopt the 8 team playoff, the easiest path to the playoff for any team
Josef K
12/12/19 10:37am
Consider too that the AAC's new TV deal is something like 7 mil a year. Thats
Klompus
12/12/19 10:39am
BYU isn't interested in the AAC. Aren't interested in the MWC either
TNT
12/12/19 10:41am
Again, Im not arguing this. Similar to Jaroms point, I hate it, but its reality.
Klompus
12/12/19 10:52am
A *significantly expanded* AAC could make sense
Doogal McCougar
12/12/19 10:49am
I think an 8 team playoff with access for G5 could spur such a change.
Klompus
12/12/19 10:54am
Travel would be brutal. They'd need at least a group of four teams
CaliWG
12/12/19 11:13am
*Gonzaga
Doogal McCougar
12/12/19 11:28am
Play mostly PAC and MWC teams in the non-conference.
Doogal McCougar
12/12/19 12:17pm
Of course it would be easier in a G5 conference purely because of the easier
mudpupper
12/12/19 3:21pm
There is likely more prestige by being a G5 playoff contender
Doogal McCougar
12/12/19 10:41am
8 teams, but treat all of the conferences the same. Any conference champ in the
Scratch
12/12/19 10:41am
It also leaves room for Bias against teams like UCF two years ago. They'd have
Klompus
12/12/19 10:42am
Wrong. They would have been in each of the last 2 years.
Scratch
12/12/19 10:44am
How am I wrong? UCF finished #12 before bowls. But your last point makes sense.
Klompus
12/12/19 10:55am
I said any conference champ in the top 12. That was UCF both years.
Scratch
12/12/19 11:09am
Yeah, but they might have been nudged to 13 if it really mattered.
rcbyufan
12/12/19 11:14am
The 8 team, conference champ scenario is essentially a 14 team playoff.
Josef K
12/12/19 10:50am
This would leave room for bias by the committee
CaliWG
12/12/19 11:09am
exactly. this cannot be based on polls.
Return of the Yeti
12/12/19 1:58pm
This is the best and most fair idea i've seen. I like top 15 but top 12 is still
4mack
12/12/19 12:42pm
Jarom (or at least how you described his take) is wrong.
byujdmba
12/12/19 10:48am
It basically boils down to this. BoT, AD, and fans are on different pages
TNT
12/12/19 10:54am
Would going to the AAC make recruiting significantly better?
SoCalCoug
12/12/19 10:53am
Better question: Can BYU recruit better if they can sell NC chance as AAC member
Klompus
12/12/19 10:58am
Short answer: Probably not
TNT
12/12/19 11:02am
Depends on who BYU is recruiting
superdoo
12/12/19 11:49am
With access to the playoff, there'd be a chance for Gonzagas & Butlers in CFB
CaliWG
12/12/19 11:06am
BYU might have a better chance of making it as a G5 but they have a way better
sunjieming
12/12/19 12:07pm
BYU recruting is clearly worse now than when in the MWC. Look at 247.
Klompus
12/12/19 12:24pm
the emotional detachment of exhibition game seasons extends beyond just the
MatthiasPhunkHausen
12/12/19 1:46pm
If you want a good playoff, it's 8 teams, and it's only the best 8 in college
troymac32
12/12/19 12:44pm
That's a subjective standard with Big10 and SEC biases built-in.
Forzaitalia
12/12/19 12:58pm
Nah that's just a continuation of the status quo
shakarocks
12/12/19 1:30pm
I used to agree with this, but have recently changed my mind
CoastalJuan
12/13/19 7:49am
Theres too much money at stake to trust the committee to do the right thing
CaliWG
12/13/19 8:33am
If the playoff expanded and P5 conference champs automatically qualified, would
GilbertAZCougar
12/12/19 1:21pm
If BYU's primary goal is merely exposure and it fails to get into a conference
TrueBlue67
12/12/19 1:40pm
Sadly I agree.
Klompus
12/12/19 1:45pm
RE: 8 Team Playoff, BYU and G5. I agree with Spencer, but think Jarom is right.
akbarishiwatsu
12/12/19 2:44pm
There is a third reason: exposure. We are on TV more often and I imagine the
rockyrd
12/12/19 3:52pm
Look, until every team can win a NC by winning, it's a flawed format
B Blue
12/12/19 4:18pm
If BYU were 12-0 right now. Playoffs would have been a discussion.
rtNelson
12/12/19 6:32pm
This is such a stupid question, BYU has better NC playoff access now then G5
Zoobieman
12/12/19 9:50pm
TL;DR Just win baby!
Zoobieman
12/12/19 9:50pm
They'd have a much better chance being part of the G5
zerome4sooners
12/13/19 6:01am
Joining the american is not the answer
baldcoug74
12/13/19 10:14am
I agree and it's a shame because I'd love to play those teams regularly
HONOMO
12/13/19 10:48am
Only one Eastern timezone game in the expanded AAC
Doogal McCougar
12/13/19 11:21am
BYU would be stupid to prefer that kind of travel
HONOMO
12/13/19 12:05pm
Texas isn’t very far
puntersarepeople
12/13/19 12:10pm
Yeah I'm actually in favor of the expanded AAC idea
HONOMO
12/13/19 12:50pm
UConn is leaving the AAC, so they are looking to add 1 or 3, for 12 or 14.
Doogal McCougar
12/13/19 1:04pm
Adding Tulane & Tulsa really hurt the potential of the conference
CaliWG
12/13/19 1:10pm
Tulane is an AAU university in a decent market. I give them a pass. Tulsa though
Doogal McCougar
12/13/19 1:12pm
Nobody cares about Tulane, even in NOLA
CaliWG
12/13/19 1:23pm
This is true. And, adding Tulane is what motivated the C7 to breakaway
Doogal McCougar
12/13/19 1:30pm
I like this
HONOMO
12/13/19 1:47pm
It could be smaller IMO
puntersarepeople
12/13/19 1:07pm
If you pay attention to our independent road games, you will see my point:
Doogal McCougar
12/13/19 1:11pm
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