Theres too much money at stake to trust the committee to do the right thing

Dec 13, 2019
8:33:44am

CaliWG All-American

Individuals have biases. If every P5 conference gets an auto bid, the G5’s should get one too. Also, the chances that all of the P5 champs will be deserving is pretty small.

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8 Team Playoff, BYU and G5. I agree with Spencer, but think Jarom is right.

Klompus

12/12/19 10:32am

TNT is tired of this discussion frankly

TNT

12/12/19 10:33am

If they have access it will allow them to build a better program. All I want is

Cougar TD

12/12/19 11:32am

Agreed

Great38

12/12/19 1:12pm

Yep, even the idea of a special season is fun. But this exclusion and lack of

Cougar TD

12/12/19 1:24pm

If you don't have aspirations for the playoffs, why do you even field a team?

lilpenny

12/12/19 1:38pm

There are at least 70 other schools that have no chance to make the playoff.

Doogal McCougar

12/12/19 1:41pm

Lofty goals are important for direction and lesser results

HONOMO

12/12/19 2:18pm

as I am, TNT...

franklyvulgar

12/13/19 12:21am

Giving the G5 an auto bid in a 8 team playoff would be really dumb

DieHarder

12/12/19 10:33am

They have to do this, or separate P5 and G5 completely.

Klompus

12/12/19 10:37am

It would be dumb in BYU's eyes. I don't think anyone else in the country would

Josef K

12/12/19 10:38am

How often is a G5 one of the 8 best teams in the country? It doesn’t make sense unless they go 12 or 16

DieHarder

12/12/19 10:39am

UCF each of the past two years, absolutely. Memphis is as good as Baylor or Wisc

Klompus

12/12/19 10:40am

The 8 team format is not about puting in the 8 best teams.

Josef K

12/12/19 10:43am

Well said.

Klompus

12/12/19 10:52am

And, it likely includes both the 4 best and the 4 most-deserving...

Doogal McCougar

12/12/19 12:03pm

You should revisit your statement

puntersarepeople

12/12/19 7:07pm

They'd have to put a limit. Like must be ranked top 10

LiveCoug

12/12/19 10:39am

Something like that would make sense

TNT

12/12/19 10:41am

No. there is still WAY to much opinion based in the polls

Return of the Yeti

12/12/19 1:54pm

Why? I think it is a great solution.

ray ray

12/12/19 12:02pm

and that is part of the problem...they are perceived as not in the top 8

Return of the Yeti

12/12/19 1:55pm

If there was an 8-team playoff

Sea Chicken

12/12/19 10:35am

If they adopt the 8 team playoff, the easiest path to the playoff for any team

Josef K

12/12/19 10:37am

Consider too that the AAC's new TV deal is something like 7 mil a year. Thats

Klompus

12/12/19 10:39am

BYU isn't interested in the AAC. Aren't interested in the MWC either

TNT

12/12/19 10:41am

Again, Im not arguing this. Similar to Jaroms point, I hate it, but its reality.

Klompus

12/12/19 10:52am

A *significantly expanded* AAC could make sense

Doogal McCougar

12/12/19 10:49am

I think an 8 team playoff with access for G5 could spur such a change.

Klompus

12/12/19 10:54am

Travel would be brutal. They'd need at least a group of four teams

CaliWG

12/12/19 11:13am

*Gonzaga

Doogal McCougar

12/12/19 11:28am

Play mostly PAC and MWC teams in the non-conference.

Doogal McCougar

12/12/19 12:17pm

Of course it would be easier in a G5 conference purely because of the easier

mudpupper

12/12/19 3:21pm

There is likely more prestige by being a G5 playoff contender

Doogal McCougar

12/12/19 10:41am

8 teams, but treat all of the conferences the same. Any conference champ in the

Scratch

12/12/19 10:41am

It also leaves room for Bias against teams like UCF two years ago. They'd have

Klompus

12/12/19 10:42am

Wrong. They would have been in each of the last 2 years.

Scratch

12/12/19 10:44am

How am I wrong? UCF finished #12 before bowls. But your last point makes sense.

Klompus

12/12/19 10:55am

I said any conference champ in the top 12. That was UCF both years.

Scratch

12/12/19 11:09am

Yeah, but they might have been nudged to 13 if it really mattered.

rcbyufan

12/12/19 11:14am

The 8 team, conference champ scenario is essentially a 14 team playoff.

Josef K

12/12/19 10:50am

This would leave room for bias by the committee

CaliWG

12/12/19 11:09am

exactly. this cannot be based on polls.

Return of the Yeti

12/12/19 1:58pm

This is the best and most fair idea i've seen. I like top 15 but top 12 is still

4mack

12/12/19 12:42pm

Jarom (or at least how you described his take) is wrong.

byujdmba

12/12/19 10:48am

It basically boils down to this. BoT, AD, and fans are on different pages

TNT

12/12/19 10:54am

Would going to the AAC make recruiting significantly better?

SoCalCoug

12/12/19 10:53am

Better question: Can BYU recruit better if they can sell NC chance as AAC member

Klompus

12/12/19 10:58am

Short answer: Probably not

TNT

12/12/19 11:02am

Depends on who BYU is recruiting

superdoo

12/12/19 11:49am

With access to the playoff, there'd be a chance for Gonzagas & Butlers in CFB

CaliWG

12/12/19 11:06am

BYU might have a better chance of making it as a G5 but they have a way better

sunjieming

12/12/19 12:07pm

BYU recruting is clearly worse now than when in the MWC. Look at 247.

Klompus

12/12/19 12:24pm

the emotional detachment of exhibition game seasons extends beyond just the

MatthiasPhunkHausen

12/12/19 1:46pm

If you want a good playoff, it's 8 teams, and it's only the best 8 in college

troymac32

12/12/19 12:44pm

That's a subjective standard with Big10 and SEC biases built-in.

Forzaitalia

12/12/19 12:58pm

Nah that's just a continuation of the status quo

shakarocks

12/12/19 1:30pm

I used to agree with this, but have recently changed my mind

CoastalJuan

12/13/19 7:49am

Theres too much money at stake to trust the committee to do the right thing

CaliWG

12/13/19 8:33am

If the playoff expanded and P5 conference champs automatically qualified, would

GilbertAZCougar

12/12/19 1:21pm

If BYU's primary goal is merely exposure and it fails to get into a conference

TrueBlue67

12/12/19 1:40pm

Sadly I agree.

Klompus

12/12/19 1:45pm

RE: 8 Team Playoff, BYU and G5. I agree with Spencer, but think Jarom is right.

akbarishiwatsu

12/12/19 2:44pm

There is a third reason: exposure. We are on TV more often and I imagine the

rockyrd

12/12/19 3:52pm

Look, until every team can win a NC by winning, it's a flawed format

B Blue

12/12/19 4:18pm

If BYU were 12-0 right now. Playoffs would have been a discussion.

rtNelson

12/12/19 6:32pm

This is such a stupid question, BYU has better NC playoff access now then G5

Zoobieman

12/12/19 9:50pm

TL;DR Just win baby!

Zoobieman

12/12/19 9:50pm

They'd have a much better chance being part of the G5

zerome4sooners

12/13/19 6:01am

Joining the american is not the answer

baldcoug74

12/13/19 10:14am

I agree and it's a shame because I'd love to play those teams regularly

HONOMO

12/13/19 10:48am

Only one Eastern timezone game in the expanded AAC

Doogal McCougar

12/13/19 11:21am

BYU would be stupid to prefer that kind of travel

HONOMO

12/13/19 12:05pm

Texas isn’t very far

puntersarepeople

12/13/19 12:10pm

Yeah I'm actually in favor of the expanded AAC idea

HONOMO

12/13/19 12:50pm

UConn is leaving the AAC, so they are looking to add 1 or 3, for 12 or 14.

Doogal McCougar

12/13/19 1:04pm

Adding Tulane & Tulsa really hurt the potential of the conference

CaliWG

12/13/19 1:10pm

Tulane is an AAU university in a decent market. I give them a pass. Tulsa though

Doogal McCougar

12/13/19 1:12pm

Nobody cares about Tulane, even in NOLA

CaliWG

12/13/19 1:23pm

This is true. And, adding Tulane is what motivated the C7 to breakaway

Doogal McCougar

12/13/19 1:30pm

I like this

HONOMO

12/13/19 1:47pm

It could be smaller IMO

puntersarepeople

12/13/19 1:07pm

If you pay attention to our independent road games, you will see my point:

Doogal McCougar

12/13/19 1:11pm

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