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Jun 9, 2019
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bluecougar1985
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How does anything you wrote disprove supply and demand?
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From my experience - most of the people who bag on teachers publicly
newbie
6/9/19 9:06am
Geez- Why can't I spell Publicly
newbie
6/9/19 9:10am
Or principal.
The Dude Abides
6/9/19 9:11am
Or just about anything really
newbie
6/9/19 9:11am
I yused huked onn fonicks to hellp mee.
Texas Hammer
6/9/19 10:03am
You probably had bad teachers or your parents didn’t care
Longbow Cougar
6/9/19 9:16am
Just spell it fonetickley for us.
Q-grr
6/9/19 9:13am
My only complaint about teachers, and it’s not all of them. Is that they
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:17am
What state are you in? They are begging for teachers where I live.
Q-grr
6/9/19 9:18am
Idaho. I also served on the school board (district over 10,000 students) as the
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:23am
Idaho is saturated with teachers because it's an "approved" job for LDS women.
TheWanderer
6/9/19 9:56am
How does anything you wrote disprove supply and demand?
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:59am
It's not just raw supply and demand. Quality also comes into play.
TheWanderer
6/9/19 10:05am
I was on the board in 93 for 4 years. I can speak from experience that it is the
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 10:14am
Being on the school board means you represented the "other side."
TheWanderer
6/9/19 3:49pm
I’ll give it to you that I’m conservative, but that board as a whole is far from
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 4:10pm
just because there are enough applicants, doesn't mean there are enough qualified applicants. I'm told that in Utah,
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 9:22am
This is probably true
newbie
6/9/19 9:25am
I don't think so - I think that over the last 40 years there has been a significant brain drain from teaching.
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 9:33am
You are exactly right. The quality may be down, and negotiations typically
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:27am
It's CRAZY when teachers aren't paid for their ability.
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 9:34am
I agree. Districts should be allowed to negotiate with individuals rather than
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:38am
This is true too...I used to get upwards of 100 applicants for certain content
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
6/9/19 9:38am
Is it okay to complain when the pay schedule is frozen for 10 years?
Jeffacka
6/9/19 9:30am
Wouldn’t be frozen if half the teachers in the country quit.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:32am
SLC teachers just turned down a $50k starting wage package..I get why
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
6/9/19 9:45am
What’s the current starting wage?
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:47am
In SLC school district it's around 45K...so a $5K raise for 1st year teachers
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
6/9/19 9:51am
Back that up with evidence. You're wrong.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 11:07am
That is complete ignorance. Good day.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 12:24pm
You got trapped in a pit.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 2:35pm
How so? You asked for proof without providing any yourself.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 2:52pm
RE: How so? You asked for proof without providing any yourself.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 3:01pm
If that happened nationwide you know wages would go up.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 3:10pm
We tried that, but we can't walk out forever.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 3:13pm
I respect someone that does it anyway, but you agreed on the wage.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 3:15pm
That makes sense now.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 3:26pm
What do you mean?
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 3:27pm
I am not stating here you shouldn’t be paid more. I am claiming the market
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 3:17pm
Great thought, but that's not really how it works.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 3:28pm
I really feel you keep slighting me here.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 3:35pm
There's just a lot going over your head.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 3:49pm
So you are going to talk down to me, got it.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 4:12pm
You can't disagree with facts.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 4:16pm
Like the facts of supply and demand. I knew you’d get it.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 4:18pm
That has nothing to do with teaching. The situation proves that point.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 4:31pm
Lol, Lip Gallagher obviously doesn’t understand supply and demand.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:43am
Why add supply and demand to your statement
84 Grad
6/9/19 10:10am
I just laugh at the people who aren't teachers who pretend to know it all about
Lip Gallagher
6/9/19 10:56am
RE: I just laugh at the people who aren't teachers who pretend to know it all
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 12:26pm
In theory. But the invisible hand moves slower when it requires govt fiat
JollyGreenGiant
6/9/19 10:46am
I believe the education of our children shouldn't be left to market forces.
Cougarrr
6/9/19 10:59am
So what should they be paid? $150K
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 12:44pm
The easiest way to know if teachers are getting paid enough is to see the kind of applications you're getting to fill
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 2:51pm
This is accurate to an extent.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 2:55pm
my hope is many of them are out of work because the pay got doubled. We take our education with us when we die. It's
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 3:05pm
Great points.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 3:23pm
Sounds like your children are home schooled.
Bullrider
6/9/19 2:53pm
#Preach (perfect day to do so)
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
6/9/19 9:18am
I bag on teacher's publicly - their industry doesn't do a good job of firing underperforming people. Underperforming
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 9:20am
It's a double edged sword...the vast majority of teachers protect other teachers
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
6/9/19 9:28am
How do you propose to fix the teacher shortage.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 9:29am
Get rid of teachers unions
KingDave
6/9/19 9:38am
Explain Arizona. We don't have a union.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 11:08am
Supply and demand.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 12:48pm
There's a teaching shortage.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 2:34pm
Really? Then why are no schools being closed?
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 2:59pm
Legislators have a huge influence on class size, but that's a different story.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 3:08pm
Sounds much worse than here.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 3:26pm
Spoken like a true Idaho school board member.
TheWanderer
6/9/19 3:55pm
So many bad school board members in this country.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 4:08pm
Some people just can't be reached.
Jeffacka
6/9/19 4:09pm
The fix in NY (because pay is good) is to require the firing of 5% of all teachers each year. Way too much dead
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 9:39am
Um, you can't come up with a system based on a set number. It has to be about
Lip Gallagher
6/9/19 10:59am
It’d take years of 5% before it would be a problem. Then revisit the policy.
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 12:58pm
You are exactly right. The teachers organization won’t allow districts to do
bluecougar1985
6/9/19 9:30am
There's really only three ways to immediately can a teacher: 1. screw with kids
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
6/9/19 9:37am
Aren’t teachers evaluated annually on the academic progress of their students?
Bullrider
6/9/19 3:24pm
Is it teachers that should be bagged on in this case, or admins?
TheWanderer
6/9/19 10:00am
This is true..but it's the unions who created the process to fire a teacher
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
6/9/19 10:04am
That is a good point. Unions do have excessive force.
TheWanderer
6/9/19 10:08am
I could tell you SO many stories about bad teachers being protected by a
Don_Juan_El_Guapo
6/9/19 10:12am
2 years ago in NY - more teachers were convicted (that's not accused... it's convicted) of a sex crime against
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 10:37am
By necessity shouldn't the number of convicted sex offenders <= fired?
TheWanderer
6/9/19 1:56pm
that's my point. It should be the other way. But they allow convicted criminals to stay on the payroll until the
HarlemCoug
6/9/19 2:52pm
I see. Wow.
TheWanderer
6/9/19 3:56pm
Education is not the only professional where bad employees stay employed
84 Grad
6/9/19 2:16pm
My only complaint is assignments that make a whole household angry.
Belboz
6/9/19 10:12am
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