Feb 1, 2023
9:33:26pm
9:33:26pm
If Utah losing to UF, Penn State and tOSU is a deal killer...lol...lol...wait until you see what the other Pac-12
schools under consideration have as baggage.
I get it. That's the whole fun of BYU fans. Since Utah lost 4 games two seasons in a row...they suck. Lol. Utah is the only school not winning every game. Lol
I can't even finish writing it's so naive.
Yes...they're not Alabama. We get that. Utah will lose to better programs that have exponentially more resources. There really is no shame in that. It's ok. Still, no other lower tier P5 is winning back to back championships or dominating their division.
Dominating the south and winning by 1-2 TD MOVs. It's been 4-5 years since anyone has legitimately beat Utah at home. Utah is crushing the P12 they're supposedly inferior to on this imaginary Big 12 checklist for expansion
Ok. So you say the money is eyeballs. With cable cutters and no conference channel, markets aren't as significant. Everyone gets ESPN / FOX already. The advantage of new markets is the auto cable subscriptions. That's huge for the BTN, the original P12 network and AMZN streaming perhaps...but not for the Big 12 contract.
Big games bring eye balls. The biggest payouts come from the networks paying for top choices in matchups each week and high profile games like the CCG. "The draft" they call it.
Top ranked teams create marquee games that have national appeal. Go look at Utah's total TV ratings for entire season and postseason the last 3 full seasons and compare to the rest of the Pac-12.
Highest rated games in CFP era-- Utah vs. Oregon 2019, regular season — Utah vs. Oregon 2021, USC vs. Utah 2022.
Overall TV audiences, it's Oregon, USC, UW and Utah...no one else is even close.
I agree. Oregon and UW are markedly better candidates on paper. But they have baggage, egos and other places they're looking to be. They ain't coming.
So who exactly is the better candidate? Utah brings more excitement, viewers, larger audiences, etc.
Are more viewers going to tune in to watch 1-9 CU play #5 TCU? Or #5 TCU travel to #10 Utah?
Sure, Denver's a bigger market, but no one is interested. The latter game would have triple the audience.
I get it. That's the whole fun of BYU fans. Since Utah lost 4 games two seasons in a row...they suck. Lol. Utah is the only school not winning every game. Lol
I can't even finish writing it's so naive.
Yes...they're not Alabama. We get that. Utah will lose to better programs that have exponentially more resources. There really is no shame in that. It's ok. Still, no other lower tier P5 is winning back to back championships or dominating their division.
Dominating the south and winning by 1-2 TD MOVs. It's been 4-5 years since anyone has legitimately beat Utah at home. Utah is crushing the P12 they're supposedly inferior to on this imaginary Big 12 checklist for expansion
Ok. So you say the money is eyeballs. With cable cutters and no conference channel, markets aren't as significant. Everyone gets ESPN / FOX already. The advantage of new markets is the auto cable subscriptions. That's huge for the BTN, the original P12 network and AMZN streaming perhaps...but not for the Big 12 contract.
Big games bring eye balls. The biggest payouts come from the networks paying for top choices in matchups each week and high profile games like the CCG. "The draft" they call it.
Top ranked teams create marquee games that have national appeal. Go look at Utah's total TV ratings for entire season and postseason the last 3 full seasons and compare to the rest of the Pac-12.
Highest rated games in CFP era-- Utah vs. Oregon 2019, regular season — Utah vs. Oregon 2021, USC vs. Utah 2022.
Overall TV audiences, it's Oregon, USC, UW and Utah...no one else is even close.
I agree. Oregon and UW are markedly better candidates on paper. But they have baggage, egos and other places they're looking to be. They ain't coming.
So who exactly is the better candidate? Utah brings more excitement, viewers, larger audiences, etc.
Are more viewers going to tune in to watch 1-9 CU play #5 TCU? Or #5 TCU travel to #10 Utah?
Sure, Denver's a bigger market, but no one is interested. The latter game would have triple the audience.
- Bio page
- TFL
- Joined
- Oct 7, 2015
- Last login
- Apr 26, 2024
- Total posts
- 13,550 (60 FO)
Messages
Time
1/31/23 1:59pm
1/31/23 5:20pm
Nah...Utah likes the association with the P10 academics. As a fan, I'd prefer the P12 right now because Utah has an
1/31/23 2:26pm
1/31/23 3:11pm
Lol. So Utah doesn't go to the Big 12 because they lost to Penn State and to Florida? So due to this ugly on the
1/31/23 3:37pm
1/31/23 5:47pm
1/31/23 2:02pm
1/31/23 2:03pm
1/31/23 2:18pm
1/31/23 2:08pm
1/31/23 2:13pm
1/31/23 2:14pm
1/31/23 3:28pm
1/31/23 7:42pm
1/31/23 3:23pm
1/31/23 5:51pm
What exactly did he say? Didn't he say national recognition? Sorry, but outside Oregon and UW...no one else left offers
1/31/23 7:49pm
1/31/23 8:54pm
1/31/23 9:02pm
1/31/23 9:02pm
1/31/23 5:51pm
Utah's playing it right. They may as well wait out the P12. They can jump to B12 any time. BIG is out of the picture for
1/31/23 2:22pm
This is what Utah fans tell themselves but it's not true. The pecking order is surely Oregon/Washington > ASU/Arizona
1/31/23 2:28pm
1/31/23 3:34pm
1/31/23 3:35pm
1/31/23 5:57pm
1/31/23 5:10pm
Umm...yeah...if the ACC was going to break the GOR it would've happened. When your entire theory relies on something
1/31/23 7:41pm
2/1/23 2:00am
2/1/23 10:35am
2/1/23 11:48am
2/1/23 12:42pm
2/1/23 1:46pm
2/1/23 8:27pm
2/1/23 8:27pm
2/1/23 9:04pm
What does Utah bring that the Big 12 doesn't already have or doesn't have a better option with another school?
2/3/23 8:33am
2/3/23 10:50am
2/3/23 12:20pm
2/3/23 3:00pm
2/1/23 8:27pm
1/31/23 2:38pm
1/31/23 3:55pm
1/31/23 7:46pm
1/31/23 3:18pm
1/31/23 4:56pm