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rggee
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yeah was he so much of a shoo in that he just didn't take time on the essays??
something doesn't add up
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3.77 unweighted GPA (4.34 weighted), 34 ACT...rejected. We're shocked right now
atlcougar
3/3/18 11:26am
This is why I would like to see BYU expand enrollment, not to lower the
Nat Gas Man
3/3/18 11:29am
Where are we going to build the second campus then?
Jezza
3/4/18 8:50am
There is plenty of room around BYU to expand. Provo High campus for starters.
demon_llama
2/16/19 12:53pm
Seems like he’s got the “stats” to have been accepted
NorthwestCoug
3/3/18 11:32am
You're very kind. And you took a wise approach with your son.
atlcougar
3/3/18 11:40am
My one son at BYU-I is loving it and two of my others probably wished they had
Fdnman
3/3/18 11:48am
There is so much truth to your last sentence. I can name a bunch of
kotacoug
3/3/18 2:35pm
RE: Seems like he’s got the “stats” to have been accepted
timpjynx
3/3/18 11:48am
Yowza. That should be an automatic shoo in, especially with that 34! Something isn't right
LiveCoug
3/3/18 11:32am
Bummer. I had worse stats 17 years ago with zero extra curriculars and got a
Windward_Coug
3/3/18 11:32am
He's better off at a better school.
slowhiteguy
3/3/18 11:33am
^^^ this
BeefNoodleSoup
3/3/18 11:33am
Seriously.. I'm sure he'll get a full-ride somewhere
QuikCars
3/3/18 12:05pm
That is surpring/ disappointing based on the stats you gave. Take solace in the
pegushin
3/3/18 11:33am
BYU absolutely needs to expand enrollment. These types of kids and even kids without the same achievements belong in
monkeycowboy
3/3/18 11:33am
That doesn't make sense.
barnacle
3/3/18 11:33am
It makes sense when you have 1000s of kids just like him applying. They won't
fattycoug
3/3/18 12:49pm
but they don't have thousands of kids just like him applying. his stats are superior.
HarlemCoug
3/3/18 12:59pm
maybe 100s with those numbers
rggee
3/3/18 1:44pm
1000s of them do not have 34s on the act. This is a joke.
tebowned
3/3/18 3:00pm
If he really wants to go to BYU, he’ll get in eventually
YIsForBrigham
3/3/18 11:33am
This sounds like my brother in law
JohnnyComeLately
3/3/18 11:34am
Thanks for that. Great story. I hope he proves to be as resilient as your BIL
atlcougar
3/3/18 4:56pm
I transferred in too after my first year. It all works out
Cheesy Gordita
3/3/18 11:31pm
This doesn't make sense.
HarlemCoug
3/3/18 11:35am
Too bad. But he can learn a lot about life with this rejection. More than he could with an acceptance. He’ll be fine.
Mr. Belding
3/3/18 11:35am
That stinks. He is definitely more qualified than many (most?) who are there.
Cougar-Duck
3/3/18 11:36am
I don't buy it
rggee
3/3/18 11:36am
What is it you don't buy? Pray tell.
atlcougar
3/3/18 11:44am
those numbers get just about anyone in. there has to be more to the story
rggee
3/3/18 11:45am
Yes. That's why we're a bit shocked right now. Trying to make sense of this.
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:07pm
Long shot but worth calling on Tuesday to be sure there wasn’t a mistake.
Kevin Arnold
3/3/18 12:26pm
Thanks. We're definitely calling next week. I appreciate the kind words.
atlcougar
3/3/18 1:13pm
I hope you do follow up. I would appeal the decision
byuwahoo
3/3/18 8:46pm
Several years ago my daughter did not get in.
hitechcpa
3/3/18 9:48pm
curious if you feel that BYU was a good fit for her and that she was academically prepared?
HarlemCoug
3/3/18 9:58pm
Yes, it was a bit of a stretch for her, I think anyone. But she's done well.
hitechcpa
3/5/18 3:49pm
That's why I don't tout Byu to my kids, also talk positively about schools
permiso
3/3/18 11:37am
Serve his mission first and then reapply
airwolf
3/3/18 11:38am
This. If he doesn't get in again, then take a full ride at a JC
donnerstag
3/3/18 12:01pm
I know a kid who go admitted while on his mission after
johnnycarson
3/3/18 12:29pm
Makes me wonder about his essays and rec letters then.
Turnpike Lane
3/3/18 11:38am
yeah was he so much of a shoo in that he just didn't take time on the essays??
rggee
3/3/18 11:39am
That is the only thing that makes any sense
bluelands
3/3/18 11:58am
He labored over his essays for weeks and he's quite a good writer (as many
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:05pm
RE: He labored over his essays for weeks and he's quite a good writer (as many
andrewth
3/3/18 1:01pm
Makes me wonder if it’s worth it to take easier classes and get a higher GPA
RdF3
3/3/18 11:38am
We did that with my last son due to the crazy tough classes in our school.
Fdnman
3/3/18 11:42am
That's exactly what admissions told us 6 years ago--higher GPA in easier classes
Wolvercougs
3/3/18 11:54am
It is.
dwhitebud
3/3/18 11:56am
that's too bad. I'll never teach my kids to cheat at life that way. If that's
demon_llama
2/16/19 12:58pm
Something doesn't smell right...what appeal process is there? No way a 3.7 and
Fdnman
3/3/18 11:39am
Yeah, we're trying to figure out what happened. All I know is his siblings are
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:15pm
Sorry to hear that. I would be upset too. Was there a back up plan?
HaydenFox
3/3/18 11:39am
Wow. Sorry man, that sucks. We tried for the Y, but instead we got BYU-I.
Dishonor Code
3/3/18 11:41am
RE: 3.77 unweighted GPA (4.34 weighted), 34 ACT...rejected. We're shocked right
rhatchmd
3/3/18 11:41am
RE: 3.77 unweighted GPA (4.34 weighted), 34 ACT...rejected. We're shocked right
rhatchmd
3/3/18 11:42am
Probably net tithe payers, maybe also drink diet coke.
Dishonor Code
3/3/18 11:44am
They are from Atlanta..... maybe its worse, they work for Coke.
ABCoug
3/3/18 12:08pm
I wish there were more to the story. If there were more I wouldn't be shocked.
atlcougar
3/3/18 11:47am
How many DUIs does he have? I kid.
thebruce
3/3/18 11:50am
Only two.
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:20pm
Its the absence of transparency that drives me nuts — like can BYU explain why
Wolvercougs
3/3/18 12:00pm
BYU is awesome, but
Benfica1
3/4/18 6:28pm
Let me know where he ends up so I know where to send my daughter...
Dishonor Code
3/3/18 11:42am
^^^^This
ABCoug
3/3/18 12:10pm
Ha! Will do, my friend! Thanks for making us smile!
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:24pm
That’s a good post! Best one tonight.
Tsisquan
3/3/18 9:45pm
I showed this to HCBW, she said “there is obviously another path for him”
NOCAL_YFAN
3/3/18 11:43am
Thats what i thought. Maybe hes just not supposed to be there yet.
Orem58thBall
3/3/18 12:35pm
Thanks. Regardless of where he ends up, that's our hope for him. He'll
atlcougar
3/3/18 1:15pm
My children have no hope.
tawillin
3/3/18 11:43am
RE: My children have no hope.
Icecat
3/3/18 2:39pm
I agree with what other have said, but want to add tbis
Alpi Gusto
3/3/18 11:44am
My wife is saying the exact same thing as I read this. You're both very right.
atlcougar
3/3/18 11:54am
Wow, sounds like he has the tools to succeed
conflictedcoug
3/3/18 11:45am
Any issues in Seminary?
Baron
3/3/18 11:46am
None that I know of. Been a faithful seminary student.
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:26pm
Something is wrong with the scenario or the admin....34 ACT is a lock
kotacoug
3/3/18 11:47am
I'm no admissions office employee, but his essays were well written.
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:28pm
Have you considered having him attend a summer session?
Hinta
3/3/18 11:47am
I posted about this earlier but I definitely think it is wise
thebruce
3/3/18 11:48am
It is not the end of the world, but man that is brutal. He will get in eventuall
RexIdaCoug
3/3/18 11:51am
I would flip BYU the bird and go somewhere better
conflictedcoug
3/3/18 12:00pm
The thought did enter my mind!
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:36pm
You're very right. It's not the end of the world. He (and we) knows that.
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:35pm
Maybe God has other plans for him?
Veracruz
3/3/18 11:53am
I'd be contacting admissions this coming week asking for more info. Is there a
delux_247
3/3/18 12:00pm
Wow, I'm sorry. That's stupid.
QuikCars
3/3/18 12:00pm
Obviously, something within his application was unappealing, to the point of getting a denial
SJS
3/3/18 12:04pm
Right. Wish I knew what it was.
atlcougar
3/3/18 1:17pm
Honestly, that’s life. Just go someplace better and don’t look back.
Modiolus
3/3/18 12:06pm
Hopefully BYU was his backup school, but he is qualified for better!
HalftimeAdjustment
3/3/18 12:08pm
With those stats he should be able to get a scholarship to a better school.
k-ace
3/3/18 12:11pm
Baffling.
Paco
3/3/18 12:11pm
Probably the Bishop didn't write a good recommendation for him...
Richbyu
3/3/18 12:12pm
Nevermind...just saw that you are the Bishop.
Richbyu
3/3/18 12:12pm
BYU is becoming too "elite", and it isn't an elite school. Expand enrollment.
Richbyu
3/3/18 12:13pm
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East1999
3/3/18 12:16pm
I agree with that sentiment. This should be a clear cut acceptance,
Paco
3/3/18 12:22pm
Agreed. The narrative is accurate. We'll be calling next week to see if
atlcougar
3/3/18 1:19pm
Take advantage of the Hope Scholarship at GTech for a year
Noni Fruit
3/3/18 12:22pm
please circle back later and let us know if and when you find out the rationale
calcio
3/3/18 12:28pm
I don't want to make any assumptions about your son
Carnac
3/3/18 12:29pm
Your son will have to double down on student government, music, art or dance for
kotacoug
3/3/18 12:32pm
Dance, huh?
Carnac
3/3/18 12:36pm
RE: Dance, huh?
kotacoug
3/3/18 1:05pm
RE: Dance, huh?
Carnac
3/3/18 1:15pm
Good luck. Hope it works out. I'm just saying that the vast majority of
kotacoug
3/3/18 1:37pm
BYU is the epicenter of Ballroom dance - my son 3x national champion in ballroom
Wolvercougs
3/3/18 8:55pm
If a dude is into dance (ballet, contemporary) he has a huge admissions edge
SaturdaySpecialDay
3/3/18 7:54pm
I don't blame you for questioning his narrative. But I can appeal to others on
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:46pm
I feel your sincerity
Carnac
3/3/18 12:53pm
Its all about the extra's...
TheLost
3/3/18 12:33pm
Read his post. The kid did all of that and more. Something’s wrong with this
Pistol Shrimp
3/3/18 12:36pm
Yes, he's taken a well rounded approach throughout school.
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:48pm
when you appeal to the school and win... please come back and let us know. This has to be a clerical error.
HarlemCoug
3/3/18 12:34pm
Thanks. I hope I get the chance to.
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:48pm
Honestly, there is no logical reason this, so it's a great opportunity to teach
runnincoug
3/3/18 12:37pm
Thanks. We had a chance for a heart to heart before he had to run out the door
atlcougar
3/3/18 12:50pm
makes we wonder if they didn't get his essays or the endorsement came through
Martin Van Nostrand
3/3/18 12:40pm
This makes next to zero sense. I would dig for answers. Sounds like somebody
mudpupper
3/3/18 12:51pm
This is last year's grid supposedly...as I said...something is missing
Fdnman
3/3/18 1:21pm
Not many denied into the UofU
Fdnman
3/3/18 1:23pm
Who's that poor 3.8/28 who got denied? the lone red dot among the sea of green
Dissenter
3/3/18 1:28pm
I've always assumed it was either a hater self-reporting nonsense - or it's a person declined for
HarlemCoug
3/3/18 1:40pm
Yes, when I saw that grid posted a few days/weeks ago it made me feel really
atlcougar
3/3/18 1:42pm
the reality is that parents of kids with these marks shouldn't have any anxiety about our kid getting in. If BYU starts
HarlemCoug
3/3/18 1:51pm
With those kind of grades/ACT scores and EC's why does he want to go measly BYU?
BYUALWAYSNUM1
3/3/18 1:21pm
Yes, there are other options. His plan has always been BYU undergrad and then
atlcougar
3/3/18 1:40pm
RE: With those kind of grades/ACT scores and EC's why does he want to go measly
plymouth
3/4/18 10:08am
did you say 24 by mistake on the application or something?
rggee
3/3/18 2:01pm
Somewhere in provo there is a kid with the same name as your son
conflictedcoug
3/3/18 2:38pm
There is no way this kid shouldn’t be at BYU. Someone screwed up.
tebowned
3/3/18 2:58pm
Our son didn’t make it either. Feel very similar. Already in at NC St. though
BornBlue
3/3/18 3:05pm
Go on a mission and then reapply he 'll get accepted
BYU Grounds
3/3/18 3:51pm
Building block, not a stumbling block
fox racer
3/3/18 4:37pm
My 17 year old has a 4.0 Unweighted, 32 ACT, Varsity Athlete, but
Tweege
3/3/18 4:58pm
I laughed at this, and then I cried. Geez, good luck brother.
Cougarfan777
3/3/18 5:38pm
Thanks for putting things in perspective. Sorry for your challenge.
atlcougar
3/3/18 9:13pm
Send him to Stanford.
BostonCougar
3/3/18 5:37pm
i didnt get into stanford with a 3.99 and 35 ACT
rggee
3/3/18 5:55pm
Stanford rejects a lot of seemingly perfect students.
Capricious Cougar
3/3/18 9:28pm
I knew someone with a 36 Act pretty much perfect GPA with all the APs he could
SactOWNit
3/4/18 1:33pm
He will have to "settle" for some place like Duke. And will likely go on to
Game Changer
3/3/18 5:39pm
That was my thought. Did he apply/get in to Duke or Vandy? There's institute and
Martin Van Nostrand
3/3/18 5:49pm
Yep - I went to grad school at Duke and attended that YSA ward in Chapel Hill.
Game Changer
3/5/18 7:46am
(Current bush)..."I am the gardener here..."
ditch
3/3/18 7:08pm
Call the admissions office for clarification. Your son should be in.
Y-Phile
3/3/18 7:53pm
It's too late for this year but he has a resume that is tailor made for one of
vaquero
3/3/18 8:03pm
The only thing that could throw this are his endorsements,
canofpicante
3/3/18 8:45pm
Essays are a key differentiator. That is why they added more this year.
bad84cougar
3/3/18 9:08pm
IMHO, there is nothing to differentiate in this case. He was an autoadmit.
byuwahoo
3/4/18 9:02am
Krikey!
Tsisquan
3/3/18 9:11pm
It’s time to add an interview.
Tsisquan
3/3/18 9:22pm
I really can’t wrap my head around this.
VenetianCougar
3/3/18 9:44pm
I too need some order to the chaos. I can't make sense of the situation.
atlcougar
3/3/18 10:42pm
Any word on this? Just curious. Sounds like a clerical error.
ArchbishopMitty
3/7/18 7:25pm
RE: 3.77 unweighted GPA (4.34 weighted), 34 ACT...rejected. We're shocked right
Asay7
3/3/18 9:47pm
Where will your son go?
conflictedcoug
3/3/18 10:06pm
today just doesn't make sense - schools need to give standards and stick to them. Your son should be in.
HarlemCoug
3/3/18 10:25pm
Sorry to hear about your son. As you can imagine it's been a rough day.
atlcougar
3/3/18 10:38pm
They don't know your son. If they knew him, he would have been admitted. Essays
roseyscenario
3/4/18 6:21am
I’ve followed various families and applicants over the years
BlackBart
3/4/18 9:31am
Is it possible that his ACT scores weren’t sent or there was an error in the
LaserCoug
3/4/18 2:02pm
Out of statersself Report Grades now until after admissions.
plymouth
3/5/18 6:05am
Unless he self reported wrong
LaserCoug
3/5/18 6:58am
There is a decent chance this was a mistake. When you are dealing with
Bostonblue
3/4/18 3:19pm
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