What are the main differences besides cost?

P5 conference

Fatalplacebo

7/18/18 10:41pm

The trump card.

Gerald-DeGroot

7/18/18 11:50pm

Playing ucla, arizona schools and usc on tv annually creates better exposure.

cdr88

7/19/18 12:47pm

What TV? - the PAC 12 Network. BYU Football has way more "national" TV exposure

Rob of NV

7/19/18 3:48pm

You're hilarious.

displacedute

7/19/18 3:58pm

I wouldn't doubt it

SUAVO

7/19/18 5:07pm

You wouldn't doubt that he's hilarious?

displacedute

7/19/18 5:16pm

RE: You wouldn't doubt that he's hilarious?

SUAVO

7/19/18 5:23pm

RE: You wouldn't doubt that he's hilarious?

displacedute

7/19/18 5:25pm

Then there's money, money, and money.

stevebyu8

7/20/18 9:18am

P5 = resources AND perception

Benfica1

7/19/18 12:49pm

And 99% of 4/5 Star recruits. It really is upper and lower FBS.

blackshirts

7/19/18 8:51pm

Included with recruiting and perception, but yes.

Benfica1

7/20/18 8:29am

Low standards

Gustav

7/18/18 10:42pm

You have that backwards, BYU actually has lower standards and allows academic

DoseOfReality

7/19/18 10:10am

wrong

GOR

7/19/18 11:22am

He is correct. BYU can, and does, take non qualifiers.

Muted

7/19/18 11:52am

Wasn’t this discussed and shown to be false a few weeks back?

BYUtka

7/19/18 12:57pm

Absolutely not true period.

jkccoug

7/19/18 1:59pm

Dayan Lake.

displacedute

7/19/18 2:02pm

proof? link?

jkccoug

7/19/18 2:14pm

RE: proof? link?

displacedute

7/19/18 2:17pm

RE: proof? link?

Scratch

7/19/18 2:22pm

FAKE NEWS! THE TRIB HATES BYU!

displacedute

7/19/18 2:23pm

You see, the way it works is that the coaching staff gets one exception every

Scratch

7/19/18 2:33pm

Of course secretary doesn't count.

displacedute

7/19/18 2:36pm

yes but they don't take unlimited numbers because then it would affect their...

icecougar

7/19/18 5:38pm

RE: yes but they don't take unlimited numbers because then it would affect

displacedute

7/19/18 5:40pm

supports my point. It's a 5 yr analysis and at BYU we're heavily affected by...

icecougar

7/19/18 5:46pm

No it doesn't.

displacedute

7/19/18 5:48pm

...players not graduating within a certain time frame...

icecougar

7/19/18 6:37pm

See below. You get an extension for missions. If that didn't exist then BYU

Scratch

7/19/18 6:46pm

The players who go on missions get extra time. Missions don't impact APR rates.

Scratch

7/19/18 5:48pm

Link?

icecougar

7/19/18 6:38pm

Right here. Search for "religious."

Scratch

7/19/18 6:45pm

Same for military service.

Everyman

7/19/18 8:25pm

btw, I noticed an awful lot of Pac12 schools in the bottom half of the list

icecougar

7/19/18 6:41pm

Not Utah though.

displacedute

7/19/18 7:42pm

Because the coaching staff is paying "tutors." Directly. Duh. Probably also

Scratch

7/19/18 8:15pm

Nah, us Utes is too dumb to be tutors.

displacedute

7/19/18 8:32pm

Lol. The irony of that boardname

SUAVO

7/19/18 11:54am

Naked females in the end zone

IceBlueCoug

7/18/18 10:42pm

That's the number 1 differentiator. Don't forget number 2.

Crazy Joe Davola

7/19/18 3:35am

There isn't a significant financial difference between the 2. Utah has a ton of overhead that BYU does not.

mulletino

7/18/18 10:51pm

confused by this, can expand on the overhead they have that we don't?

ColumbusCoug

7/18/18 10:52pm

BYU has zero debt service, for one.

mulletino

7/18/18 10:53pm

do we know what Utah's is? Because if they have a few million $'s a year in

ColumbusCoug

7/18/18 10:55pm

Right. Long term guaranteed contracts are part of that. Krystco is wayyyyyy overpaid.

mulletino

7/18/18 11:10pm

According to the state audit it’s $4.65M/yr.

Everyman

7/19/18 7:05am

So just between that and excess paid to KWhitt and Krystco, they spend $7-9MM per year.

mulletino

7/19/18 9:38am

That's what I'm getting at. People keep saying Utah has more resources.

GOR

7/18/18 10:53pm

P5 is a big advantage right now. BYU has zero money problems.

mulletino

7/18/18 11:22pm

If BYU has zero money problems, why won't it hire experienced coaches?

argus

7/19/18 1:02am

Seriously, the O only has 3 supporting coaches who have been OCs before and

Pretorian

7/19/18 5:31am

Because the decision makers feel the "heavenly" responsibility of being good

TheLoneCougar

7/19/18 7:17am

Utah probably just chooses to allocate more funds to football than BYU does

Turnpike Lane

7/18/18 10:53pm

Ok which has provided them what that BYU doesn't have?

GOR

7/18/18 10:54pm

See my post below, sorry, meant to respond to your post here.

Scratch

7/18/18 11:07pm

Does BYU have stuff like this? . . .

Shalmeno

7/19/18 1:24pm

Where do they do the mock baptisms?

icecougar

7/19/18 5:32pm

Idk do we? Maybe not a barber shop.

GOR

7/19/18 9:39pm

Utah's facilities are significantly better now. Utah has sunk a lot of money

Scratch

7/18/18 11:06pm

This is completely hearsay and you know it.

Bostonblue

7/18/18 11:14pm

What part is hearsay?

Scratch

7/18/18 11:17pm

The whole thing. You heard it from some online buddy

Bostonblue

7/19/18 9:01am

Umm. I actually believe it. Extra money to pay for good strength and

Fatalplacebo

7/18/18 11:19pm

Actually it's true.

Kalani4Prez

7/19/18 8:06am

Sources from both schools and details please?

Bostonblue

7/19/18 9:01am

Soon as Utah started cashing $25mil checks, they dumped money into facilities

BrotherBrighamsBeard

7/19/18 9:14am

That’s just an article about Utah’s finances. Says

Bostonblue

7/19/18 9:17am

Do you have proof of the contrary?

BrotherBrighamsBeard

7/19/18 9:41am

that's kind of the whole point of my post. people are just guessing because

Bostonblue

7/19/18 9:57am

And spend way more. And people have seen both schools’ facilities. And have read

Scratch

7/19/18 10:08am

I’ve seen the facilities and the human waste left in the

Bostonblue

7/19/18 12:30pm

Hate to break it to you....

CoachSpeak

7/18/18 11:54pm

Thanks for the firsthand account

Carlos E. Queso

7/19/18 12:01am

I can’t speak to the non-football stuff, but as for football I’ve seen both and

Scratch

7/19/18 12:03am

So Utah spent more so it must be nicer?

Cougar TD

7/19/18 12:26am

No. But it is newer. And I like to think that there is probably some

Scratch

7/19/18 12:31am

Or, BYU bought low in a slow construction market and Utah paid through the nose

kccougar

7/19/18 12:57am

Certainly a factor. But I doubt it was 3.5 times more expensive. And even if you

Scratch

7/19/18 1:22am

Here’s the actual increase in construction costs for that period.

Scratch

7/19/18 1:35am

lol.

kccougar