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Oct 14, 2019
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goobermcmonkey
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Probably what killed his opportunity top be a HC elsewhere was the rape scandal
That would end a coach's HC opportunities regardless of where it happened.
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The more I learn about Jay Hill the more I like him as a candidate for next head coach
Odysseus
All-American
10/14/19 1:46pm
He should be the #1 Candidate
MikeDitka'sStache
10/14/19 1:47pm
I have him at #3 behind Bevell and Peterson. But great candidate.
Mrs Featerbottom
10/14/19 2:10pm
Why do you have Peterson above Jay Hill?
BYU Fan
10/14/19 2:13pm
Bevell, pipe dream. JH tops my list & ive never
MatthiasPhunkHausen
10/14/19 2:37pm
I agree it's unlikely (maybe zero chance), but I'd still ask him first.
Mrs Featerbottom
10/14/19 4:44pm
Couldn’t hurt
MatthiasPhunkHausen
10/14/19 6:21pm
I think it's a close choice. Three reasons I prefer Paul:
Mrs Featerbottom
10/14/19 3:14pm
I’ll have to do more research but he seems like a great choice
BYU Fan
10/14/19 3:27pm
He was on the radio making his case to be the OC after the 2017 season
CaliWG
10/14/19 3:33pm
Here's what I've found on Paul Peterson as an HC, with records, trends, & stats:
ldssdl
10/14/19 3:56pm
TL:DR Peterson is less proven than Hill, but has shown to be a good HC so far.
ldssdl
10/14/19 4:10pm
I’d go Peterson as well for the reasons you mentioned. Plus he’s currently 5-1
bigbossbyu
10/14/19 5:36pm
Agreed - I just think we need high energy + offensive minded.
Mrs Featerbottom
10/14/19 5:44pm
Could end up with both
puntersarepeople
10/14/19 6:08pm
I’m with you I think Peterson would be a great hire. So far he’s been a successful head coach at Snow and Dixie State
Nuke
10/14/19 8:29pm
When was he at Sac State? What did he coach and how did they do?
ldssdl
10/14/19 11:06pm
He was OC his whole tenure
Mrs Featerbottom
10/15/19 6:41am
Bevell has no recent college or HC experience. Why would he be on the list?
Benfica1
10/14/19 2:50pm
It’s sexy due to his stints in the NFL, and a small pool to choose from. It’s
pegushin
10/14/19 2:52pm
Detmer was a sexy pick as well.
Benfica1
10/14/19 3:08pm
Let's be honest, now...
Eddie
10/14/19 3:11pm
lol there was nothing sexy about that in any way
Lip Gallagher
10/14/19 4:16pm
Idk man, that drawl does it for people.
IceCreamButt
10/14/19 4:21pm
Because he's an NFL SB winning coordinator. Crowton comparisons are wrong
Mrs Featerbottom
10/14/19 3:18pm
I’m curious how well NFL coaches generally do
D.T. Survivor
10/14/19 5:34pm
And he still has no recent college football/recruiting experience. Who even
Benfica1
10/14/19 9:11pm
Don't disagree.
Mrs Featerbottom
10/15/19 6:42am
My one worry with him is who would be his assistants?
mudpupper
10/14/19 1:48pm
That is the biggest problem. These coaching staff are all unproven.
Cougar TD
10/14/19 1:50pm
That's sortof the problem with BYU
BrutustheBrash
10/14/19 1:52pm
Maybe Fesi? He was with him at Weber......
kansascougar
10/14/19 1:50pm
Not impressed with what the WRs have done under him.
crack
10/14/19 1:56pm
I think Hifo, Milne, and Romney have shown flashes.
ldssdl
10/14/19 1:59pm
Give him legit money to go coordinator shopping around the country
MikeDitka'sStache
10/14/19 1:51pm
IDK if that will happen though, that's the problem
BrutustheBrash
10/14/19 1:53pm
Ideally the best we could find
BYU Fan
10/14/19 1:54pm
IDK if people would like Ena
BrutustheBrash
10/14/19 1:56pm
"One last chance to succeed"? You serious?
Eddie
10/14/19 1:56pm
How irrelevant can BYU get before we reach a point of no return?
BYU Fan
10/14/19 1:58pm
How irrelevant was Weber State before Jay Hill took over?
Eddie
10/14/19 2:00pm
Apples and oranges
BYU Fan
10/14/19 2:03pm
It's probably a better example than you want to admit.
Eddie
10/14/19 2:13pm
Maybe so - it seems to be that BYU is headed in the wrong direction
BYU Fan
10/14/19 2:34pm
Fans are always anxious to come to a winner
BigBlue04
10/14/19 3:26pm
SMU is showing that *eventually* you can come back from complete burial.
squidmark
10/14/19 9:03pm
What about Jan Jorgenson? Supposedly he made a big difference at BYU as a GA.
ldssdl
10/14/19 2:00pm
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CrashMcLarson
10/14/19 2:16pm
I have confidence he wouldn’t go straight buddy route unless
MatthiasPhunkHausen
10/14/19 2:55pm
There's no requirement for assistants to be LDS. That should be much easier.
Ash
10/14/19 3:16pm
If he could bring in maybe Peterson at OC and Poppinga at DC, I think that would
Dynasty1
10/14/19 1:52pm
Certainly couldn't be worse than what we have now
MikeDitka'sStache
10/14/19 2:00pm
And if not Poppinga then Justin Ena as DC.
RdF3
10/14/19 2:03pm
I could jump on board that train.
mudpupper
10/14/19 2:05pm
Potential Rest of Offensive Staff:
MikeDitka'sStache
10/14/19 2:15pm
I like it but why would Jason Beck come back in a lateral move?
BYU Fan
10/14/19 2:17pm
Yeah, I don't see him coming back for anything less than OC
Dynasty1
10/14/19 2:26pm
give him the co-OC title, with a clear trajectory to promotion if he performs.
MikeDitka'sStache
10/14/19 2:27pm
Peterson will get better HC offers then Dixie soon. He’s turning the
bigbossbyu
10/14/19 5:39pm
Crazy young. Could be around for a LONG time
puntersarepeople
10/14/19 6:11pm
The trajectory looks great over 5.5 seasons, similar to Bronco's at UVA.
ldssdl
10/14/19 1:55pm
Wow I didn’t know all that. If we don’t fire Kalani and hire him now we might
JollyGreenGiant
10/14/19 1:57pm
Seems like a good option, but I'm nervous about how well FCS success translates
Jesse Pinkman
10/14/19 1:57pm
Honest question(s)
ldssdl
10/14/19 2:02pm
Fair points. Montana was a powerhouse in the 15 years before Glenn/Hauck
Jesse Pinkman
10/14/19 2:11pm
Isn't it all relative? It's still FCS vs FCS results, and it's about what
Lip Gallagher
10/14/19 2:04pm
Assuming he is a member? Saw he went to Ricks.
TPcoug
10/14/19 1:59pm
RM married in temple. Dad was seminary teacher.
Big Daddy D
10/14/19 2:00pm
Insanity
wbcougster
10/14/19 2:00pm
Maybe we should baptize Charlie Strong and he could be our next HC?
StarMan
10/14/19 2:00pm
I agree. I'd be fine with Hill, Anderson or Anae.
CaliWG
10/14/19 2:01pm
I think Beck will eventually become a BYU HC. Id love him as OC under Hill.
MikeDitka'sStache
10/14/19 2:02pm
Besides being a student of the game, what makes us think Beck would be any better than Grimes?
Bob Vance
10/14/19 2:07pm
Beck needs to get his feet wet first unless he comes under an offensive HC.
Lip Gallagher
10/14/19 2:09pm
Anyone but Dr. Bob. Even Kenny Niumatlulolo and the wishbone over Bob.
TPcoug
10/14/19 2:02pm
Anae is better than what we currently have.
Cougar TD
10/14/19 2:07pm
We know his coaching philosophy & that his system works at BYU
CaliWG
10/14/19 2:08pm
Those names are all over the place. It would depend on the combo.
Lip Gallagher
10/14/19 2:08pm
Anderson with Poppinga would be a solid fit
CaliWG
10/14/19 2:13pm
Eh, still not interested in him as a HC.
Lip Gallagher
10/14/19 2:37pm
I'm not really impressed with their offenses outside of Fesi's.
Lip Gallagher
10/14/19 2:04pm
What are the stats of Weber's offenses before, during, and after Fesi?
ldssdl
10/14/19 2:06pm
Fesi was Weber State's OC 2016-17
Odysseus
10/14/19 2:14pm
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RockyBalboa
10/14/19 2:18pm
RE: What are the stats of Weber's offenses before, during, and after Fesi?
Lip Gallagher
10/14/19 2:31pm
They’ve played two FBS teams so far which skews this year’s stats a bit. No doubt Jay would need a solid OC though
Odysseus
10/14/19 2:37pm
It's FCS. They're all playing FBS schools at some point. And many of them
Lip Gallagher
10/14/19 2:47pm
He also wont take a kid if gpa is less than 2.75 in core classes
CarolinaCoug
10/14/19 2:08pm
When Jay Hill goes the FBS route it won't be to BYU
RockyBalboa
10/14/19 2:19pm
That's what I've heard as well.
Eddie
10/14/19 2:22pm
Me too. Weber State is his DREAM job
cougarnw
10/14/19 3:07pm
Do you know him personally or something? It seems like it would be a no brainer
Dynasty1
10/14/19 2:23pm
People who do know him personally and who have asked him about BYU...
Eddie
10/14/19 2:29pm
Unless taking the BYU job puts him at a severe disadvantage going forward
BYU Fan
10/14/19 2:29pm
In all fairness - we're talking about an EXTREMELY small sample size.
Eddie
10/14/19 2:32pm
That's not really true. LaVell has as big of a coaching tree as anybody in NCAA
Dynasty1
10/14/19 2:32pm
Eh...people don't take the HC job at BYU to turn it into an OC job elsewhere.
Eddie
10/14/19 2:37pm
True but that happens all of the time. An example, Sarkisian squandered his HC
Dynasty1
10/14/19 2:41pm
Probably what killed his opportunity top be a HC elsewhere was the rape scandal
goobermcmonkey
10/14/19 3:26pm
Let's look at recent history - yes Lavell had some great coaches but this isn't
BYU Fan
10/14/19 2:42pm
AMEN!!!
Palestra
10/14/19 8:30pm
Or if he could get BYU to 8-9 wins every year, he has his pick at aP5 opening.
cougaman
10/14/19 2:26pm
He may have that soon anyway without going to BYU
BYU Fan
10/14/19 2:30pm
No FCS HC is going to "have their pick" of P5 programs.
Resurgens
10/14/19 8:06pm
Similar things were said about Notre Dame for years
CaliWG
10/14/19 2:29pm
ND suddenly got better when they pseudo-joined the ACC.
BrobaFett
10/14/19 10:48pm
FBS jobs are hard to come by. He's not turning anyone down from BYU who comes offering.
Turnpike Lane
10/14/19 2:35pm
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Gustav
10/14/19 2:50pm
Didn't the guy who made NDSU an FCS powerhouse get his big FBS break at mighty
Resurgens
10/14/19 8:08pm
Yeah, he's in such demand right now. He'd turn down 1 of 130 possible jobs.
Benfica1
10/14/19 2:51pm
Easy for him to say now.
Carnac
10/14/19 2:58pm
How many FBS offers has he turned down?
cougarnw
10/14/19 3:09pm
They’re ranked #5 nationally FCS too, great D, &
MatthiasPhunkHausen
10/14/19 2:35pm
The only issue is how many times “FCS” and not “FBS” is used
kscores2
10/14/19 3:58pm
Jay Hill will listen...
Vernon Dozier
10/14/19 4:14pm
So he's gonna pass on BYU so he can go coach New Mexico?
CaliWG
10/14/19 4:34pm
Doubt UNM.. but Nevada or CSU?
Vernon Dozier
10/14/19 5:42pm
It depends on if it's easier to get noticed by a P5 program there.
displacedute
10/14/19 5:43pm
Also Jay Hill’s dream job is Utah...
Vernon Dozier
10/14/19 5:46pm
Agreed, he's third in line there.
Mrs Featerbottom
10/14/19 6:58pm
I bet the behind the scenes fight for Utah when KW retires is going to be big.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/14/19 7:09pm
Just out of curiosity -
Eddie
10/15/19 1:09am
If that’s the case I hope he’s honest and wish him the best.
Dr MoBYU
10/14/19 8:20pm
Pretty convincing.
Dr MoBYU
10/14/19 5:43pm
Yup, thought the same think when I looked up his record and posted about it.....
BleedCougarBlue2
10/14/19 6:57pm
RE: The more I learn about Jay Hill the more I like him as a candidate for next
Blewballs
10/14/19 11:28pm
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