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Dec 13, 2019
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Dynasty1
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Utah does seem to produce quite a bit of FBS talent for a small state of around
3 million people. I wish we were still competitive in landing the best of them
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Top rated in-State players list
CallingDingo
12/13/19 8:49am
This is why BYU rushes 3
Indy Coug
12/13/19 8:51am
BYU gets the leftovers
Backcountry
12/13/19 8:51am
#6 Falslev is a basketball recruit. Makes me question the whole list.
bluebrotha
12/13/19 5:32pm
He’s both. He’s the #6 football recruit in the state, he’s just not going to
Scratch
12/13/19 5:34pm
Geez. That’s pretty bad.
cougfanz
12/13/19 8:52am
That’s what happens when you lose. Win games and that changes
letthewookiewin
12/13/19 8:53am
One of the most illogical, ridiculous opinions perpetuated on CB
Backcountry
12/13/19 8:57am
Nah, winning installs trust in coaches/schemes from recruits and players. Those
Benfica1
12/13/19 9:00am
P5>independence. No honor code> honor code.
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 9:37am
A perfect summation of the current predicament
Backcountry
12/13/19 9:53am
Choosing Utah allows even members of the church to have the best of both worlds.
DoseOfReality
12/13/19 10:08am
That is exactly why Utah is far and away the best destination for elite LDS
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:14am
Believe it or not, some kids value a quality education (BYU or Stanford)
Cougar76
12/13/19 11:24am
Additionally, statistically, you're MUCH more likely to go on a mission and/or
Cougar76
12/13/19 11:30am
Like anyone could ever know that.
Scratch
12/13/19 11:38am
Actually, there was a recent study that proved exactly that
Cougar76
12/13/19 11:44am
Proved?
Scratch
12/13/19 11:47am
Link: (provided by your very own Daily Chronicle
Cougar76
12/13/19 12:14pm
LOL, that study is even less meaningful than I imagined based on what you said,
Scratch
12/13/19 12:28pm
RE: LOL, that study is even less meaningful than I imagined based on what you
Cougar76
12/13/19 1:05pm
Correlation is not causation.
CrimsonCardinal
12/13/19 6:14pm
RE: Correlation is not causation.
Cougar76
12/13/19 6:52pm
That gif encapsulates the “BYU Experience.”
CrimsonCardinal
12/13/19 10:49pm
RE: That gif encapsulates the “BYU Experience.”
Cougar76
12/14/19 8:51am
Meh, not really.
Benfica1
12/13/19 12:18pm
not so true for basketball. the U has big apathy for basketball due to being
cwilke1
12/13/19 11:29am
UU basketball USED TO BE a big ticket item. Losing seasons brought apathy. WIN
Benfica1
12/13/19 12:20pm
Lottery winner > speeding ticket. Winning > not winning.
Benfica1
12/13/19 9:57am
Mostly due to horrific, incompetent leadership.
Backcountry
12/13/19 9:59am
Wow. Now that's a bit over the top.
Benfica1
12/13/19 10:00am
P5 > "G5+"(pac-12) > Independence > G5
cougarnw
12/13/19 12:25pm
So you think it’s a coincidence that teams like Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State
Dynasty1
12/13/19 9:09am
No, they all cheat at the same level
airwolf
12/13/19 9:20am
I disagree. Some of them cheat at a higher level than the others.
CougarThug
12/13/19 9:28am
The level probably correlates well with their winning national championships
airwolf
12/13/19 9:37am
I don't think so.
letthewookiewin
12/13/19 9:20am
They win games because they wreck us in recruiting because they are P5
Backcountry
12/13/19 9:54am
So if BYU had gone undefeated the past three years in a row and
1CougFan
12/13/19 9:36am
Honestly, do you guy not recognize that it's impossible to go undefeated with
Backcountry
12/13/19 9:56am
Do tell what is more important than winning?
Pretorian
12/13/19 9:39am
P5 inclusion. Elimination of an archaic honor code. Facility improvements.
Backcountry
12/13/19 9:58am
HC isn't going anywhere, you have no idea about coaching salaries, Facility
Pretorian
12/13/19 2:09pm
I take back my post of the year comment for your earlier post 🙂
AingeEraCoug
12/13/19 10:02pm
Yeah backcountry I’m going to have to go ahead and agree with this one. Ur wrong
Punk Philosopher
12/14/19 3:34am
I would argue that BYU is currently overachieving as an independent team
Backcountry
12/14/19 10:15am
My point is that without the benefits if P5 inclusion, we cant and wont
Backcountry
12/14/19 10:14am
Respectfully disagree
AingeEraCoug
12/14/19 12:56pm
Exactly.
Benfica1
12/13/19 8:58am
at least BYU has 9 of the 30 and is still ahead of USU
cwilke1
12/13/19 8:56am
Honest question, are those top guys academically eligible to go to BYU?
the_byu_flash
12/13/19 8:53am
Ah...the old "not smart or righteous enough" question
Backcountry
12/13/19 8:57am
No, it is the ole "BYU has higher academic standards than lots of other schools"
OGSuperfan
12/13/19 9:00am
Let's see, the top few guys committed to or leaning to the U from that list
Scratch
12/13/19 9:36am
I’m not saying they couldn’t. I was genuinely curious
the_byu_flash
12/13/19 9:57am
Alamo!
LumberCoug
12/13/19 11:37am
IF these higher standards exist, they are self imposed. Elminate self imposed
Backcountry
12/13/19 10:00am
completely agree with you on that point. I don't see a reason for it.
OGSuperfan
12/13/19 10:03am
Um, it's real.
Level43
12/13/19 9:10am
Some aren’t LDS one wanted to play with his brother.
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 9:32am
What are those standards? Does anybody know what they are for both schools?
DoseOfReality
12/13/19 10:12am
Yes, every single one.
displacedute
12/13/19 10:16am
I love the "BYU can take prop 48 students". When was the last time they did that
Lance71
12/13/19 10:57am
Dayan Ghanwoloku publicly was a prop 48
displacedute
12/13/19 12:04pm
And had to sit a year
stansburycoug
12/13/19 12:08pm
Right, because that's the NCAA rule. But the point is that he could go to BYU
Scratch
12/13/19 12:30pm
Such an interesting situation overall
stansburycoug
12/13/19 1:10pm
Conferences set limits on non-qualifiers. MWC allows none.
jrj84105
12/13/19 9:13pm
And is literally the only one Ute fans can ever come up with
BYU '80
12/13/19 8:38pm
RE: Yes, every single one.
LumberCoug
12/13/19 11:40am
Meaning BYU took 1. The Lake case will live on
BYU '80
12/13/19 8:38pm
I absolutely love the irony in this post.
Scratch
12/13/19 9:21pm
It is really not that tough to get in as a football player.
Cougstreak
12/13/19 10:59am
But could they stay?
1CougFan
12/13/19 11:03am
Why would Raass go to UCLA? Dad and bro were awesome at the Y.
Benfica1
12/13/19 8:56am
Umm.. because its UCLA..
TheLost
12/13/19 9:08am
Yeah, UCLA football.
Benfica1
12/13/19 9:10am
I know a kid who played for UCLA..
TheLost
12/13/19 9:14am
So it's not about who they played for nearly as much as it's about how good they
StarMan
12/13/19 9:36am
People asked the same questions when X signed with them
cougfanz
12/13/19 9:46am
And was it UCLA or the player that got him into the NFL?
Benfica1
12/13/19 9:57am
RE: And was it UCLA or the player that got him into the NFL?
TheLost
12/13/19 10:20am
And that doesn't happen at BYU? I believe it does.
Benfica1
12/13/19 12:23pm
X was close to being ready as a freshman
stansburycoug
12/13/19 1:12pm
Not saying this is the reason....
Cougar86
12/13/19 9:54am
You realize ratings are completely loaded right? If they are thinking of going
OGSuperfan
12/13/19 8:58am
Hit the nail on the head brotha, ratings are subjective and
1CougFan
12/13/19 9:30am
So since #2,3,4, and 7 aren't committed yet, does that mean they will get
BYUheaven
12/13/19 9:44am
No - they are ranked high because they are "linked" to P5 schools. Depending on
OGSuperfan
12/13/19 10:18am
6 to Utah, 9 to BYU. But how many of 9 to BYU did Utah or others want?
CosmoK
12/13/19 8:59am
RE: 6 to Utah, 9 to BYU. But how many of 9 to BYU did Utah or others want?
displacedute
12/13/19 10:25am
Yeah five of those guys are not even commits and you declare them wins
BYU '80
12/13/19 8:40pm
I was told by one of the 247 guys that Utah would take Schoonover
Gathers
12/13/19 4:47pm
Coach Whitt has been calling Schoonover personally every week
cougaraficionado
12/13/19 5:57pm
6) is going to Utah to play basketball, not football.
Turnpike Lane
12/13/19 8:59am
= even worse ’in-state’ results since Bronco departed. Ugh!
MichCoug
12/13/19 9:01am
P5>independence
PessimisticCB
12/13/19 9:33am
Utah does seem to produce quite a bit of FBS talent for a small state of around
Dynasty1
12/13/19 9:01am
Thank goodness for the recruiting bump from extending Kalani.
byubyu
12/13/19 9:02am
Losing, honor code and PAC12>Indy....3 big reasons
YSeattle
12/13/19 9:05am
Look again..
TheLost
12/13/19 9:12am
Falslev isn't planning to play football and other realities on the top 5
stansburycoug
12/13/19 9:05am
What's the story on Ritchie?
YSeattle
12/13/19 9:10am
It's been hashed out pretty well here
stansburycoug
12/13/19 10:01am
We have worldwide access to talent through the church
OU Cougar
12/13/19 9:05am
Ziggy’s don’t grow on trees and most of the world doesn’t play football
Dynasty1
12/13/19 9:07am
This is why we shouldn't hope for any U of U success
MikeDitka'sStache
12/13/19 9:18am
Not exactly. BYU's about to get a very good commit who was a strong Utah lean
Scratch
12/13/19 9:43am
In fact, the kid BYU's about to get will be BYU's best recruit this year per 247
Scratch
12/13/19 9:54am
Gentry should be BYU's best get this year
stansburycoug
12/13/19 10:07am
Oh yeah, if BYU gets him that would be huge. I just meant the best based on who
Scratch
12/13/19 10:18am
so you are arguing that Utah success makes him more interested in BYU as plan B?
Scooter
12/13/19 9:59am
The argument makes sense
stansburycoug
12/13/19 10:05am
What do you mean? Historically, Utah and BYU have competed for a lot of the
Scratch
12/13/19 10:07am
This all may be true, but a top recruite in the state of Utah will be recruited
Scooter
12/13/19 10:18am
And they will also be recruited by USC, Washington, Stanford, Oregon, etc.
Scratch
12/13/19 10:23am
RE: This all may be true, but a top recruite in the state of Utah will be
BuckElk
12/13/19 11:17am
Interesting thought, and one I haven't considered
4mack
12/13/19 11:56am
Doesn’t mean they would get them, especially if they weren’t winning
1CougFan
12/13/19 12:19pm
It'd be interesting to know
Tortillero
12/13/19 9:27am
As far as I know 2 and 3 were the ones not offered
stansburycoug
12/13/19 10:43am
I wouldn't call the BYU ones "left overs". Recruiting is not simply stars.
ImuaKahuku
12/13/19 9:31am
Who knew that one day we'd be looking at not getting the top Utah recruits as
StarMan
12/13/19 9:39am
Bodie Schoonover may be leaning UCLA
Heydude32
12/13/19 10:06am
Brutal
Hoax
12/13/19 10:12am
Mason Falslev is committed to play basketball....not football
RockyBalboa
12/13/19 10:14am
And Even with the inherent P5 Advantage, Utah Embarrassed Themselves
Uncle Bluto
12/13/19 10:18am
10-30. That's where we really shine.
Ham
12/13/19 10:21am
What’s with all the skipped numbers?
Alsippi89
12/13/19 10:34am
The recruiting sites like 247 sports are basically rumor mills..
TheLost
12/13/19 10:39am
This list must be inaccurate because BYU and Utah don't recruit the same kids.
CougaRR4L
12/13/19 10:46am
I've been told that's why I can cheer for both.
CougaRR4L
12/13/19 10:47am
How many BYU commits have Utah offers?
TheLost
12/13/19 11:01am
It's correct and you're right, the top 2 Utah leans don't have offers
stansburycoug
12/13/19 10:59am
What about the next 4?
CougaRR4L
12/13/19 11:02am
RE: What about the next 4?
TheLost
12/13/19 11:08am
Look clearly, Utah is winning more of these battles right now
CougaRR4L
12/13/19 11:38am
RE: Look clearly, Utah is winning more of these battles right now
TheLost
12/13/19 11:51am
I wouldn't say "nothing," but in general you're right.
Scratch
12/13/19 12:02pm
So are you arguing that BYU does not compete regularly with Utah for recruits?
CougaRR4L
12/13/19 12:42pm
We'd be better off in the MWC.
Big Time 55
12/13/19 11:04am
This is the worst we have ever done. It shows the state of the program
kimdaddy35
12/13/19 11:24am
This is true. I don't remember us ever being this bad in state
Cougar76
12/13/19 11:25am
Something people need to get used to is the demographic of the state.
Lip Gallagher
12/13/19 6:15pm
Even if you’re a kid who wants to live the honor code I’d imagine you’d weigh if
SouthernBlueBlood
12/13/19 11:45am
You play the hand you are dealt, play to your strengths, and improve your
Trent
12/13/19 12:22pm
Excellent. Been saying this for a long time now.
Punk Philosopher
12/14/19 4:04am
And people say we don’t compete head to head with Utah much
D.T. Survivor
12/13/19 12:35pm
Those are two very different things. This list enforces one of those things,
Scratch
12/13/19 12:44pm
It depends on the year and the focus recruits. It's true that there's still
Lip Gallagher
12/13/19 12:49pm
Very few people say those things. Although uu does go out of state more now.
Benfica1
12/13/19 1:17pm
I'm with you buddy but I have been yelled at here.
CougaRR4L
12/13/19 2:24pm
Agree +1
YSeattle
12/13/19 2:34pm
Utah will not get a single player from the state of Utah this year who had BYU
Scratch
12/13/19 2:49pm
Dang. We really need some players to develop better than projected.
Gerald-DeGroot
12/13/19 2:34pm
How many of our best players come from Utah? Jamaal, KVN, Taysom weren't.
BYUCougarsFan
12/13/19 2:45pm
In 2016 BYU had 4 of the top 5 and 8 out of 10 top Utah
Str8CashCougar
12/13/19 5:18pm
*2017
Lip Gallagher
12/13/19 5:40pm
So Ritchie and Raas are BYU legacy correct?
BYU '80
12/13/19 8:35pm
We do. Do you expect to get every single one of them?
Lip Gallagher
12/13/19 8:58pm
We rarely get any these days
BYU '80
12/13/19 9:09pm
Nonsense. We likely still get more than we lose. Don't be dramatic
Lip Gallagher
12/13/19 9:14pm
Nick session is committed to OkSU
BYUAnime
12/13/19 11:54pm
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