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Harrison0Yfan
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Thoughts from BYU Pres. and VP of Advancement (over Athletics)
WiCougarman
10/31/14 7:03am
a lot of wiggle room here, but that is a little bit concerning.
Iman23
10/31/14 7:12am
Agree with the sentiment.
BluePete
10/31/14 7:13am
I think there are still a fair number of schools who also dont want college
vacougfan
10/31/14 7:15am
Then pull the plug now. No sense in stringing the fanbase along with half-yewt
UNLVcougar
10/31/14 8:00am
Can't. I'm fresh out of authority.
BluePete
10/31/14 8:05am
Thanks Wi man.. disappointing to hear the comment by the VP of Athletics
jota
10/31/14 7:18am
I'm glad they acknowledged the importance of winning though.
GA_Coug
10/31/14 7:25am
Yea, this should be good news to loyal fans
Busiturtle
10/31/14 8:18am
Social media sites can be useful in finding valuable information
GA_Coug
10/31/14 7:21am
In other words, BYU won't pay players a stipend?
zelph
10/31/14 7:26am
I think the stipend for full cost of attendance is something they will do
BYUFam1
10/31/14 7:28am
Holmoe already announced BYU would match the power conferences on stipends
bluefish
10/31/14 9:55am
Those words weren't in the quote. Saying that is what they meant is putting
lightmann
10/31/14 9:10am
Translation:
randomplay
10/31/14 7:33am
That's called monetizing and merchandising, not professionalizing
jota
10/31/14 7:39am
Agree
Busiturtle
10/31/14 7:44am
Better translation:
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 7:44am
I agree with most of what you're saying,
randomplay
10/31/14 7:57am
I generally agree with what you are saying. I think a big thick line is being
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 8:21am
Your analogy resonates,
randomplay
10/31/14 9:22am
Very good points. Unfortunately, BYU cannot control what the emerging
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 6:55pm
True
randomplay
10/31/14 9:16pm
You're missing the picture. BYU football will remain profitable regardless.
Yunit
10/31/14 12:23pm
Good thoughts. Two potential problems, though. First, what about Title IX?
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 7:04pm
Mens teams will be cut...Tennis, Golf, Swim, etc.
CougarPilot
11/1/14 9:11am
If other schools with larger budgets do the same, then we are right back where
NewMexiCoug
11/1/14 12:40pm
Title IX would not apply if BYU professionalized sports. My good friend
Yunit
11/1/14 1:26pm
Interesting to hear. However, professionalizing CFB would turn it completely
NewMexiCoug
11/4/14 7:58pm
How is that any different than what BYU is going through today?
Yunit
11/4/14 8:44pm
See my comment above...
Yunit
11/1/14 1:30pm
The church just spent a few billion dollars in a shopping center
kotacoug
10/31/14 8:12am
That would represent an entirely different model for funding BYU Athletics
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 8:28am
oh dread
warp
10/31/14 8:37am
I really doubt the Church wants to get into the professional sports
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 8:53am
revenue comes form general donations to the Church
kotacoug
10/31/14 9:04am
That seed money was generated decades or even a century ago. The only way
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 7:08pm
RE: The church just spent a few billion dollars in a shopping center
panguitch
10/31/14 8:38am
what's your problem then if the Brethren say the football program needs
kotacoug
10/31/14 9:06am
RE: what's your problem then if the Brethren say the football program needs
panguitch
10/31/14 9:16am
haha OK the $$ didn't come from 'tithing' it came from 'donations' to the
kotacoug
10/31/14 9:29am
and for the record, I have no issue whatsoever with the Church building
kotacoug
10/31/14 9:30am
RE: haha OK the $$ didn't come from 'tithing' it came from 'donations' to the
panguitch
10/31/14 10:19am
maybe then the bigger issue is the fact
whiteninja
10/31/14 10:35am
RE: maybe then the bigger issue is the fact
panguitch
10/31/14 10:48am
The whole university system is based on bailouts. You think the
kotacoug
10/31/14 11:08am
RE: The whole university system is based on bailouts. - This is ridiculous
Maximumkungfu
10/31/14 3:15pm
You're confused...
kingpin2k
10/31/14 5:35pm
No I'm not.
Maximumkungfu
10/31/14 6:47pm
Allow me to correct your ignorance
kingpin2k
10/31/14 9:52pm
Thanks for the correction on title 9 but...
Maximumkungfu
11/1/14 7:26am
The real estate developemt arm is largely funded by donations to the church
kotacoug
10/31/14 11:18am
Now that they are paying the athlete, its only a matter of time before
bald man
10/31/14 7:38am
Whether BYU admins like it or not it's already headed that way
RockyBalboa
10/31/14 7:39am
this. did you see the recent Pac12 policies?
run26
10/31/14 9:03am
I've always figured that if required to pay athletes, BYU would get out of
Texas Hammer
10/31/14 7:42am
Some of the critizing isn't critizing. its flat out attacks and refects
bald man
10/31/14 7:46am
True. No such thing as "constructive" criticism.....for some
SUAVO
10/31/14 8:18am
So you're saying that the difference is based on intent
CoopDizz
10/31/14 8:18am
Hm, not really. If you understand English, tone, and word usage
bald man
10/31/14 8:37am
That's a tremendous oversimplification, particularly regarding the written word
CoopDizz
10/31/14 8:44am
I don't see how we aren't talking about the same thing here
bald man
10/31/14 8:55am
The CB rules lay out fairly clearly the "proper" way to be "non-positive" or to
ByuMba90
10/31/14 8:40am
There's an easy way to spot 95% of the "bashing"
El Jefe
10/31/14 8:47am
Constructive criticism can be accomplished without injecting
bald man
10/31/14 9:00am
Of course it can, but that's not logically equivalent to saying negativity -
CoopDizz
10/31/14 10:34am
links?
BYUtiful
10/31/14 9:21am
But Bronco gets a free pass in labling the fans...
Smoke Monster
10/31/14 9:51am
I don't think Bronco got a free pass for the Sadducees comment.
bald man
10/31/14 10:02am
I do believe there really is a mindset at BYU...
Smoke Monster
10/31/14 10:10am
I think on the same wavelength as you here.
bald man
10/31/14 10:22am
Well said. Funny how hit pigeons still flutter (ref: responses here)
BluePete
10/31/14 10:08am
I am constantly amazed how our society doesn't want to accept
bald man
10/31/14 10:11am
Ban the word Bossy right now... and don't you dare say Illegal or else
Smoke Monster
10/31/14 10:14am
Like which critique do you consider a personal attack?
CougarEatU
10/31/14 11:08am
I fully agree some have gone off the rails and are flat out embarrassing
MatthiasG
10/31/14 8:29pm
I would ask for links, but I don't think your straw man has any
byutx
10/31/14 8:42pm
How did you sell tickets? We marketed to interested people ... Are they though?
Art Director
10/31/14 7:43am
RE: Thoughts from BYU Pres. and VP of Advancement (over Athletics)
concolor couguar
10/31/14 7:45am
RE: Thoughts from BYU Pres. and VP of Advancement (over Athletics)
fan32
10/31/14 7:57am
Not fans because people are upset with state of the program? That's ridiculous.
garyfan
10/31/14 8:05am
Most universities couldn't afford to "professionalize" sports
CBaass
10/31/14 8:23am
Will be interesting to hear what Worthen says today
unctoothman
10/31/14 8:28am
RE: Will be interesting to hear what Worthen says today
WiCougarman
10/31/14 8:32am
VP context
WiCougarman
10/31/14 8:31am
What gets posted on CB is pretty tame compared to other fan sites.
Texas Hammer
10/31/14 8:44am
The problem with CB is the crazies outnumber those making well-reasoned comments
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 8:45am
"Everybody is crazy but me."
UNLVcougar
10/31/14 8:49am
I would say it's the opposite
Sea Chicken
10/31/14 8:50am
Good point. I was going by volume
NewMexiCoug
10/31/14 8:55am
I thought the final word your post was leading up to was "insanity" and then you
ByuMba90
10/31/14 9:01am
Ah, the ol' "he doesn't agree with me, so he must be crazy" approach. lol
Texas Hammer
10/31/14 9:11am
I disagree on your ratio. Maybe 1/4
lawboy
10/31/14 8:51am
I don't disagree, but I don't think we're seeing "passion". As you noted,
ByuMba90
10/31/14 9:04am
That absolutely is passion.
lawboy
10/31/14 9:12am
One person's "passion" is another's "crazies"
Texas Hammer
10/31/14 9:12am
RE: VP context
Smoke Monster
10/31/14 9:54am
i would think that the fans should be happy to know that they are aware of the
macaroni
10/31/14 11:10am
Stanford has said the same thing about paying athletes.
Josef K
10/31/14 9:08am
They may say they won't pay, but when it comes down to it, they'll do as they're
vacougfan
10/31/14 9:20am
Stanford would choose the Ivy League model over the pro model.
Josef K
10/31/14 11:00am
I would completely understand BYU abandoning athletics if they go pro
jhingman
10/31/14 9:38am
If they go pro the NFL will likely lift its rules encouraging athletes to attend
JAGA97
10/31/14 11:37am
Possibly, and that would completely destroy college football as we know it
jhingman
10/31/14 11:47am
It wouldn't surprise me to see several states bring about new legislation.
JAGA97
10/31/14 2:44pm
So according to the VP, you're not a fan if you say anything negative?
Harrison0Yfan
10/31/14 9:45am
You read more into that comment than do.
dratax
10/31/14 9:58am
Would you care to point out that is what he said or even meant or is
Real G Man
10/31/14 11:17am
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deljdc
10/31/14 1:27pm
The truth is, and always has been, that it is not criticism of the coach that is
rockhound
10/31/14 1:27pm
The truth is, you're calling things personal attacks
CougarEatU
10/31/14 2:14pm
Those of you saying I'm reading into this too much,
Harrison0Yfan
10/31/14 5:06pm
I get not being happy with some of the stuff in the last month
Blue for Life
10/31/14 10:01am
Hey, he was right: it did end up on Cougarboard!
Japan Coug
10/31/14 11:32am
It already is professionalized.... It's just universities, TV, NCAA etc. are
kingpin2k
10/31/14 1:46pm
Fans aren't Yes-men. Fans have differing opinions and many speak their minds...
icecougar
10/31/14 8:01pm
Pretty lame to correct the name of your most passionate fans as "affiliates".
8man
10/31/14 9:27pm
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