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Jul 21, 2021
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run26
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i think the ambiguity about his inability to serve a mission is working against
him. BYU probably views him as some kind of unworthy risk. That's how some of the folks there think when it comes to admissions
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Can't believe what BYU admissions has become - so frustrated rn, any ideas?
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 1:00pm
That sucks. He doesn't have any other Math, Science or English teachers he could get an recommendation from?
supertux
7/21/21 1:05pm
We are trying that, but they need to remember him from over a year ago now.
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 1:29pm
The front page of BYU's handbook must say NO EXCEPTIONS EVER
Mostlyaccurate
7/21/21 1:08pm
BYU and deferment is a mess. They do not handle it well.
TheWanderer
7/21/21 1:09pm
BYU as a whole is the most inflexible institution I’ve ever interacted with
Joysey
7/21/21 1:09pm
I see you have never interacted with Federal bureaucracy before.
thecthdox
7/21/21 1:26pm
Here's a hope...Maybe BYU is the Telestial version of the Church's University...
Pangare
7/21/21 2:54pm
Why would you even want to go to a school like that? Go somewhere better and
Backcountry
7/21/21 1:10pm
Agreed. Don't go there.
johnnycarson
7/21/21 1:15pm
CB PSA: Please stop sending your kids to BYU. Send them elsewhere.
TheWanderer
7/21/21 1:23pm
That really sucks. BYU is so programmatic about these types of things
BlackBart
7/21/21 1:11pm
Maybe someone can confirm that BYU night classes / BYU SLC is a good option here
BlackBart
7/21/21 2:27pm
They presented that option to me, so yes. Thanks.
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 3:47pm
Have him enroll at UVU and then if he feels the need after his mission he can transfer to the Y or he could get lucky
IceBlueCoug
7/21/21 1:11pm
This is a good option. My kids have enjoyed UVU
NYC and Japan
7/21/21 1:31pm
That’s so frustrating. I feel your pain, my son was not accepted out of HS so
kotacoug
7/21/21 1:11pm
I agree with your last paragraph. Do not defer until you have mission call in
rcbyufan
7/21/21 1:13pm
BYU's web page on mission deferment literally says as much.
Mississippi
7/21/21 2:15pm
Sounds like kind of a nightmare for your son and for you.
lightmann
7/21/21 1:15pm
Good advice. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 4:17pm
That really sucks. Of all the schools how does BYU not have sympathy regarding
Baron
7/21/21 1:19pm
From BYU's perspective though, let's say they accommodate him, then he has
rcbyufan
7/21/21 1:34pm
Good to know the Lords university still needs help being Christlike.
Adwight
7/21/21 1:20pm
I love BYU, but you are not wrong here. It's a problem. Not sure how
Mitty
7/21/21 2:32pm
BYU admin is one of the most un-Christlike uncharitable bunch I have ever come
Frank Drebin
7/21/21 1:21pm
Unchristlike?
BlackHawkCoug
7/21/21 1:35pm
Nothing you said excuses BYUs horrendous behavior and attitude toward humans.
Adwight
7/21/21 1:42pm
They do. The problem isn't with BYU. The problem is with the unreasonable
BlackHawkCoug
7/21/21 1:52pm
BTW, the donor appeal was facetious. I disagree that the school has to be so
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 2:03pm
That's fair. For the record, I very much hope your son receives his call soon.
BlackHawkCoug
7/21/21 2:08pm
I can draw my conclusions by how I was treated - like a dog
Frank Drebin
7/21/21 4:40pm
From what you are describing maybe we just need to increase admissions
Pangare
7/22/21 10:14am
So you went like a year without following the instructions BYU gave you and now just expect them to accommodate
YIsForBrigham
7/21/21 1:28pm
^^^ works in BYU admissions ^^^
Dread Pirate Westley
7/21/21 1:30pm
To which instructions do you refer? Providing a mission call to defer? How do
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 1:31pm
Get it before everyone else in the class is enrolling or enroll and wait for your mission call like everyone else
YIsForBrigham
7/21/21 1:32pm
The priority is a mission, something I thought BYU shared, so we didn't enroll
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 1:40pm
When it was clear the mission call wasn't coming before the school year, the proper course of action was obvious. You
YIsForBrigham
7/21/21 2:27pm
I'm not blaming BYU for my son's delay in mission plans or lack of enrollment
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 3:29pm
When it was clear a mission call wouldn’t come before Fall 2020, call BYU Admissions and let them know
KingDave
7/21/21 1:43pm
If they would have made an exception then, why didn't they do just that
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 1:51pm
I agree with KingDave that you should have addressed the situation immediately
kimdaddy35
7/21/21 2:02pm
Irresponsible is a bit harsh I would say. Yes, hindsight, I wish we would have
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 3:36pm
I'm not sure if there are accreditation issues, but no schools allow deferment
rcbyufan
7/21/21 3:49pm
Not true. I had a daughter attend BYUH and she deferred without ever providing
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 4:05pm
What did she do when she deferred?
rcbyufan
7/21/21 4:10pm
Sent an email saying "I am deferring for my mission; I will be back X semester"
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 4:11pm
One difference is that she had already attended school, as opposed to deferring
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 4:12pm
But she actually went on a mission?
rcbyufan
7/21/21 4:32pm
Yes, and her spot was there for her when she returned.
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 4:48pm
Again, she deferred for a valid reason. If your son had forgotten to send info
rcbyufan
7/21/21 4:56pm
So forgetting to do what you're told is ok, but taking longer to qualify for a
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 5:46pm
I guess you can call it whatever you want, but I don't understand why it wasn't
kimdaddy35
7/21/21 4:24pm
My son did not ignore their request, he responded that he would defer, they then
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 4:41pm
Again it isn't worth arguing over it with you, but if it were me running BYU
kimdaddy35
7/21/21 4:51pm
Doesn’t sound like a BYU problem to me.
LaVellIfIKnow
7/21/21 1:40pm
My son forgot to complete his mission deferment before leaving on his mission 2y ago
SaturdaySpecialDay
7/21/21 2:03pm
I'm not aware of any university that allows deferment without showing some
rcbyufan
7/21/21 2:26pm
BYUH just asks you to tell them when you'll be back. I don't know about BYUI.
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 4:06pm
I think they make exceptions for RM's, but not for potential missionaries, which
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 3:54pm
i think the ambiguity about his inability to serve a mission is working against
run26
7/21/21 2:25pm
Wow, I hadn't even considered that possibility. Yikes.
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 3:41pm
And here’s my problem with them having that attitude is that
Adwight
7/21/21 3:58pm
LOL that people are taking this comment as serious. Well done.
rcbyufan
7/21/21 4:01pm
It IS serious
run26
7/21/21 4:02pm
As serious as lobbing nukes at tornados?
Sid Vicious
7/21/21 4:05pm
Thank you. I can't stop laughing now.
rcbyufan
7/21/21 4:05pm
You have very little understanding of BYU Admissions if you think
run26
7/21/21 4:45pm
I have no doubt worthiness is part of the criteria. But we are talking about
rcbyufan
7/21/21 4:53pm
How would you explain the flexibility for RM’s who forgot to submit their call
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 5:36pm
No, because they were in a structured "program" during the deferment. You can
rcbyufan
7/21/21 5:43pm
One is verifying something that you told them would happen and didn't happen and
kimdaddy35
7/21/21 5:44pm
What a bunch of clowns. That is seriously low class.
Mitty
7/21/21 2:30pm
That's how Christ would have handled it, right?
Ragnar Danneskjold
7/21/21 3:32pm
Why isn’t your son making these calls?
molodyets
7/21/21 3:38pm
Really? You're going to go there? He is making the calls with me.
NOCAL_YFAN
7/21/21 3:44pm
Some on CB think that being completely absent from a kids life is good parenting
TheWanderer
7/21/21 3:47pm
Yes that’s exactly what I implied
molodyets
7/21/21 5:06pm
I was just going off of what you said.
molodyets
7/21/21 5:05pm
Become a UofU fan
salamishiitake
7/22/21 10:07pm
Seriously man? I'm not even a BYU fan and this is a horrible take.
Dread Pirate Westley
7/22/21 10:14pm
well yeah... it was a joke so...
salamishiitake
7/22/21 10:37pm
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