From BYU's perspective though, let's say they accommodate him, then he has

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Jul 21, 2021
1:34:31pm

rcbyufan All-American

From BYU's perspective though, let's say they accommodate him, then he has

effectively deferred for 3 or 3-1/2 years if he goes on a mission or at this point he has deferred for basically no reason other than potentially going on a mission. Almost all colleges require an accounting for your deferred admission. You have to be in some sort of structured program. Most schools will not just allow you to defer and do "nothing".

This becomes a logistical nightmare (but I agree that it is manageable) to allow large gaps in deferment. Ultimately, if you don't have a mission call in hand then you better be on the phone to BYU to figure out what to do or you better be taking classes.

I think the easiest solution is don't defer until you have a call in hand.

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Can't believe what BYU admissions has become - so frustrated rn, any ideas?

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:00pm

That sucks. He doesn't have any other Math, Science or English teachers he could get an recommendation from?

supertux

7/21/21 1:05pm

We are trying that, but they need to remember him from over a year ago now.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:29pm

The front page of BYU's handbook must say NO EXCEPTIONS EVER

7/21/21 1:08pm

BYU and deferment is a mess. They do not handle it well.

TheWanderer

7/21/21 1:09pm

BYU as a whole is the most inflexible institution I’ve ever interacted with

Joysey

7/21/21 1:09pm

I see you have never interacted with Federal bureaucracy before.

thecthdox

7/21/21 1:26pm

Here's a hope...Maybe BYU is the Telestial version of the Church's University...

Pangare

7/21/21 2:54pm

Why would you even want to go to a school like that? Go somewhere better and

Backcountry

7/21/21 1:10pm

Agreed. Don't go there.

7/21/21 1:15pm

CB PSA: Please stop sending your kids to BYU. Send them elsewhere.

TheWanderer

7/21/21 1:23pm

That really sucks. BYU is so programmatic about these types of things

BlackBart

7/21/21 1:11pm

Maybe someone can confirm that BYU night classes / BYU SLC is a good option here

BlackBart

7/21/21 2:27pm

They presented that option to me, so yes. Thanks.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:47pm

Have him enroll at UVU and then if he feels the need after his mission he can transfer to the Y or he could get lucky

IceBlueCoug

7/21/21 1:11pm

This is a good option. My kids have enjoyed UVU

NYC and Japan

7/21/21 1:31pm

That’s so frustrating. I feel your pain, my son was not accepted out of HS so

kotacoug

7/21/21 1:11pm

I agree with your last paragraph. Do not defer until you have mission call in

rcbyufan

7/21/21 1:13pm

BYU's web page on mission deferment literally says as much.

Mississippi

7/21/21 2:15pm

Sounds like kind of a nightmare for your son and for you.

lightmann

7/21/21 1:15pm

Good advice. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:17pm

That really sucks. Of all the schools how does BYU not have sympathy regarding

Baron

7/21/21 1:19pm

From BYU's perspective though, let's say they accommodate him, then he has

rcbyufan

7/21/21 1:34pm

Good to know the Lords university still needs help being Christlike.

Adwight

7/21/21 1:20pm

I love BYU, but you are not wrong here. It's a problem. Not sure how

Mitty

7/21/21 2:32pm

BYU admin is one of the most un-Christlike uncharitable bunch I have ever come

7/21/21 1:21pm

Unchristlike?

BlackHawkCoug

7/21/21 1:35pm

Nothing you said excuses BYUs horrendous behavior and attitude toward humans.

Adwight

7/21/21 1:42pm

They do. The problem isn't with BYU. The problem is with the unreasonable

BlackHawkCoug

7/21/21 1:52pm

BTW, the donor appeal was facetious. I disagree that the school has to be so

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 2:03pm

That's fair. For the record, I very much hope your son receives his call soon.

BlackHawkCoug

7/21/21 2:08pm

I can draw my conclusions by how I was treated - like a dog

7/21/21 4:40pm

From what you are describing maybe we just need to increase admissions

Pangare

7/22/21 10:14am

So you went like a year without following the instructions BYU gave you and now just expect them to accommodate

7/21/21 1:28pm

^^^ works in BYU admissions ^^^

Dread Pirate Westley

7/21/21 1:30pm

To which instructions do you refer? Providing a mission call to defer? How do

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:31pm

Get it before everyone else in the class is enrolling or enroll and wait for your mission call like everyone else

7/21/21 1:32pm

The priority is a mission, something I thought BYU shared, so we didn't enroll

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:40pm

When it was clear the mission call wasn't coming before the school year, the proper course of action was obvious. You

7/21/21 2:27pm

I'm not blaming BYU for my son's delay in mission plans or lack of enrollment

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:29pm

When it was clear a mission call wouldn’t come before Fall 2020, call BYU Admissions and let them know

KingDave

7/21/21 1:43pm

If they would have made an exception then, why didn't they do just that

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:51pm

I agree with KingDave that you should have addressed the situation immediately

kimdaddy35

7/21/21 2:02pm

Irresponsible is a bit harsh I would say. Yes, hindsight, I wish we would have

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:36pm

I'm not sure if there are accreditation issues, but no schools allow deferment

rcbyufan

7/21/21 3:49pm

Not true. I had a daughter attend BYUH and she deferred without ever providing

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:05pm

What did she do when she deferred?

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:10pm

Sent an email saying "I am deferring for my mission; I will be back X semester"

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:11pm

One difference is that she had already attended school, as opposed to deferring

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:12pm

But she actually went on a mission?

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:32pm

Yes, and her spot was there for her when she returned.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:48pm

Again, she deferred for a valid reason. If your son had forgotten to send info

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:56pm

So forgetting to do what you're told is ok, but taking longer to qualify for a

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 5:46pm

I guess you can call it whatever you want, but I don't understand why it wasn't

kimdaddy35

7/21/21 4:24pm

My son did not ignore their request, he responded that he would defer, they then

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:41pm

Again it isn't worth arguing over it with you, but if it were me running BYU

kimdaddy35

7/21/21 4:51pm

Doesn’t sound like a BYU problem to me.

7/21/21 1:40pm

My son forgot to complete his mission deferment before leaving on his mission 2y ago

SaturdaySpecialDay

7/21/21 2:03pm

I'm not aware of any university that allows deferment without showing some

rcbyufan

7/21/21 2:26pm

BYUH just asks you to tell them when you'll be back. I don't know about BYUI.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:06pm

I think they make exceptions for RM's, but not for potential missionaries, which

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:54pm

i think the ambiguity about his inability to serve a mission is working against

run26

7/21/21 2:25pm

Wow, I hadn't even considered that possibility. Yikes.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:41pm

And here’s my problem with them having that attitude is that

Adwight

7/21/21 3:58pm

LOL that people are taking this comment as serious. Well done.

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:01pm

It IS serious

run26

7/21/21 4:02pm

Thank you. I can't stop laughing now.

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:05pm

You have very little understanding of BYU Admissions if you think

run26

7/21/21 4:45pm

I have no doubt worthiness is part of the criteria. But we are talking about

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:53pm

How would you explain the flexibility for RM’s who forgot to submit their call

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 5:36pm

No, because they were in a structured "program" during the deferment. You can

rcbyufan

7/21/21 5:43pm

One is verifying something that you told them would happen and didn't happen and

kimdaddy35

7/21/21 5:44pm

What a bunch of clowns. That is seriously low class.

Mitty

7/21/21 2:30pm

That's how Christ would have handled it, right?

Ragnar Danneskjold

7/21/21 3:32pm

Why isn’t your son making these calls?

molodyets

7/21/21 3:38pm

Really? You're going to go there? He is making the calls with me.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:44pm

Some on CB think that being completely absent from a kids life is good parenting

TheWanderer

7/21/21 3:47pm

Yes that’s exactly what I implied

molodyets

7/21/21 5:06pm

I was just going off of what you said.

molodyets

7/21/21 5:05pm

Become a UofU fan

7/22/21 10:07pm

Seriously man? I'm not even a BYU fan and this is a horrible take.

Dread Pirate Westley

7/22/21 10:14pm

well yeah... it was a joke so...

7/22/21 10:37pm

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