Where did you get that from?Based from what?

Don't really like that directive. It amounts to a punishment for achievement

Skeptical Optimist

7/19/18 12:43pm

To play devil's advocate

Carnac

7/19/18 12:46pm

Yes. It is a church institution and to be fair it should accept the most-

byuwahoo

7/19/18 12:59pm

but it doesn't. they aren't being punished for doing well in GPA and ACT,

smokymountainrain

7/19/18 12:56pm

Every other school uses those metrics to decide who gets in. If BYU decides

Skeptical Optimist

7/19/18 1:12pm

fair. i just don't see it as a punishment, rather a reward for others. they

smokymountainrain

7/19/18 1:29pm

I'm sure the kid with the good grades and great test score who doesn't get

Skeptical Optimist

7/19/18 1:32pm

and maybe a crisis of faith for his/her whole family

byuwahoo

7/19/18 1:39pm

can't all be winners - some kid, somewhere is always going to feel like victim.

smokymountainrain

7/19/18 1:39pm

I think the thing you're missing in calling it a punishment

displacedute

7/19/18 1:40pm

I don't see that as true, either

CougarVeteran

7/19/18 7:19pm

BYU is very clear about their metrics, if you go to one of their presentations..

rmreitz

7/20/18 3:40pm

I wonder how this is actually implemented

Tricky

7/20/18 5:23pm

There are over 100K LDS HS Seniors every year in the US. Can't serve

Nat Gas Man

7/19/18 12:44pm

I don't think I like this.

JuicyJam

7/19/18 12:44pm

That is ridiculous and hopefully the person you spoke to is dead wrong about it. Rejecting the best and brightest so

Baron

7/19/18 12:46pm

Why do you think UVU is now the largest state school in Utah?

BYU Grounds

7/19/18 12:49pm

Because it is the best public University in the state.

BYUtka

7/19/18 1:05pm

lol. Its not better than the U. As much as I dislike the U its more rigorous than accepts anything with a

monkeycowboy

7/19/18 1:07pm

Then why are more students accepted to both choosing UVU over UofU?

BYUtka

7/19/18 1:09pm

how do you know this fact?

Nat Gas Man

7/19/18 1:16pm

It was widely published a year or more ago. It looked at all the schools in Utah

BYUtka

7/19/18 1:19pm

I looked again, still nothing.

displacedute

7/19/18 8:47pm

I found it.

displacedute

7/19/18 8:49pm

Not hard to find when it was on the first page of the board.

BYUtka

7/19/18 8:59pm

I actually looked at your old posts and found the one from last year.

displacedute

7/19/18 9:30pm

I shouldn't be surprised, you are a Yewt.

BYUtka

7/19/18 8:50pm

RE: I shouldn't be surprised, you are a Yewt.

displacedute

7/19/18 8:56pm

RE: Then why are more students accepted to both choosing UVU over UofU?

displacedute

7/19/18 1:17pm

So you are confirming that a UofU education is not worth the cost compared to

BYUtka

7/19/18 1:20pm

No, I'm saying you might take the cheaper option.

displacedute

7/19/18 1:28pm

Nope. UVU > Harvard i mean just look at its growth rate

monkeycowboy

7/19/18 1:38pm

Good point. UVU now the #1 school in America.

displacedute

7/19/18 1:50pm

How many kids, accepted to both are choosing UVU? UofU vs UVU, they are

BYUtka

7/19/18 1:56pm

Source?

displacedute

7/19/18 2:01pm

Des News I think. It was discussed at length on the board when the data came out

BYUtka

7/19/18 2:27pm

I looked and couldn't find it.

displacedute

7/19/18 2:30pm

And the circle comes around again. UVUs cost may have something to do with this also kids wanting to go to utah county.

monkeycowboy

7/19/18 2:02pm

Cost and location are part of the package that is better.

BYUtka

7/19/18 2:11pm

Agreed.

displacedute

7/19/18 2:15pm

Higher yield doesn't necessarily mean better academics

Resurgens

7/19/18 8:15pm

Probably lots of LDS kids that wanted the Provo "social" experience with other LDS kids.

Rhino84

7/20/18 10:47am

BYU is a different bird with different aims

Carnac

7/19/18 12:49pm

So glad that BYU rejecting a kid is BYU's way of telling them what is best for them because they can't do it otherwise.

Baron

7/19/18 12:52pm

Let them make that decision! Let each candidate that gets accepted to both BYU

byuwahoo

7/19/18 1:02pm

It's not rejecting the best and brightest. Just because you have a 32/4.0 does

RugbyCoug

7/19/18 12:52pm

The op was about rejecting "perfect" or the high achievers.

Baron

7/19/18 12:54pm

He's misinterpreting or making some inferences that are a little off track.

RugbyCoug

7/19/18 1:04pm

I have heard the same from BYU admissions people

rmreitz

7/20/18 3:44pm

If BYU wants to be more inclusive they should grow enrollment significantly

CaliWG

7/19/18 12:52pm

I suspect that they are wary of spending tithing dollars

Carnac

7/19/18 12:55pm

They have the money easily to expand.

Baron

7/19/18 12:56pm

I believe that BYU should increase the enrollment and student body significantly

Professor Coug

7/19/18 2:38pm

would you be ok if they went to 50K but doubled tuition

Nat Gas Man

7/19/18 4:24pm

Yes

NSFW

7/19/18 5:43pm

It is unfortunately true. BYU has gone to what they call a "holistic" approach. It's a way they can punish high

HarlemCoug

7/19/18 10:15pm

It isn't punishing scholastic achievement. It is considering more than just

rmreitz

7/20/18 3:47pm

GPA and ACT are the best metrics... they should be weighted accordingly. BYU should take the best. They don't and it's

HarlemCoug

7/20/18 9:04pm

You do realize that Harvard does the same thing. Execution might be different

LaserCoug

7/20/18 10:07pm

Harvard takes race into consideration in achieving its "well-roundedness"; I

Monomachos

7/20/18 10:46pm

I feel like there have been anecdotes on CB that suggest BYU also does.

Resurgens

7/21/18 7:44pm

So it should be only GPA & ACT, no essay, no extracurricular?

cougarmeister

7/22/18 3:42pm

BYU rightly uses multiple metrics to find the best students. They then wrongly reject applicants who have high

HarlemCoug

7/22/18 3:51pm

See my comments above

rmreitz

7/20/18 3:41pm

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