How would you explain the flexibility for RM’s who forgot to submit their call

Jul 21, 2021
5:36:48pm

NOCAL_YFAN All-American

for deferral? Does that not suggest that perceived worthiness is influencing the deferral process and policy exceptions?

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Can't believe what BYU admissions has become - so frustrated rn, any ideas?

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:00pm

That sucks. He doesn't have any other Math, Science or English teachers he could get an recommendation from?

supertux

7/21/21 1:05pm

We are trying that, but they need to remember him from over a year ago now.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:29pm

The front page of BYU's handbook must say NO EXCEPTIONS EVER

Mostlyaccurate

7/21/21 1:08pm

BYU and deferment is a mess. They do not handle it well.

TheWanderer

7/21/21 1:09pm

BYU as a whole is the most inflexible institution I’ve ever interacted with

Joysey

7/21/21 1:09pm

I see you have never interacted with Federal bureaucracy before.

thecthdox

7/21/21 1:26pm

Here's a hope...Maybe BYU is the Telestial version of the Church's University...

Pangare

7/21/21 2:54pm

Why would you even want to go to a school like that? Go somewhere better and

Backcountry

7/21/21 1:10pm

Agreed. Don't go there.

johnnycarson

7/21/21 1:15pm

CB PSA: Please stop sending your kids to BYU. Send them elsewhere.

TheWanderer

7/21/21 1:23pm

That really sucks. BYU is so programmatic about these types of things

BlackBart

7/21/21 1:11pm

Maybe someone can confirm that BYU night classes / BYU SLC is a good option here

BlackBart

7/21/21 2:27pm

They presented that option to me, so yes. Thanks.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:47pm

Have him enroll at UVU and then if he feels the need after his mission he can transfer to the Y or he could get lucky

IceBlueCoug

7/21/21 1:11pm

This is a good option. My kids have enjoyed UVU

NYC and Japan

7/21/21 1:31pm

That’s so frustrating. I feel your pain, my son was not accepted out of HS so

kotacoug

7/21/21 1:11pm

I agree with your last paragraph. Do not defer until you have mission call in

rcbyufan

7/21/21 1:13pm

BYU's web page on mission deferment literally says as much.

Mississippi

7/21/21 2:15pm

Sounds like kind of a nightmare for your son and for you.

lightmann

7/21/21 1:15pm

Good advice. I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:17pm

That really sucks. Of all the schools how does BYU not have sympathy regarding

Baron

7/21/21 1:19pm

From BYU's perspective though, let's say they accommodate him, then he has

rcbyufan

7/21/21 1:34pm

Good to know the Lords university still needs help being Christlike.

Adwight

7/21/21 1:20pm

I love BYU, but you are not wrong here. It's a problem. Not sure how

Mitty

7/21/21 2:32pm

BYU admin is one of the most un-Christlike uncharitable bunch I have ever come

Frank Drebin

7/21/21 1:21pm

Unchristlike?

BlackHawkCoug

7/21/21 1:35pm

Nothing you said excuses BYUs horrendous behavior and attitude toward humans.

Adwight

7/21/21 1:42pm

They do. The problem isn't with BYU. The problem is with the unreasonable

BlackHawkCoug

7/21/21 1:52pm

BTW, the donor appeal was facetious. I disagree that the school has to be so

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 2:03pm

That's fair. For the record, I very much hope your son receives his call soon.

BlackHawkCoug

7/21/21 2:08pm

I can draw my conclusions by how I was treated - like a dog

Frank Drebin

7/21/21 4:40pm

From what you are describing maybe we just need to increase admissions

Pangare

7/22/21 10:14am

So you went like a year without following the instructions BYU gave you and now just expect them to accommodate

YIsForBrigham

7/21/21 1:28pm

^^^ works in BYU admissions ^^^

Dread Pirate Westley

7/21/21 1:30pm

To which instructions do you refer? Providing a mission call to defer? How do

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:31pm

Get it before everyone else in the class is enrolling or enroll and wait for your mission call like everyone else

YIsForBrigham

7/21/21 1:32pm

The priority is a mission, something I thought BYU shared, so we didn't enroll

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:40pm

When it was clear the mission call wasn't coming before the school year, the proper course of action was obvious. You

YIsForBrigham

7/21/21 2:27pm

I'm not blaming BYU for my son's delay in mission plans or lack of enrollment

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:29pm

When it was clear a mission call wouldn’t come before Fall 2020, call BYU Admissions and let them know

KingDave

7/21/21 1:43pm

If they would have made an exception then, why didn't they do just that

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 1:51pm

I agree with KingDave that you should have addressed the situation immediately

kimdaddy35

7/21/21 2:02pm

Irresponsible is a bit harsh I would say. Yes, hindsight, I wish we would have

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:36pm

I'm not sure if there are accreditation issues, but no schools allow deferment

rcbyufan

7/21/21 3:49pm

Not true. I had a daughter attend BYUH and she deferred without ever providing

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:05pm

What did she do when she deferred?

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:10pm

Sent an email saying "I am deferring for my mission; I will be back X semester"

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:11pm

One difference is that she had already attended school, as opposed to deferring

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:12pm

But she actually went on a mission?

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:32pm

Yes, and her spot was there for her when she returned.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:48pm

Again, she deferred for a valid reason. If your son had forgotten to send info

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:56pm

So forgetting to do what you're told is ok, but taking longer to qualify for a

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 5:46pm

I guess you can call it whatever you want, but I don't understand why it wasn't

kimdaddy35

7/21/21 4:24pm

My son did not ignore their request, he responded that he would defer, they then

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:41pm

Again it isn't worth arguing over it with you, but if it were me running BYU

kimdaddy35

7/21/21 4:51pm

Doesn’t sound like a BYU problem to me.

LaVellIfIKnow

7/21/21 1:40pm

My son forgot to complete his mission deferment before leaving on his mission 2y ago

SaturdaySpecialDay

7/21/21 2:03pm

I'm not aware of any university that allows deferment without showing some

rcbyufan

7/21/21 2:26pm

BYUH just asks you to tell them when you'll be back. I don't know about BYUI.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 4:06pm

I think they make exceptions for RM's, but not for potential missionaries, which

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:54pm

i think the ambiguity about his inability to serve a mission is working against

run26

7/21/21 2:25pm

Wow, I hadn't even considered that possibility. Yikes.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:41pm

And here’s my problem with them having that attitude is that

Adwight

7/21/21 3:58pm

LOL that people are taking this comment as serious. Well done.

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:01pm

It IS serious

run26

7/21/21 4:02pm

Thank you. I can't stop laughing now.

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:05pm

You have very little understanding of BYU Admissions if you think

run26

7/21/21 4:45pm

I have no doubt worthiness is part of the criteria. But we are talking about

rcbyufan

7/21/21 4:53pm

How would you explain the flexibility for RM’s who forgot to submit their call

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 5:36pm

No, because they were in a structured "program" during the deferment. You can

rcbyufan

7/21/21 5:43pm

One is verifying something that you told them would happen and didn't happen and

kimdaddy35

7/21/21 5:44pm

What a bunch of clowns. That is seriously low class.

Mitty

7/21/21 2:30pm

That's how Christ would have handled it, right?

Ragnar Danneskjold

7/21/21 3:32pm

Why isn’t your son making these calls?

molodyets

7/21/21 3:38pm

Really? You're going to go there? He is making the calls with me.

NOCAL_YFAN

7/21/21 3:44pm

Some on CB think that being completely absent from a kids life is good parenting

TheWanderer

7/21/21 3:47pm

Yes that’s exactly what I implied

molodyets

7/21/21 5:06pm

I was just going off of what you said.

molodyets

7/21/21 5:05pm

Become a UofU fan

salamishiitake

7/22/21 10:07pm

Seriously man? I'm not even a BYU fan and this is a horrible take.

Dread Pirate Westley

7/22/21 10:14pm

well yeah... it was a joke so...

salamishiitake

7/22/21 10:37pm

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