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No, they are idiots because of how they chose to behave. But they certainly
are free to be idiots.
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"I was one semester away from graduation, left the church, & was expelled"
snowbird
10/7/15 10:10am
The trays do come back full at the Belmont.
RealComfortableJeans
10/7/15 10:14am
lol, used to be Branbury Park in the late 80's early 90's.
boogers
10/7/15 10:19am
That's it! The Branbury. One of the greatest news articles I've ever read.
RealComfortableJeans
10/7/15 10:23am
I tend to agree
Northwest Cougar
10/7/15 10:15am
Honestly, if it's your last semester, you won't need another ecclesiastical
dilbert
10/7/15 10:21am
We make choices. They have consequences. When has that ever changed?
HangookCoug
10/7/15 10:39am
Still have to go to church because your Bishop can pull your ecclesiastical at
sandtrapcougar
10/7/15 10:54am
I have never met a person first hand that this has happened to.
andrewth
10/7/15 11:09am
How many people have you met that just stopped going to church while at BYU?
sandtrapcougar
10/7/15 1:09pm
Would they even be guaranteed to notice?
Northwest Cougar
10/7/15 1:42pm
Well part of the Honor Code is that you attend your BYU ward regularly.
sandtrapcougar
10/7/15 1:49pm
At BYU wards people are moving in and out so often it's impossible to keep track
andrewth
10/7/15 4:17pm
BYU wards have very little turnover during the semester. So it is actually easy
sandtrapcougar
10/7/15 4:20pm
I'm curious how you track attendance in your YSA ward
dilbert
10/7/15 4:40pm
I have a feeling the Demographic of your YSA Ward is very different than mine.
andrewth
10/7/15 4:57pm
Start with the rolls in each class. Then each month we compile list of
sandtrapcougar
10/7/15 9:58pm
Ah, ok. I was thinking more about sacrament meeting, but that makes sense.
dilbert
10/7/15 10:11pm
I had 4 close friends going into BYU. 3 of the 4 Flat out stopped going.
andrewth
10/7/15 4:13pm
Agreed
HangookCoug
10/7/15 10:17am
Ummm. Non-LDS people go to BYU all the time. Also, ND is full of non-catholics
srey
10/7/15 10:40am
This is utter nonsense.
Singcat
10/7/15 11:18am
People are risk adverse by nature; saving your butt far outweighs "being
kunarcougar
10/7/15 10:21am
I'm torn on this issue . . .
Gavin
10/7/15 10:25am
Because they were admitted based on academic and religious
CMM Cougar
10/7/15 11:37am
THIS ^^^^^^
Monomachos
10/7/15 12:47pm
i guess what you are saying is you don't want anyone at BYU who struggles with
run26
10/7/15 1:10pm
See, that's the way the policy is perceived
Gavin
10/7/15 2:19pm
Did you read what the BYU spokesperson actually said? There is a difference
Monomachos
10/7/15 2:45pm
even if you've "made up your mind" you might come back
run26
10/7/15 4:06pm
IMO, it doesn't really matter what the intent of the person is.
blackandblue
10/7/15 10:31am
Here's my thing. Every year, I am charged with finding 70-75 HS students whose
Six Foot Seven
10/7/15 10:38am
Boom.
Iman23
10/7/15 10:39am
Pretty sure they aren't asking to keep the subsidized tuition. Pay the non LDS
Mr. Scoobs
10/7/15 10:54am
Non LDS students get huge subsidies as well.
boogers
10/7/15 10:58am
The cost to the church is still very much there. They continue to fund every
Six Foot Seven
10/7/15 11:00am
So why the inconsistent treatment between them and other non-LDS kids?
swingcat
10/7/15 11:06am
I understand what yo are saying, but it isn't the same. By choosing to
boogers
10/7/15 11:23am
But isn't ever non-member kind of "rejecting" it too?
jayriggity
10/7/15 11:28am
I think you get the point. Pro-actively disassociating from the Church
boogers
10/7/15 11:49am
Yep. The difference had to do with making a covenant and then breaking it
dilbert
10/7/15 12:57pm
There isn't an inconsistency.
Six Foot Seven
10/7/15 11:29am
??? That's totally inconsistent.
jayriggity
10/7/15 11:37am
No, I'm sorry, but you are wrong.
Six Foot Seven
10/7/15 11:38am
Hmm. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about that. Seems quite private to
jayriggity
10/7/15 11:54am
...and? Who cares how many people know about it? You can still do it in a
Byron McNertney
10/7/15 11:56am
And I don't disagree with any of that. This discussion was about what gives BYU
Six Foot Seven
10/7/15 12:14pm
BYU has the "right" to whatever it wants (IMO). But as an institution of integri
jayriggity
10/7/15 12:36pm
Okay, let me try again.
Six Foot Seven
10/7/15 12:52pm
Thats an interesting way to look at it. And this is an honest question: does the
jayriggity
10/7/15 1:03pm
I doubt there would be repercussions for a nonmember in your example because,
Six Foot Seven
10/7/15 1:14pm
I would imagine the same rules would apply. Let me explain:
lawilson
10/7/15 1:19pm
so an LDS student who went inactive could get endorsed by another religion's
run26
10/7/15 1:25pm
No... because that person is still a member of the church.
lawilson
10/7/15 1:35pm
According to the organization making a fuss about this, BYU really doesn't look
jayriggity
10/7/15 2:09pm
However I will propose an interesting thought:
lawilson
10/7/15 1:47pm
Who do I get my ecclesiastical endorsement from if I have removed my name
lawilson
10/7/15 11:20am
There are plenty of non-LDS that still get endorsments from chaplains. Don't
Mr. Scoobs
10/7/15 11:22am
You misunderstand.... If they can get an ecclesiastical endorsement
lawilson
10/7/15 11:42am
Right. They would still need to live the honor code and would get endorsed by a
Mr. Scoobs
10/7/15 11:48am
One of my brother's good friends actually WAS one semester away from graduating
LeftOfNormal
10/7/15 10:39am
Why are they idiots? Because they don't agree with Mormon doctrine? You do
Singcat
10/7/15 11:21am
No, they are idiots because of how they chose to behave. But they certainly
boogers
10/7/15 11:25am
But that behavior is only idiotic to you because you don't agree with it or what
Singcat
10/7/15 11:30am
I have plenty of personal issues that I struggle with that are contrary to what
boogers
10/7/15 11:38am
I'm pretty confident this whole incident was planned in advance to embarrass BYU
BeardedSpock
10/7/15 1:03pm
What it really boils down to is admission to BYU is a contract: for the
Monomachos
10/7/15 11:27pm
I actually only knew one person who started LDS at BYU, stopped going to church,
Ygirl
10/8/15 9:39am
It is possible to transfer credits and finish a degree elsewhere. Was
Monomachos
10/8/15 9:57am
I'm not sure. BYU looks very good on a resume though.
Ygirl
10/8/15 12:11pm
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