You totally had me, until you brought up dirty play.

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Odysseus

10/23/18 8:23am

Only if members of either group don’t repent.

Blue Print

10/23/18 8:23am

I love apostate BYU fans. I know many, they are great.

chilango

10/23/18 8:23am

I’ll have a beer with you

Mathew

10/23/18 11:14am

My son will have a beer with you. and that's ok with me.

Y-Zag

10/23/18 11:18am

Ditto. They are the salt of the Earth... albeit a bit saltier salt

Iki_Balam

10/23/18 11:24am

Delete.

coug10278

10/23/18 8:24am

I’m pretty confident this board loves apostate BYU fans more than active BYU fan. First you’re still a BYU fan, second

SouthernBlueBlood

10/23/18 8:24am

This is largely true. When I went inactive I wasn't sure if/when I'd share it

JarJarBeeps

10/23/18 4:29pm

RE: I’m pretty confident this board loves apostate BYU fans more than active BYU

SC-Zoobie

10/24/18 8:45am

I honestly have no idea what this post is asking.

sidsie716

10/23/18 8:26am

Yeah, me neither. It's odd.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/23/18 10:13am

Do Y fans dislike non-believing Y fans just as much as non-believing uu fans?

Benfica1

10/23/18 11:44am

It's actually a fine question. For those who are believing members, you may not

Blue streak

10/24/18 7:45am

Well, the answer to the question is that BYU fans like fans that don't hate BYU

Benfica1

10/24/18 9:50am

Relax no matter how bad you want to be a victim you’re not on the despise list.

Y2k

10/23/18 8:26am

Active LDS Utah Fan.. I think the question is how come an active LDS irrespectiv

Saxa

10/23/18 8:26am

Is that accurate?

Cougstreak

10/23/18 9:10am

If I could give you a THOUSAND "Thumbs Up", I would. Active LDS members...

BleedCougarBlue2

10/23/18 10:16am

RE: Active LDS Utah Fan.. I think the question is how come an active LDS

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 10:45am

You totally had me, until you brought up dirty play.

Plato

10/23/18 10:48am

He's just mad that he didn't get into BYU

stoils

10/23/18 10:52am

Because dirty play is okay?

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 4:40pm

Dirty play is not OK. But it is a favorite target of the "ALUF".

Eddie

10/24/18 8:55am

I agree with you on everything except the prophet seer revelatory part

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:21pm

What 'policing' are you talking about?

Benfica1

10/25/18 8:25am

To be completely open and honest - I don't love parts of the honor code either.

Eddie

10/25/18 2:50pm

RE: You totally had me, until you brought up dirty play.

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 6:42pm

You went inactive because a football player

stoils

10/23/18 7:50pm

Emery did that after the flopping baby punched him.

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:24pm

RE: You went inactive because a football player

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:35pm

He had me until "hypocrisy". Isn't his whole post judgmental and hypocritical?

Benfica1

10/24/18 10:19am

RE: He had me until "hypocrisy". Isn't his whole post judgmental and

Cougstreak

10/24/18 11:33am

Wait a minute. Is this that Bill at Kublai Khan guy, or whatever he was called,

chilango

10/23/18 11:00am

So, telling the truth is viewed as obnoxious behavior by CB. One more thing to

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 4:42pm

How would you know if half of what he said was true idiot?

BYU '80

10/23/18 5:59pm

How would you know if it wasn't the truth?

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 7:17pm

Around and around we go. You’re the one claiming

BYU '80

10/23/18 9:06pm

RE: Around and around we go. You’re the one claiming

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:37pm

You just repeated the tried and true (probably not) stories that are spread about BYU. I have friends and family who

Real G Man

10/23/18 11:02pm

Kinda like people pouring beer on others when beer sales are prohibited at RES

Bluegoogles

10/24/18 5:21pm

Wow...huge eye roll *face-palm*

cambo

10/23/18 11:08am

Out of all those points, only your last makes sense.

demon_llama

10/23/18 12:37pm

Except he didn't follow it.

ochobeeguy

10/23/18 2:22pm

Honest Question from an Inactive BYU Fan

AlexKnight

10/23/18 1:11pm

RE: Honest Question from an Inactive BYU Fan

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 6:41pm

RE: Honest Question from an Inactive BYU Fan

AlexKnight

10/23/18 7:03pm

RE: Honest Question from an Inactive BYU Fan

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:41pm

Of course they know big picture.

Cougstreak

10/24/18 6:12am

what the weird? Are you serious? There is no way they are involved in every

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:27pm

4) the rules can be changed when the mission is understood.

Y2k

10/24/18 11:16pm

You mad brother?

SC-Zoobie

10/23/18 2:22pm

You certainly have the aluf talking points down

BYU '80

10/23/18 5:55pm

Utah a school who is one of the top schools for personal fouls

BYU '80

10/23/18 5:58pm

RE: Utah a school who is one of the top schools for personal fouls

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 6:36pm

The dirty plays came under bronco's watch. Kalani will not allow it and doesn't

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 7:22pm

Neither did Bronco. Those players did not go unpunished.

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:31pm

Hate to rain on your parade... but to those living outside of the Utah bubble,

BoiseBlueCoug

10/24/18 7:47am

So true....

Cougstreak

10/24/18 10:05am

RE: Hate to rain on your parade... but to those living outside of the Utah

chinngiskhaan

10/24/18 11:52am

^Says the guy who's probably never lived outside of Utah.

Ned Schneebly

10/24/18 12:30pm

RE: ^Says the guy who's probably never lived outside of Utah.

chinngiskhaan

10/24/18 4:24pm

Not sure the percentage of Mormons in Utah has changed much since the '80s. But

chilango

10/24/18 12:33pm

if we dissolve BYU sports, everyone goes to the U, makes it mostly Mormon...

Iki_Balam

10/24/18 12:45pm

Hate to say it but you are wrong.

Cougstreak

10/24/18 1:21pm

all those things you mentioned have happened at sooooo many other schools

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:23pm

So it's ok for Kyle to let players off easy because he's not a church employee?

RoyalCoug99

10/23/18 7:16pm

Right, because that has never happened at byu. Maybe you should review before

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 7:23pm

I'm not saying it doesn't happen at BYU, I'm saying it's a double standard to

RoyalCoug99

10/23/18 8:12pm

Agreed, I can mention several far more egregious thinks in yewt-ville.

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:33pm

RE: Agreed, I can mention several far more egregious thinks in yewt-ville.

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:44pm

You made a good point

stoils

10/25/18 2:59pm

RE: I'm not saying it doesn't happen at BYU, I'm saying it's a double standard

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:34pm

I do understand. But what a school does does not affect your eternal salvation

RoyalCoug99

10/23/18 10:18pm

RE: I do understand. But what a school does does not affect your eternal

chinngiskhaan

10/24/18 4:14pm

But you see why a sensible person would roll their eyes at your post, right?

BYU'01

10/23/18 8:44pm

I still don't understand why people who are active members of the LDS Church

Lance71

10/23/18 8:44pm

Do you also take great pride in cheering on the team whose players and fans

tony

10/23/18 8:47pm

Meh, made up or exaggerated stuff to justify blind hatred.

Benfica1

10/23/18 11:28pm

Great email!!

footballjunkie

10/24/18 12:12am

Make the jump already. Ug, if you can't believe hear-say, what can you believe?

Benfica1

10/24/18 10:02am

Honest question...

SWP

10/24/18 8:13am

The honor code part isn't true...plenty of kids don't get kicked out who arent

conrad44

10/24/18 10:48am

Complete opposite of my experience. I have done some messed up things and the

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:15pm

My wife's parents and siblings are BYU haters.

Belboz

10/23/18 12:47pm

Good analogy

Pobs

10/23/18 12:57pm

RE: My wife's parents and siblings are BYU haters.

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 6:45pm

we can agree on that

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:31pm

My Father-In-Law was a BYU hater.

Old Main

10/23/18 7:57pm

What are you talking about?

JuicyJam

10/23/18 8:31am

I object to the way many on this board refer to active LDS Ute fans.

Plato

10/23/18 8:53am

Examples?

JuicyJam

10/23/18 9:13am

I don't know you or your full story, but...

Ned Schneebly

10/23/18 9:20am

Totally wrong.

Plato

10/23/18 9:48am

Any opposing fan is less righteous than BYU fans. Duh.

BlueNtheFace

10/23/18 9:58am

Nothing against the Church, yet you trivialize your experience with a patriarch.

BlackBart

10/23/18 10:15am

The main issue is with those who tolerate or associate with those Utes who

Iki_Balam

10/23/18 11:44am

That last paragraph is nonsense. Most people

Plato

10/23/18 12:06pm

There has to be cognitive dissonance, however, for an ALUF who goes to a footbal

demon_llama

10/23/18 12:40pm

I think so. No need to be easily offended. Even if offense is intended.

Plato

10/23/18 1:28pm

Here’s the thing. I never have to ignore the religious insults from BYU fans

demon_llama

10/23/18 1:30pm

You will hear comments everywhere but BYU.

Cougstreak

10/23/18 1:49pm

Nice assumption. Wrong tho. I've lived all over the world since I left Provo

demon_llama

10/23/18 3:54pm

So you assume they agree with it? Wow.

Cougstreak

10/23/18 4:54pm

Surrounded by those not of their beliefs =/= Surround by haters of their beliefs

Iki_Balam

10/23/18 12:58pm

For everyone of them....

Cougstreak

10/23/18 1:11pm

Who the heck cares?

SL12

10/23/18 1:15pm

Amen.

Cougstreak

10/23/18 1:47pm

Ever been to a game at Rice Eccles?

BYU '80

10/23/18 6:04pm

I'm a fan of sports teams and individuals who represent the USA in competition

Belboz

10/23/18 12:50pm

Seriously? Your take is that Ute fans all hate Jesus. SMH

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 4:49pm

Reading comprehension fail. Not surprising

BYU '80

10/23/18 6:04pm

They reconcile by searching far and wide to anything

BYU '80

10/23/18 6:03pm

I don't get the comment about him having an "axe to grind" with the Church. I

chilango

10/23/18 11:28am

See Blackbart’s comment above.

Ned Schneebly

10/23/18 11:34am

Yes, I had read that comment already. I don't see how it demonstrates an ax to

chilango

10/23/18 2:26pm

Just my interpretation based on the fact that he casually dropped it in there.

Ned Schneebly

10/23/18 3:45pm

As long as we’re making believe that we’re psychoanalysts, my take is that the

chilango

10/23/18 6:19pm

RE: As long as we’re making believe that we’re psychoanalysts, my

Ned Schneebly

10/23/18 7:05pm

Here you go

chilango

10/23/18 8:12pm

You’re making stuff up - we love non member and inactive BYU fans

Pobs

10/23/18 12:14pm

I'm sorry my post was so vague that you completely missed the point

Plato

10/23/18 12:16pm

First thing: your patriarch did not "say" you would..God did and the patriarch was the one who told you what God said.

Real G Man

10/23/18 12:27pm

Take it to the religious thread. I never said that

Plato

10/23/18 1:30pm

I agree you never said that he was wrong. My point was he never said it--God did..then I just expanded my thought

Real G Man

10/23/18 2:17pm

I don’t know what those acronyms mean so....

troutmaster13

10/23/18 8:32am

Is your name Kate Kelly? If not, then no. I don’t hate you.

fiberpost

10/23/18 8:33am

Y'all are my favey. Just like the beer drinking ones. We have plenty of reg fans

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

10/23/18 8:38am

Any type of byu fan is >>>>>> than any kind of Ute fan.

Zach Morris

10/23/18 8:42am

Nope. Regardless of Church membership/activity

TheLoneCougar

10/23/18 8:52am

Apostate from the church or from BYU? No forgiveness for apostatizing from BYU.

CharlottesvilleCoug

10/23/18 9:09am

None needed.

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 5:00pm

No one was trying to address you in any way

BYU '80

10/23/18 6:05pm

You seem confused. Or a Yewt fan trying to stir the pot.

Real Men Wear Blue

10/23/18 9:17am

I don't despise either one

Gorgias

10/23/18 9:18am

Why do ALYFs have a persecution complex?

Richbyu

10/23/18 9:19am

Do they? I do think so. I haven't said

Plato

10/23/18 9:50am

Seems like you are trying to attach the actions of a few people to a whole group

Richbyu

10/23/18 10:00am

I chastise only the guilty. If your heart is full of love for your

Plato

10/23/18 10:05am

Are you projecting?

Richbyu

10/23/18 10:10am

Are you using that word correctly? I don't know what you mean.

Plato

10/23/18 10:13am

And it seems that nobody has any idea what your original post meant.

sidsie716

10/23/18 10:26am

I think I have. If not, too late now.

Plato

10/23/18 10:27am

Great point. It seems to always crop up whenever anyone disagrees with their

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 5:02pm

That thread was quite obnoxious to me too.

conetah

10/23/18 9:56am

Congrats on making the front page with one of the most pointless threads I've

BoiseBlueCoug

10/23/18 10:47am

Amén!

Plato

10/23/18 10:49am

I have contempt for all yewt fans equally

stoils

10/23/18 10:54am

I guess what I'm trying to understand based on reading all your posts on this

byukarl

10/23/18 10:59am

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byu56

10/23/18 1:24pm

Sounds like you're a rivalrist. Das is good

RealSimsShadY

10/23/18 1:26pm

I have never heard of anyone ever saying anything bad about "apostate" BYU fans

Gil Buckman

10/23/18 11:07am

Moreover, the "criticism" of ALUFs has much less to do with them

Gil Buckman

10/23/18 12:03pm

And there willingness to put up with said antics

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:44pm

No way! The drunken, smoking BYU fan is always my best friend and brother!

Iki_Balam

10/23/18 11:23am

Plato, you need to "Get ALYF", all Y fans are valued here

VballDad

10/23/18 12:21pm

ALYF Checking in. Only problem is when there's political/religious discussions.

CougHomer

10/23/18 12:29pm

ALUF is a different thing than just a mormon Utah fan.

riboflavin

10/23/18 12:34pm

Active LDS Yankees Fan?

demon_llama

10/23/18 12:35pm

flip side-I can't stand people who say they're fans just because they're members

RealSimsShadY

10/23/18 1:10pm

Leave it at sports. You're making a connection that is irrelevant when it comes

RealSimsShadY

10/23/18 1:13pm

Apostate BYU fan here. I hate everything yewts do. Everything. Unconditional

byu56

10/23/18 1:25pm

I agree.. plus I hate the color Red

byukarl

10/23/18 1:34pm

Pump the brakes. I'm a half-breed ginger..but I'm a man. It's common

JarJarBeeps

10/23/18 5:38pm

I feel the same. I had a few Utah fans think I'd somehow "join" them and reject

JarJarBeeps

10/23/18 5:36pm

I think you care more about your standing with the church than any of us do.

IrishCooga

10/23/18 2:15pm

Meh, aluf is just a way to poke fun at Utah. I’m not sure there is any real hate

BlueTooth

10/23/18 3:48pm

Consider me in the minority.

JarJarBeeps

10/23/18 5:39pm

Aggie here speaking...I am 100% sure nobody here despises you.

ditch

10/23/18 3:56pm

I thought ALUF was an acronym for an alumni of UU

D.T. Survivor

10/23/18 4:39pm

Is apostate Y fan the same as anti Mormon Y fan?

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/23/18 5:43pm

No

Y2k

10/23/18 6:16pm

Then I agree that BYU fans absolutely love inactive BYU

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/23/18 8:48pm

The problem is that some fans are extremely sensitive and trigger-happy in

chilango

10/23/18 8:59pm

It is possible to be disaffected or disinterested without being hostile.

Archaea

10/24/18 10:14am

Eye of beholder. Some go to the “anti!” card pretty quick. Re who qualifies

MatthiasG

10/23/18 8:32pm

Exactly why I wanted to ask.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/24/18 12:47pm

You can fall out of activity for a number of reasons;

Archaea

10/24/18 12:52pm

Exactly, that’s why I asked.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/24/18 5:43pm

Agreed. The term as used colloquially is too broad.

Archaea

10/25/18 2:10pm

You don't know how? So you do it without evening know, huh.

YSMACK

10/23/18 9:05pm

Being obnoxious is a valued trait on CB.

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:09pm

Hyper-sensitive about perceptions by others would be the apt descriptor

Archaea

10/24/18 11:45am

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Abe Froman

10/23/18 9:36pm

RE: ALYF. Apostate LDS BYU Fan. Do you guys despise us as much as you despise

Agnostic-alumni

10/24/18 12:35am

Apparently you can quit the Church but can't quit the persecution complex.

CougarMandias

10/24/18 7:22am

This brings up a good point. What’s the most replied to thread ever?

Y2k

10/24/18 12:47pm

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