4) the rules can be changed when the mission is understood.

Oct 24, 2018
11:16:05pm

Y2k All-American

I don’t know that this is the case but I see it as plausible 4th option. The rules can be changed if you’re doing as you’re instructed. If that means breaking other commandments, and you feel like the spirit told you too, then you have a free pass.

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ALYF. Apostate LDS BYU Fan. Do you guys despise us as much as you despise

Plato

10/23/18 8:20am

Odysseus

10/23/18 8:23am

Only if members of either group don’t repent.

Blue Print

10/23/18 8:23am

I love apostate BYU fans. I know many, they are great.

chilango

10/23/18 8:23am

I’ll have a beer with you

Mathew

10/23/18 11:14am

My son will have a beer with you. and that's ok with me.

Y-Zag

10/23/18 11:18am

Ditto. They are the salt of the Earth... albeit a bit saltier salt

Iki_Balam

10/23/18 11:24am

Delete.

coug10278

10/23/18 8:24am

I’m pretty confident this board loves apostate BYU fans more than active BYU fan. First you’re still a BYU fan, second

SouthernBlueBlood

10/23/18 8:24am

This is largely true. When I went inactive I wasn't sure if/when I'd share it

JarJarBeeps

10/23/18 4:29pm

RE: I’m pretty confident this board loves apostate BYU fans more than active BYU

SC-Zoobie

10/24/18 8:45am

I honestly have no idea what this post is asking.

sidsie716

10/23/18 8:26am

Yeah, me neither. It's odd.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/23/18 10:13am

Do Y fans dislike non-believing Y fans just as much as non-believing uu fans?

Benfica1

10/23/18 11:44am

It's actually a fine question. For those who are believing members, you may not

Blue streak

10/24/18 7:45am

Well, the answer to the question is that BYU fans like fans that don't hate BYU

Benfica1

10/24/18 9:50am

Relax no matter how bad you want to be a victim you’re not on the despise list.

Y2k

10/23/18 8:26am

Active LDS Utah Fan.. I think the question is how come an active LDS irrespectiv

Saxa

10/23/18 8:26am

Is that accurate?

Cougstreak

10/23/18 9:10am

If I could give you a THOUSAND "Thumbs Up", I would. Active LDS members...

BleedCougarBlue2

10/23/18 10:16am

RE: Active LDS Utah Fan.. I think the question is how come an active LDS

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 10:45am

You totally had me, until you brought up dirty play.

Plato

10/23/18 10:48am

He's just mad that he didn't get into BYU

stoils

10/23/18 10:52am

Because dirty play is okay?

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 4:40pm

Dirty play is not OK. But it is a favorite target of the "ALUF".

Eddie

10/24/18 8:55am

I agree with you on everything except the prophet seer revelatory part

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:21pm

What 'policing' are you talking about?

Benfica1

10/25/18 8:25am

To be completely open and honest - I don't love parts of the honor code either.

Eddie

10/25/18 2:50pm

RE: You totally had me, until you brought up dirty play.

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 6:42pm

You went inactive because a football player

stoils

10/23/18 7:50pm

Emery did that after the flopping baby punched him.

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:24pm

RE: You went inactive because a football player

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:35pm

He had me until "hypocrisy". Isn't his whole post judgmental and hypocritical?

Benfica1

10/24/18 10:19am

RE: He had me until "hypocrisy". Isn't his whole post judgmental and

Cougstreak

10/24/18 11:33am

Wait a minute. Is this that Bill at Kublai Khan guy, or whatever he was called,

chilango

10/23/18 11:00am

So, telling the truth is viewed as obnoxious behavior by CB. One more thing to

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 4:42pm

How would you know if half of what he said was true idiot?

BYU '80

10/23/18 5:59pm

How would you know if it wasn't the truth?

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 7:17pm

Around and around we go. You’re the one claiming

BYU '80

10/23/18 9:06pm

RE: Around and around we go. You’re the one claiming

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:37pm

You just repeated the tried and true (probably not) stories that are spread about BYU. I have friends and family who

Real G Man

10/23/18 11:02pm

Kinda like people pouring beer on others when beer sales are prohibited at RES

Bluegoogles

10/24/18 5:21pm

Wow...huge eye roll *face-palm*

cambo

10/23/18 11:08am

Out of all those points, only your last makes sense.

demon_llama

10/23/18 12:37pm

Except he didn't follow it.

ochobeeguy

10/23/18 2:22pm

Honest Question from an Inactive BYU Fan

AlexKnight

10/23/18 1:11pm

RE: Honest Question from an Inactive BYU Fan

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 6:41pm

RE: Honest Question from an Inactive BYU Fan

AlexKnight

10/23/18 7:03pm

RE: Honest Question from an Inactive BYU Fan

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:41pm

Of course they know big picture.

Cougstreak

10/24/18 6:12am

what the weird? Are you serious? There is no way they are involved in every

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:27pm

4) the rules can be changed when the mission is understood.

Y2k

10/24/18 11:16pm

You mad brother?

SC-Zoobie

10/23/18 2:22pm

You certainly have the aluf talking points down

BYU '80

10/23/18 5:55pm

Utah a school who is one of the top schools for personal fouls

BYU '80

10/23/18 5:58pm

RE: Utah a school who is one of the top schools for personal fouls

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 6:36pm

The dirty plays came under bronco's watch. Kalani will not allow it and doesn't

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 7:22pm

Neither did Bronco. Those players did not go unpunished.

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:31pm

Hate to rain on your parade... but to those living outside of the Utah bubble,

BoiseBlueCoug

10/24/18 7:47am

So true....

Cougstreak

10/24/18 10:05am

RE: Hate to rain on your parade... but to those living outside of the Utah

chinngiskhaan

10/24/18 11:52am

^Says the guy who's probably never lived outside of Utah.

Ned Schneebly

10/24/18 12:30pm

RE: ^Says the guy who's probably never lived outside of Utah.

chinngiskhaan

10/24/18 4:24pm

Not sure the percentage of Mormons in Utah has changed much since the '80s. But

chilango

10/24/18 12:33pm

if we dissolve BYU sports, everyone goes to the U, makes it mostly Mormon...

Iki_Balam

10/24/18 12:45pm

Hate to say it but you are wrong.

Cougstreak

10/24/18 1:21pm

all those things you mentioned have happened at sooooo many other schools

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:23pm

So it's ok for Kyle to let players off easy because he's not a church employee?

RoyalCoug99

10/23/18 7:16pm

Right, because that has never happened at byu. Maybe you should review before

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 7:23pm

I'm not saying it doesn't happen at BYU, I'm saying it's a double standard to

RoyalCoug99

10/23/18 8:12pm

Agreed, I can mention several far more egregious thinks in yewt-ville.

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:33pm

RE: Agreed, I can mention several far more egregious thinks in yewt-ville.

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:44pm

You made a good point

stoils

10/25/18 2:59pm

RE: I'm not saying it doesn't happen at BYU, I'm saying it's a double standard

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 9:34pm

I do understand. But what a school does does not affect your eternal salvation

RoyalCoug99

10/23/18 10:18pm

RE: I do understand. But what a school does does not affect your eternal

chinngiskhaan

10/24/18 4:14pm

But you see why a sensible person would roll their eyes at your post, right?

BYU'01

10/23/18 8:44pm

I still don't understand why people who are active members of the LDS Church

Lance71

10/23/18 8:44pm

Do you also take great pride in cheering on the team whose players and fans

tony

10/23/18 8:47pm

Meh, made up or exaggerated stuff to justify blind hatred.

Benfica1

10/23/18 11:28pm

Great email!!

footballjunkie

10/24/18 12:12am

Make the jump already. Ug, if you can't believe hear-say, what can you believe?

Benfica1

10/24/18 10:02am

Honest question...

SWP

10/24/18 8:13am

The honor code part isn't true...plenty of kids don't get kicked out who arent

conrad44

10/24/18 10:48am

Complete opposite of my experience. I have done some messed up things and the

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:15pm

My wife's parents and siblings are BYU haters.

Belboz

10/23/18 12:47pm

Good analogy

Pobs

10/23/18 12:57pm

RE: My wife's parents and siblings are BYU haters.

chinngiskhaan

10/23/18 6:45pm

we can agree on that

ColonelMustard

10/24/18 10:31pm

My Father-In-Law was a BYU hater.

Old Main

10/23/18 7:57pm

What are you talking about?

JuicyJam

10/23/18 8:31am

I object to the way many on this board refer to active LDS Ute fans.

Plato

10/23/18 8:53am

Examples?

JuicyJam

10/23/18 9:13am

I don't know you or your full story, but...

Ned Schneebly

10/23/18 9:20am

Totally wrong.

Plato

10/23/18 9:48am

Any opposing fan is less righteous than BYU fans. Duh.

BlueNtheFace

10/23/18 9:58am

Nothing against the Church, yet you trivialize your experience with a patriarch.

BlackBart

10/23/18 10:15am

The main issue is with those who tolerate or associate with those Utes who

Iki_Balam

10/23/18 11:44am

That last paragraph is nonsense. Most people

Plato

10/23/18 12:06pm

There has to be cognitive dissonance, however, for an ALUF who goes to a footbal

demon_llama

10/23/18 12:40pm

I think so. No need to be easily offended. Even if offense is intended.

Plato

10/23/18 1:28pm

Here’s the thing. I never have to ignore the religious insults from BYU fans

demon_llama

10/23/18 1:30pm

You will hear comments everywhere but BYU.

Cougstreak

10/23/18 1:49pm

Nice assumption. Wrong tho. I've lived all over the world since I left Provo

demon_llama

10/23/18 3:54pm

So you assume they agree with it? Wow.

Cougstreak

10/23/18 4:54pm

Surrounded by those not of their beliefs =/= Surround by haters of their beliefs

Iki_Balam

10/23/18 12:58pm

For everyone of them....

Cougstreak

10/23/18 1:11pm

Who the heck cares?

SL12

10/23/18 1:15pm

Amen.

Cougstreak

10/23/18 1:47pm

Ever been to a game at Rice Eccles?

BYU '80

10/23/18 6:04pm

I'm a fan of sports teams and individuals who represent the USA in competition

Belboz

10/23/18 12:50pm

Seriously? Your take is that Ute fans all hate Jesus. SMH

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 4:49pm

Reading comprehension fail. Not surprising

BYU '80

10/23/18 6:04pm

They reconcile by searching far and wide to anything

BYU '80

10/23/18 6:03pm

I don't get the comment about him having an "axe to grind" with the Church. I

chilango

10/23/18 11:28am

See Blackbart’s comment above.

Ned Schneebly

10/23/18 11:34am

Yes, I had read that comment already. I don't see how it demonstrates an ax to

chilango

10/23/18 2:26pm

Just my interpretation based on the fact that he casually dropped it in there.

Ned Schneebly

10/23/18 3:45pm

As long as we’re making believe that we’re psychoanalysts, my take is that the

chilango

10/23/18 6:19pm

RE: As long as we’re making believe that we’re psychoanalysts, my

Ned Schneebly

10/23/18 7:05pm

Here you go

chilango

10/23/18 8:12pm

You’re making stuff up - we love non member and inactive BYU fans

Pobs

10/23/18 12:14pm

I'm sorry my post was so vague that you completely missed the point

Plato

10/23/18 12:16pm

First thing: your patriarch did not "say" you would..God did and the patriarch was the one who told you what God said.

Real G Man

10/23/18 12:27pm

Take it to the religious thread. I never said that

Plato

10/23/18 1:30pm

I agree you never said that he was wrong. My point was he never said it--God did..then I just expanded my thought

Real G Man

10/23/18 2:17pm

I don’t know what those acronyms mean so....

troutmaster13

10/23/18 8:32am

Is your name Kate Kelly? If not, then no. I don’t hate you.

fiberpost

10/23/18 8:33am

Y'all are my favey. Just like the beer drinking ones. We have plenty of reg fans

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

10/23/18 8:38am

Any type of byu fan is >>>>>> than any kind of Ute fan.

Zach Morris

10/23/18 8:42am

Nope. Regardless of Church membership/activity

TheLoneCougar

10/23/18 8:52am

Apostate from the church or from BYU? No forgiveness for apostatizing from BYU.

CharlottesvilleCoug

10/23/18 9:09am

None needed.

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 5:00pm

No one was trying to address you in any way

BYU '80

10/23/18 6:05pm

You seem confused. Or a Yewt fan trying to stir the pot.

Real Men Wear Blue

10/23/18 9:17am

I don't despise either one

Gorgias

10/23/18 9:18am

Why do ALYFs have a persecution complex?

Richbyu

10/23/18 9:19am

Do they? I do think so. I haven't said

Plato

10/23/18 9:50am

Seems like you are trying to attach the actions of a few people to a whole group

Richbyu

10/23/18 10:00am

I chastise only the guilty. If your heart is full of love for your

Plato

10/23/18 10:05am

Are you projecting?

Richbyu

10/23/18 10:10am

Are you using that word correctly? I don't know what you mean.

Plato

10/23/18 10:13am

And it seems that nobody has any idea what your original post meant.

sidsie716

10/23/18 10:26am

I think I have. If not, too late now.

Plato

10/23/18 10:27am

Great point. It seems to always crop up whenever anyone disagrees with their

Bluegoogles

10/23/18 5:02pm

That thread was quite obnoxious to me too.

conetah

10/23/18 9:56am

Congrats on making the front page with one of the most pointless threads I've

BoiseBlueCoug

10/23/18 10:47am

Amén!

Plato

10/23/18 10:49am

I have contempt for all yewt fans equally

stoils

10/23/18 10:54am

I guess what I'm trying to understand based on reading all your posts on this

byukarl

10/23/18 10:59am

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byu56

10/23/18 1:24pm

Sounds like you're a rivalrist. Das is good

RealSimsShadY

10/23/18 1:26pm

I have never heard of anyone ever saying anything bad about "apostate" BYU fans

Gil Buckman

10/23/18 11:07am

Moreover, the "criticism" of ALUFs has much less to do with them

Gil Buckman

10/23/18 12:03pm

And there willingness to put up with said antics

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:44pm

No way! The drunken, smoking BYU fan is always my best friend and brother!

Iki_Balam

10/23/18 11:23am

Plato, you need to "Get ALYF", all Y fans are valued here

VballDad

10/23/18 12:21pm

ALYF Checking in. Only problem is when there's political/religious discussions.

CougHomer

10/23/18 12:29pm

ALUF is a different thing than just a mormon Utah fan.

riboflavin

10/23/18 12:34pm

Active LDS Yankees Fan?

demon_llama

10/23/18 12:35pm

flip side-I can't stand people who say they're fans just because they're members

RealSimsShadY

10/23/18 1:10pm

Leave it at sports. You're making a connection that is irrelevant when it comes

RealSimsShadY

10/23/18 1:13pm

Apostate BYU fan here. I hate everything yewts do. Everything. Unconditional

byu56

10/23/18 1:25pm

I agree.. plus I hate the color Red

byukarl

10/23/18 1:34pm

Pump the brakes. I'm a half-breed ginger..but I'm a man. It's common

JarJarBeeps

10/23/18 5:38pm

I feel the same. I had a few Utah fans think I'd somehow "join" them and reject

JarJarBeeps

10/23/18 5:36pm

I think you care more about your standing with the church than any of us do.

IrishCooga

10/23/18 2:15pm

Meh, aluf is just a way to poke fun at Utah. I’m not sure there is any real hate

BlueTooth

10/23/18 3:48pm

Consider me in the minority.

JarJarBeeps

10/23/18 5:39pm

Aggie here speaking...I am 100% sure nobody here despises you.

ditch

10/23/18 3:56pm

I thought ALUF was an acronym for an alumni of UU

D.T. Survivor

10/23/18 4:39pm

Is apostate Y fan the same as anti Mormon Y fan?

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/23/18 5:43pm

Y2k

10/23/18 6:16pm

Then I agree that BYU fans absolutely love inactive BYU

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/23/18 8:48pm

The problem is that some fans are extremely sensitive and trigger-happy in

chilango

10/23/18 8:59pm

It is possible to be disaffected or disinterested without being hostile.

Archaea

10/24/18 10:14am

Eye of beholder. Some go to the “anti!” card pretty quick. Re who qualifies

MatthiasG

10/23/18 8:32pm

Exactly why I wanted to ask.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/24/18 12:47pm

You can fall out of activity for a number of reasons;

Archaea

10/24/18 12:52pm

Exactly, that’s why I asked.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/24/18 5:43pm

Agreed. The term as used colloquially is too broad.

Archaea

10/25/18 2:10pm

You don't know how? So you do it without evening know, huh.

YSMACK

10/23/18 9:05pm

Being obnoxious is a valued trait on CB.

CougarThug

10/23/18 9:09pm

Hyper-sensitive about perceptions by others would be the apt descriptor

Archaea

10/24/18 11:45am

<< Deleted >>

Abe Froman

10/23/18 9:36pm

RE: ALYF. Apostate LDS BYU Fan. Do you guys despise us as much as you despise

Agnostic-alumni

10/24/18 12:35am

Apparently you can quit the Church but can't quit the persecution complex.

CougarMandias

10/24/18 7:22am

This brings up a good point. What’s the most replied to thread ever?

Y2k

10/24/18 12:47pm

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