I was your 7 year old in the early 80s. I’ve lived

Feb 25, 2021
10:17:28am

hebercreeper 3rd String

exactly what he did. The rivalry has come full circle. I’ve taught my son, who is also a Utah fan, to never make fun of someone for supporting their team.

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hebercreeper

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Occasionally Im reminded about the drastic change that has taken place in Utah regarding those who are BYU and Utah fans

Zach Morris True moderate

2/25/21 8:31am

Intense BYU fanhood is forged in the fires of adversity.

GilaHank

2/25/21 8:33am

40 years of struggle. books are written about stuff like this

johnnycarson

2/25/21 8:35am

This is true, I know from experience

CougarLucas

2/25/21 12:57pm

So glad that there’s basketball

kC Cougar

2/25/21 8:34am

The 2020 11-1 season feels good, too.

Benfica1

2/25/21 11:02am

Where did the dad go to school...maybe he got rejected by BYU and chose to go

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

2/25/21 8:35am

I generally don’t understand the concept of feeling mandated to root for the school you attended. Having known several

Zach Morris

2/25/21 8:41am

When you went to high school did you root for another, rival, high school...it's

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

2/25/21 8:43am

^^^THIS^^^ don’t overthink it. really not that complicated.

zerome4sooners

2/25/21 2:46pm

Sure, not everyone does this and there's nothing that says you have to, but it

Tricky

2/25/21 1:06pm

I grew up a Utah fan. It all changed when after my freshman year at BYU

RipCityCougar

2/25/21 1:20pm

Echo this - Grew up a Utah fan, went to BYU, became a BYU fan

krindorr

2/25/21 3:16pm

Though I'll caveat that I didn't have this same experience when I went to USAFA

krindorr

2/25/21 5:41pm

Agree here. I love BYU and USC. Didn't go to either school.

ReggaeCoug

2/25/21 4:01pm

I agree. I love BYU and Utah's next opponent.

CougarThug

2/25/21 7:15pm

A friend of mine attended USU for undergrad and the U for med school. He has BYU

TailgateU

2/26/21 7:46am

Yep I always root against both Harvard and Yale. They suck!!!!

Q-grr

2/25/21 9:58pm

This used to bother me a lot. I've just accepted it now, and I proudly rep BYU.

DraperCoug22

2/25/21 8:39am

tell him 80K

BYU Grounds

2/25/21 8:44am

Winning solves all ills.

Bluforever

2/25/21 8:48am

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^

bald man

2/25/21 9:34am

Beating Utah repeatedly for several years is the only way to swing the pendulum

ptcougr

2/25/21 2:30pm

Football is King in Utah

moabmax

2/25/21 3:36pm

A large percentage are anti-BYU fans rather than Utah fans

D.T. Survivor

2/25/21 8:49am

Ha.

Cougstreak

2/25/21 9:27am

I think it's just a part of the evolution. Sad, but it does happen.

TailgateU

2/25/21 9:31am

LOL

Regal Ute

2/25/21 1:26pm

Anti-church, axe-to-grinders. It's more about hating BYU than liking the yewts

shammy

2/25/21 4:05pm

Dang that sucks. These kinds of posts are also a good reminder to me that it’s

freekarl

2/25/21 8:52am

I've seen a slowing of that trend the last few years

kccougar

2/25/21 9:00am

A lot of truth here. It’s definitely slowed down over the last 2-3 years.

Zach Morris

2/25/21 9:00am

My boys love to wear their Y gear. They don't hear much smack any more...

Benfica1

2/25/21 9:03am

Interesting. As a school principal, that hasn't really been my experience-

Jomilo21

2/25/21 9:06am

It's certainly lost luster; both because of the imbalance and the lack of impact

krindorr

2/25/21 3:48pm

It's about wins and losses.

Forzaitalia

2/25/21 9:06am

Honestly I don’t think it’s changed that much from when I was a kid

USMCdad

2/25/21 9:21am

I agree with this, I experienced the same as a BYU fan growing up 80s and 90s

trueblue04

2/25/21 9:32am

I never noticed an imbalance in Davis county. I thought it was fairly even in

TailgateU

2/25/21 9:38am

Same. Even a slight BYU lean. Utah fans were fairly quiet, especially given they were bad in football.

Cougstreak

2/25/21 9:53am

If I were to guess, I'd say BYU lean in South Davis County

Frank Drebin

2/25/21 12:13pm

Say "Hi" to Rachel.

coolblue

2/25/21 12:17pm

Haha, will do.

Frank Drebin

2/25/21 12:53pm

Part of it is destination of BYU grads vs. Utah grads.

CosmoK

2/25/21 9:22am

This is so true. Kids grew up in UT County

Dbl Nickel

2/25/21 10:33am

Well, “none” and “ever” are a little extreme. I’m a case of someone who left

flyonawall

2/25/21 11:03am

HCBW can only pray you are right.

Dbl Nickel

2/25/21 11:08am

I moved away, got a nice-paying job, then was able to talk them into letting

flyonawall

2/25/21 8:03pm

My experience as a non-Utah Mormon is almost all the Utah Mormons from my

Fargo

2/25/21 2:41pm

Down here in St. George we probably have more BYU fans than U, but it's close

wiscougarfan

2/25/21 3:00pm

This is just further proof that orthodoxy mormon = wackjob.

NewYorkCougar

2/25/21 9:25am

It's quite simple really. . .BYU enrollment is steady; everyone else is up and

notaboy

2/25/21 9:28am

We orthodox Mormons have been making fun of BYU fans since before I was born.

CrimsonCardinal

2/25/21 9:35am

Yes, make fun of your own church school and support a school who have a vocal

BlooCoog

2/25/21 11:57am

They don’t hate me.

CrimsonCardinal

2/25/21 12:38pm

Are you Mormon? If so, they may not like you either. I attended both Utah & BYU

BlooCoog

2/25/21 12:45pm

That sort of stuff never really bothered me much while I attended Utah. And

kos

2/25/21 1:54pm

Of course they do. You just refuse to acknowledge it

shammy

2/25/21 4:06pm

This is something I think about alot. And I don't think you are right.

Jwine09

2/25/21 9:38am

I was your 7 year old in the early 80s. I’ve lived

hebercreeper

2/25/21 10:17am

it's not just about sports

run26

2/25/21 10:25am

It really isn’t about which team they like. I grew up in California. I graduated

RobDog

2/25/21 10:33am

Your son wasn't alive the last time BYU beat Utah...

reddead

2/25/21 10:40am

Ouch

TomPetty

2/25/21 10:42am

RE: Occasionally Im reminded about the drastic change that has taken place in

Ham

2/25/21 10:53am

Two things (CB won't like this). Utah winning and BYU indy -

Moops

2/25/21 11:10am

Nah. It's just about winning.

Benfica1

2/25/21 11:32am

This is where CB is very wrong.

Moops

2/25/21 12:07pm

RE: This is where CB is very wrong.

Benfica1

2/25/21 1:18pm

I also think AAC is our best route to potential P5 inclusion

krindorr

2/25/21 3:56pm

Meh. Tell your kid to punch the Ute in the face and say something to the effect

OldFogey

2/25/21 11:18am

Reality is, kids suck sometimes. They make fun of things they actually like...

Preppy

2/25/21 11:37am

I was a BYU fan in Sandy, Utah in the 80s. BYU rocked, uu sucked. Often I heard

Benfica1

2/25/21 11:47am

you lost me at "white mormons"

Pollster

2/25/21 11:43am

Looks like you're alone.

Brisco

2/25/21 3:48pm

Being an active LDS doesn't mean you should be a BYU fan, especially when it comes to sports

Alpi Gusto

2/25/21 11:50am

It should at least mean you don't spew hate and vitriol at us like yewt fans do

shammy

2/26/21 10:06am

This is the correct take. I also would like to not hate the U, and at times have

TailgateU

2/26/21 11:15am

Utah's elevation to the PAC-12 and Bronco & Kalani's difficulty beating Utah are

BlooCoog

2/25/21 11:55am

Tell him you cheer for your churches school and not for an anti-LDS school

SoValleyCOUG

2/25/21 12:01pm

I don't remember the "Bronco win drought years. I must have missed that.

coolblue

2/25/21 12:12pm

Buy him an Oregon shirt, problem solved

Hutch65

2/25/21 12:12pm

LIFE LESSON. KIDS MAKE FUN OF KIDS FOR EVERYTHING

lilpenny

2/25/21 12:43pm

RE: LIFE LESSON. KIDS MAKE FUN OF KIDS FOR EVERYTHING

Lip Gallagher

2/25/21 1:08pm

it doesn't help that 90% of the kids who get accepted to BYU are nerds

Str8CashCougar

2/25/21 12:46pm

I have a theory that is rooted in who BYU admits, and particularly where from.

cougrfan70

2/25/21 1:12pm

I could argue that it is easier to get into BYU vs certain parts of the country.

Cougstreak

2/25/21 1:59pm

My point is less about comparing acedemics, and more about the Church

cougrfan70

2/25/21 3:28pm

RE: My point is less about comparing acedemics, and more about the Church

Cougstreak

2/25/21 3:45pm

I've said it before and I will say it again...

footballjunkie

2/25/21 1:33pm

As others have said, it has to do with where the students come from now

ogdencoug

2/25/21 2:00pm

anyone who doesn't know the difference between UU and U St. is frankly ignorant

run26

2/25/21 2:58pm

Agreed, my 2nd favorite school is the Oregon Beavers.

CougarThug

2/25/21 7:39pm

In the northeast....

Cougstreak

2/25/21 3:15pm

BYU 90 and Utah 147 according to this site.

cougrfan70

2/25/21 3:37pm

people look at US News and World Report generally: it's BYU 80 UU 97

run26

2/25/21 3:39pm

The gap between the two is much larger than USN@WR likes to rank.

cougrfan70

2/25/21 3:42pm

according to you. i guess we can believe you or US News

run26

2/25/21 3:46pm

Interesting.

Cougstreak

2/26/21 10:57am

Correct, except the Y thing.

Benfica1

2/26/21 10:59am

Kind of. BYU is not exactly a big brand name sports program.

Cougstreak

2/26/21 11:17am

And Yale is a no-name sports program. Underselling doesn't make

Benfica1

2/26/21 1:41pm

Yale is a brand name, maybe not in sports, but a global name....don't kid yourself.

Cougstreak

2/26/21 1:47pm

Did anyone say Yale wasn't? My experience: BYU academics/sports is known in NYC

Benfica1

2/26/21 2:14pm

Dishonest? Relax!

Cougstreak

2/26/21 3:26pm

Stop moving the goal posts.

Benfica1

2/26/21 3:55pm

Some of the logos (not necessarily stretch Y) are VERY similar

krindorr

2/26/21 4:17pm

Go Cougs! Yes it gets confused...not everyone knows BYU's logo and Yale is more known here thus confusion

Cougstreak

2/26/21 5:36pm

RE: In the northeast....

TailgateU

2/26/21 11:38am

I think in the 80's it was over 50% BYU students from Utah

cougrfan70

2/25/21 3:31pm

BYU kicks their trash in literally everything except women’s gymnastic and football. That’s it.

Turnpike Lane

2/25/21 2:55pm

Your point is BYU is anything but a Football school...haaaa

Motherchucker

2/25/21 3:00pm

No, my point is BYU is much more than just a football school.

Turnpike Lane

2/25/21 3:11pm

As they say, if you can’t, teach. If you can’t teach, work for the Church

BlackBart

2/25/21 4:12pm

Don't you live around Tooele? That seems to be part of it...

jwf

2/25/21 4:17pm

“Fools mock but they shall mourn.” And does it really matter who his dad is?

StalwartBraveTrue

2/25/21 5:30pm

A kid’s dad interacts with her quorum of the 12 nearly every single day — yet the kid acts like a jackass by poking fun

Zach Morris

2/25/21 7:48pm

Pokes fun at the school of sports teams?

Cougstreak

2/25/21 9:21pm

I find that “higher standard” silly I guess.

StalwartBraveTrue

2/26/21 7:22am

Influx of bandwagon Utah fans is due to far left....

RockyTopCougar

2/25/21 6:51pm

Honestly, I don't see much talk at all about BYU on Utah message boards

krindorr

2/26/21 6:35am

Me either, I never visit there. I appreciate the Utes that come here and post.

Q-grr

2/26/21 7:48am

I'm a fan of both (which I know rubs some people wrong)

krindorr

2/26/21 8:06am

No man can serve 2 masters! It's in the scriptures. lol

OldFogey

2/26/21 10:56am

Somebody has been buying that goofy hat.

Q-grr

2/26/21 8:04pm

Band wagon fans Winning makes a difference but

1CougFan

2/25/21 7:22pm

I used to wear BYU hats and hoodies to work. I had to stop. (Self employed)

MrClark

2/26/21 12:02pm

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