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In Las Vegas ICU 95% are unvaccinated.
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17 ICU patients died of COVID over the weekend in our ICU. One was a…
canofpicante
9/22/21 8:38am
In summation: Get vaccinated. Get healthy. In that order.
MarkWatney
9/22/21 8:40am
Love that 2nd point...COVID was an excellent opportunity to call more awareness
ordinary tri guy
9/22/21 11:13am
Imagine how great it would have been if Trump had said "This virus kills fat people, join me as I lose the weight I
HarlemCoug
9/22/21 11:18am
^^^like I said, people make it about politics^^^
ordinary tri guy
9/22/21 1:02pm
Or Fauci could have said it. The fact he didn’t is also telling.
BigEasyCougar
9/23/21 7:13am
While it is true that getting fit reduces your risk there are still too many
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 11:36am
Show us your data to back up "there are still too many cases among the fit"
RUNBYU1
9/22/21 12:56pm
I’m not here to argue that being obese isn’t a risk factor.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 1:53pm
Obesity was and is the number one indicator of hospitalization and death
ordinary tri guy
9/22/21 1:02pm
Exactly. Your comment is so on point. Get healthy, lose weight, get vaccinated.
RUNBYU1
9/22/21 1:08pm
Exactly. Do both.
oryguncoug
9/23/21 11:48am
It may have been >70% at one point for overweight/obese, but it's consistently >90% unvaccinated. THAT is the single
unctoothman
9/22/21 1:13pm
I don't understand how people can ignore this simple fact regardless of obesity
oryguncoug
9/23/21 5:26pm
It’s about vaccination not political agendas.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 1:58pm
While obesity may be the number one indicator, the one thing someone can do
Littlerich
9/22/21 3:18pm
Where are you getting that information? Link?
canofpicante
9/23/21 6:23pm
This is not true at all. Best single intervention is the vaccine. Full stop
MDub1
9/22/21 2:04pm
Yep…and people aren’t dying at a high rate
byuguns55
9/22/21 8:09pm
Vaccine question for CB docs? Is there any data on protection for those who
TailgateU
9/22/21 2:07pm
Great question!
RUNBYU1
9/22/21 2:53pm
No. There is no good data. This has not been studied.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 4:13pm
We need stories like this shared all over social media CB etc. Hopefully they can see these tragedies and change.
Baron
9/22/21 8:43am
So sad
Blueto
9/22/21 8:43am
What hospital do you work at?
IDAHO 4 Y
9/22/21 8:44am
Magic Valley in Twin
canofpicante
9/22/21 8:52am
I think up in sun valley had the worst per capita
johnnycarson
9/22/21 8:56am
Last year. This year it’s worse here.
canofpicante
9/22/21 9:38am
Was this just in Twin or from all of the St Lukes network throughout Idaho?
IDAHO 4 Y
9/22/21 9:52am
All of Idaho is struggling right now.
canofpicante
9/22/21 10:16am
It seems Twin has consistently had near the highest rates in the state.
Joe Banks
9/22/21 2:17pm
It has a huge catchment (probably 300k people). Most rural and uneducated.
canofpicante
9/22/21 2:38pm
Boise area is getting rocked as well. 🙁
Big Daddy D
9/23/21 12:41am
A recently retired doctor I know came out of retirement to help with the COVID
Scratch
9/22/21 8:47am
This has (unfortunately) been a recurring tragedy of the pandemic.
goodcleanfun
9/22/21 9:09am
So vaccination doesn’t do anything to protect them…
pegushin
9/22/21 9:46am
Dumb post of the day right here - already proven to give 5x-6x protection
FallingRock
9/22/21 9:56am
Come on, man.
durandal
9/22/21 10:01am
Pegushin's middle school science teacher was handing back his tests upside down, but he's still here spreading false
Alpi Gusto
9/22/21 10:03am
Can’t blame the unvaccinated for his death, that’s dishonest
pegushin
9/22/21 10:16am
If the unvaccinated would get the vaccine, spread of the disease would decrease and the vaccinated would be far less
durandal
9/22/21 10:34am
Oh please. If the vast majority of this country were vaccinated he'd be alive.
Scratch
9/22/21 10:39am
In the words of Sherman Potter…horse hockey
pegushin
9/22/21 10:54am
Just because you don't understand something doesn't make you right.
Byron McNertney
9/22/21 11:13am
I dont understand that unvaxed didn’t kill this doctor?
pegushin
9/22/21 11:33am
No - you don't understand that with fewer unvaxxed people he would never have...
Eddie
9/22/21 11:40am
Based on your posts in this thread, you don't understand vaccines at all.
Byron McNertney
9/22/21 11:57am
So try and help those that agree that a vaccinated person shouldn’t need
bigbossbyu
9/22/21 11:59am
All of them! That's how vaccines protect the "herd." This has literally been
Byron McNertney
9/22/21 12:18pm
Literally every vaccine. That’s how they work.
Jay Rick
9/22/21 12:24pm
What about natural immunity as well? So if 60-70% of the pop is vaccinated, and
bigbossbyu
9/22/21 12:37pm
Generally speaking, the way vaccines work is by reducing the number of “hosts”
Jay Rick
9/22/21 12:48pm
Thanks for the level headed response. Genuinely appreciate it. Would it be
bigbossbyu
9/22/21 1:05pm
Idk. Here’s my guess though - the increase in numbers is just an overall
Jay Rick
9/22/21 3:07pm
This vaccine does not contain virus and therefore cannot be spread.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 3:48pm
Good questions!
libertycoug
9/22/21 4:42pm
I'd take those facts about the Pfizer vaccine to a doctor and see what he thinks
greatbam
9/22/21 11:23pm
Delta is a beast. Imagine the hospitals right now if 70% were not vaccinated.
Hill4Heisman
9/22/21 1:25pm
The decision seems pretty easy to me when you look at the numbers:
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 5:17pm
Important study regarding natural immunity versus double vaccination
BYUlum
9/22/21 8:42pm
This has got to be a joke. I’m worried it isn’t.
inutero
9/22/21 8:48pm
Seriously? What about this peer reviewed study about vaccines that don’t stop
bigbossbyu
9/22/21 11:56pm
Here’s what the lead author of that study is to say about the COVID vaccines
ebv
9/23/21 3:46am
Super interesting that's for sure!
RUNBYU1
9/23/21 4:24pm
You're right, bro. This doctor got himself sick and killed himself...
HoustonBYUCoug
9/22/21 2:23pm
the vast majority in this country are vaccinated or or have natural immunity
gilmerbuckeye
9/22/21 11:48am
Isn't most of the country vaxxed already? 62% I believe that is a majority.
CObluezone
9/22/21 12:49pm
Just over 50% fully vaccinated
inutero
9/22/21 8:51pm
Adults. Not total pop
CObluezone
9/23/21 4:50am
The dude came out of retirement to help care for COVID patients.
Eddie
9/22/21 10:40am
RE: Can’t blame the unvaccinated for his death, that’s dishonest
TailgateU
9/22/21 10:48am
In this case, I think you can.
Alpi Gusto
9/22/21 11:38am
If 90% of his community got vaccinated he would’ve been golfing and not working.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 11:40am
“Someone died while wearing a seatbelt therefore seatbelts don’t save lives.”
Odysseus
9/22/21 10:17am
Pegushin, you eyeroll, but why?
(Private)
9/22/21 12:24pm
Ban him.
Lifer
9/22/21 11:23am
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bigbossbyu
9/22/21 12:45pm
The folks that run this board are anti vaccine sympathizers. He’s not getting
The Old Y
9/23/21 9:53am
RE: The folks that run this board are anti vaccine sympathizers. He’s not
SJS
9/23/21 9:58am
There are breakthrough cases and deaths. Here are the numbers in a good readable
canofpicante
9/22/21 3:01pm
That is the stupidest post of the day.
ditch
9/22/21 4:45pm
Again, how can anyone read this and shrug it off? I don't get it.
jkccoug
9/22/21 10:42am
Sad - people dying of COVID opens beds to care for more COVID patients.
Eddie
9/22/21 8:52am
Frankly, it comes down to selfishness. Had a woman I grew up with
beatnik
9/22/21 9:08am
Vaxxed people spread COVID as much as unvaxxed do.
HighHorse
9/22/21 9:15am
Symptomatic infected vaxxed people spread just as much. But it’s less likely to get infected, so no, you’re wrong.
zsmooth
9/22/21 9:18am
Don't try to bring facts to a battle of meme statements.
chago04
9/22/21 9:21am
Not quite true either. The vaccine doesn't make you less likely to get infected
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 9:23am
That's not true.
TN_Coug
9/22/21 9:25am
Further more
TN_Coug
9/22/21 9:26am
Antibodies fight the virus once the virus has entered your body.
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 9:40am
That's why they say you're not fully vaccinated until 2 wks after last dose.
beatnik
9/22/21 9:44am
Having the virus enter your body doesn't make you sick.
Eddie
9/22/21 9:45am
I never said "sick" in my post. I said infected. Confirmation bias is strong
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 9:59am
You are making a distinction between labeling claims from the manufacturer and what it does in the real world.
TN_Coug
9/22/21 9:54am
No, I'm making a distinction that what was said is not technically true.
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 10:09am
So are you changing your argument now?
TN_Coug
9/22/21 10:11am
Not in the slightest.
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 10:31am
There isn't an easy way to say this. You are 100% wrong.
TN_Coug
9/22/21 10:43am
I dunno - that seemed like a pretty easy way to say it.
Eddie
9/22/21 10:51am
Is there a difference between the virus and the disease, like HIV and AIDS? And
Jay Rick
9/22/21 10:54am
I don't think HIV/AIDS is a good comparison.
TN_Coug
9/22/21 11:31am
No, the vaccine is also effective at preventing infection. Between 4-8x less
chago04
9/22/21 9:25am
Actually - it does both.
Eddie
9/22/21 9:26am
Nope. It doesn't "prevent" it reduces.
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 9:51am
RE: Nope. It doesn't "prevent" it reduces.
TN_Coug
9/22/21 9:55am
Fluoride in water reduces tooth decay. It also prevents tooth decay. One is an epidemiological term, one is a mechanism.
unctoothman
9/22/21 11:18am
UNCtoother articulated it much better than I did. Thanks.
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 12:30pm
I keep seeing anti-vaxx people spread the same lies and half truths each day
WDaddy
9/22/21 9:25am
Shocking that the "do my own research" people misunderstand simple facts.
chago04
9/22/21 9:26am
Just like flat earthers.
Byron McNertney
9/22/21 9:28am
Hey. Don't bring up facts here. The earth is most definitely flat and vaccines are good.
letthewookieewin
9/22/21 9:33am
I live in central Indiana. I can confirm the earth's flatness.
TailgateU
9/22/21 9:38am
I know. I don’t know why i bothered.
zsmooth
9/22/21 9:39am
Is there actual proof of this or are you making it up? Did asymptomatic carriers
bigbossbyu
9/22/21 12:04pm
The studies show they do not shed the vaccine at the same rate as symptomatic.
chago04
9/22/21 1:31pm
Link?
Byron McNertney
9/22/21 9:19am
RE: Vaxxed people spread COVID as much as unvaxxed do.
dYrtbYkerYder
9/22/21 9:20am
Let’s assume you’re correct, unvaxxed should still stay home to reduce
Jay Rick
9/22/21 9:21am
There's more than just that to the story, however, isn't there?
Eddie
9/22/21 9:21am
Exactly. If there is a breakthrough case, the viral loads are similar, but that
dYrtbYkerYder
9/22/21 9:24am
The conservative talk show host must've left that part out.
dYrtbYkerYder
9/22/21 9:25am
This is the equivalent of bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Turnpike Lane
9/22/21 9:25am
A dull plastic butter knife.
chago04
9/22/21 9:35am
Not a single study out there supporting this.
Mtbcoug
9/22/21 9:57am
I'm getting real tired of anti-vaxx crap
FatThor
9/22/21 10:04am
False snd fraudulent. You should be banned for false info
Archaea
9/23/21 10:16pm
El Jefe and the mods are too weak for that. But, they'll suspend you for less.
beatnik
9/24/21 7:14am
It is the harsh truth
bluelands
9/22/21 11:29am
Wow, spoken like a true marxist!! Congrats Commrade.
CObluezone
9/22/21 12:54pm
My cousin just lost his FIL. My wife's best friend just lost her mom. A friend
TailgateU
9/22/21 9:26am
This week I lost my fifth friend to Covid. All of them unvaccinated.
(Private)
9/22/21 9:31am
Holy moly! Sorry, that has to be rough 🙁
jellyfish
9/22/21 9:46am
It is. This last one was a little harder.
(Private)
9/22/21 12:18pm
Is this true? I haven’t lost a single person, not just friend, that I actually
gilmerbuckeye
9/22/21 11:06pm
100% true. I am 42.
(Private)
9/23/21 12:07am
My neighbor is a 70+ obese diabetic and vaccinated.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 9:38am
This. You might still contract it, but at least you will likely survive.
jellyfish
9/22/21 9:49am
My wife is a respiratory therapist working in the ICU. More than 90% of all
Perseguir
9/22/21 9:49am
In Las Vegas ICU 95% are unvaccinated.
(Private)
9/22/21 10:23am
Sounds about right. What frustrates me most is yesterday we were going to lunch
Perseguir
9/22/21 11:11am
I thought we stopped intubation for covid because extubation rates were so bad?
EQD2
9/22/21 9:51am
Last resort
Turnpike Lane
9/22/21 9:52am
Well cut my life into pieces ...
MormonDevil
9/22/21 10:01am
Suffocation, no breathing
botticus
9/22/21 12:17pm
If a patient is gonna die and we have no other choice, then we give it a shot.
canofpicante
9/22/21 10:18am
Why? Better to die on a vent than off? Or do patients that sick still get off
EQD2
9/22/21 10:22am
Since March 2020 78% Intubated COVID patients have died. But in 22% it helped
canofpicante
9/22/21 2:34pm
So crazy, thanks so much for taking the time to post about this.
Blue for Life
9/22/21 10:02am
Eventually we need to adjust to the permanence of COVID. Healthcare needs to change.
Dr MoBYU
9/22/21 10:19am
I think we just need to respect the choice of the unvaccinated
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 11:48am
Likewise those that have adverse reactions to the vaccine should be withheld
bigbossbyu
9/22/21 12:25pm
A true man of the left. Pathetic bro!! Denying healthcare to unvaxxed???
CObluezone
9/22/21 12:59pm
Uh...you're basically advocating for universal healthcare.
Byron McNertney
9/22/21 1:15pm
This is actually a conservative idea.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 2:10pm
You are talking about denying treatment based on the disease itself.
CObluezone
9/22/21 2:47pm
You just said what I said using different words.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 4:00pm
Such a bad idea. Do we refuse treatment for overweight people with diabetes?
BigEasyCougar
9/22/21 1:23pm
When was the last time hospitals ran out of space because hundreds of DKA
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 2:15pm
Let’s do that with drug overdoses, DUIs, etc.
Blue Print
9/22/21 2:22pm
Finally, someone who gets it.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 4:02pm
So don’t treat them? Wow that’s a slippery slope
BYU '80
9/22/21 7:20pm
Idaho has gone to crisis standards of care because of a choice made by 50%
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 9:51pm
I live in Idaho and denying care to people based on their choices
BYU '80
9/22/21 10:02pm
I get what you are saying.
jellyfish
9/23/21 9:02am
Is it tyrannical and inhumane?
StalwartBraveTrue
9/23/21 10:24am
Idaho is under crisis standards as of a week ago. We Quite literally do not have
canofpicante
9/23/21 11:43am
If we quit taking care of folks who didn’t take care of themselves then we
canofpicante
9/22/21 7:58pm
I completely agree.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 10:01pm
Yep. Lead by example. But I don’t see anyone telling those that are obese to be
bigbossbyu
9/22/21 10:26pm
Obesity is entirely different.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/23/21 11:02am
To your point, obesity is a far bigger health epidemic in the United States
I'mBatman
9/23/21 1:12pm
If you can read this and shrug it off, I honestly don't get you.
jkccoug
9/22/21 10:40am
Are you responding to the OP? (Edit)
BYU'01
9/22/21 12:20pm
I didn't see the unedited version, but yes I did mean that the OP should not be
jkccoug
9/22/21 1:32pm
And what percentage of those dying are vaccinated compared to unvaccinated?
vabeachcoug
9/22/21 12:01pm
We’ll since vax started we’ve had 1 death of a fully vaccinated lady. She had
canofpicante
9/22/21 2:47pm
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TailgateU
9/22/21 12:51pm
Just curious on the average age and general physical health of those that died?
Thrill
9/22/21 1:35pm
From the article
jellyfish
9/22/21 1:38pm
Not in Idaho, but we had 3 patients under 28 die in our hospital over the weekend. A 4th who was thirty died at home.
TN_Coug
9/22/21 2:16pm
That’s not the question he asked. Co-morbidities for the 30 yr old?
CObluezone
9/22/21 2:50pm
Yep. Almost all certainly had serious health issues or were overweight to obese
RUNBYU1
9/22/21 2:56pm
Do you suggest that they don’t need our help and protection because they’re
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 4:08pm
He specifically asked if the people were generally young. I was answering that part of the question.
TN_Coug
9/22/21 3:38pm
Here’s the crazy thing. The effectiveness of the vaccine doesn’t change by age.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 4:11pm
I’m curious why you feel this matters?
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 4:05pm
Not sure about the average. But it’s younger this year. At one point every…
canofpicante
9/23/21 9:16am
I also live in the Magic Valley. I keep hearing people say nurses and doctors
Forest Green
9/22/21 4:30pm
96% of doctors got the vaccine.
TN_Coug
9/22/21 4:35pm
Even if true,I don’t think it says anything about the dangers of the vaccine.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 4:41pm
I totally agree. I’m interested to know how many docs/nurses in MV are actually
Forest Green
9/22/21 8:58pm
Anyone saying this is adding on “and doctors” to make their story sound
Jay Rick
9/22/21 5:12pm
Good point.
Forest Green
9/22/21 8:58pm
It’s now mandated. If they’re working. They got it.
canofpicante
9/23/21 9:18am
Good. I though I heard they extended that though…
Forest Green
9/23/21 10:51am
Fat and old and immune compromised people die
Tsisquan
9/22/21 5:57pm
So why not let anti-vaxxers die of it too. No more admissions for them.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/22/21 6:21pm
Old like a 30 year old who just gave birth?
Northwest Cougar
9/22/21 6:31pm
Crazy part: It’s a different demographic this year. Lots of folks in 40s, 50s,
canofpicante
9/22/21 6:38pm
RE: 17 ICU patients died of COVID over the weekend in our ICU. One was a…
ffcougarfan
9/22/21 6:22pm
Before there were covid19 vaccines, it was an entirely different situation
Belboz
9/22/21 7:57pm
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Joe Banks
9/22/21 8:36pm
🙁
cougarmikey
9/22/21 11:09pm
I hear you man. I appreciate you and your efforts. I agree with everything you
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9/23/21 8:38am
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