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Utah football to make $40 million in revenue within 2 years?
Medute
1/9/13 6:37am
I wonder if it is sustainable
kccougar
1/9/13 6:40am
Already in 60 million homes - very sustainable
Medute
1/9/13 6:46am
from what I understand it may be "available" to that many but not actually in
BYUFam1
1/9/13 9:51am
Yeah, I am not sure about that
Medute
1/9/13 10:54am
Too bad all that money couldn't buy them a bowl game.
BluePete
1/9/13 6:41am
Word
Medute
1/9/13 6:41am
no one can argue that Utes are benefit greatly from the PAC12 gravy train
bald man
1/9/13 6:47am
Still can't believe how lucky you guys are. Seriously. The PAC has a chance to
Iman23
1/9/13 6:56am
Everyone knows it. Which is precisely why you see so much "Fully Invited" PAC12
kccougar
1/9/13 6:59am
That is pretty funny, haven't seen those up here.
MatthiasG
1/9/13 5:18pm
I think there were 3 reasonable selections for PAC expansion
Medute
1/9/13 7:03am
Just surprises me b/c Larry Scott was supposed to be this innovative rain maker
Iman23
1/9/13 7:12am
You have to be careful with that growth
Medute
1/9/13 7:16am
Fit in academically. What a crock.
kccougar
1/9/13 7:14am
BYU is very different even than other religious schools
fleaman
1/9/13 7:20am
Religious requirements are not the same as academics.
kccougar
1/9/13 7:23am
The lack of academic freedom is academic, and the way BYU is run
fleaman
1/9/13 7:26am
RE: BYU is very different even than other religious schools
Lynk
1/9/13 8:00am
If you oppose Church policy, you can be fired
fleaman
1/9/13 9:45am
Try to see clearly through your hatred
Medute
1/9/13 7:25am
That's the funny thing. People talk about fitting in the PAC12
kccougar
1/9/13 7:28am
What conference doesn't have bottom feeder schools academically speaking.
MatthiasG
1/9/13 5:21pm
They should also take advantage of USC's continuous meltdown and have a good
Downtown
1/9/13 7:05am
Byu should be in a big conference, no question
jdart
1/9/13 7:06am
Tell the truth, you have a Pac12 sticker on your car, don't you?
kccougar
1/9/13 7:16am
Yes, along with an Under Armour sticker and 12 Utah logos
jdart
1/9/13 7:17am
I'll give you a slight advantage in academics, with the med school, and research
Iman23
1/9/13 7:19am
I see as much research coming out of BYU as I do Utah, med school excepted.
kccougar
1/9/13 7:22am
Most educational conversations are about graduate schools
jdart
1/9/13 7:27am
Convince me that science grad programs at the U put out more research.
kccougar
1/9/13 7:29am
Per Pac12, a researcher that prays is not really a researcher.
Hoosier Coug
1/9/13 7:31am
BYU's research budget: $29.5 million Utah's: $370 million+
fleaman
1/9/13 7:42am
LOL.
kccougar
1/9/13 7:45am
What are the P&T standards at each school?
Hoosier Coug
1/9/13 7:48am
-chirp, chirp-
Hoosier Coug
1/9/13 7:55am
Tenure is "continuing status" @ BYU. At Utah it's like other public research
fleaman
1/9/13 8:14am
RE: Tenure is "continuing status" @ BYU. At Utah it's like other public
Lynk
1/9/13 8:24am
If it is the same why not call it tenure?
fleaman
1/9/13 8:51am
It is the same
Lynk
1/9/13 9:11am
Process the same but reasons very different
fleaman
1/9/13 9:30am
Define
Lynk
1/9/13 9:52am
For math & physics, I'm sure BYU has academic freedom
fleaman
1/9/13 9:59am
Define
Lynk
1/9/13 10:15am
Research at BYU cannot lead to the conclusion that the LDS Church is not true
fleaman
1/9/13 10:33am
Disagree
Lynk
1/9/13 4:48pm
Those figures are from 2009. Utah's research budget is now north of $430 million
Corsica
5/2/14 11:04am
It's relatively easy to get into many of Utah's grad programs as well.
Bro
1/9/13 7:31am
ALL of Utah's National Academy of Sciences members are at Utah
fleaman
1/9/13 7:30am
Lincoln hated Mormons!
BlueFrog
1/9/13 7:33am
The enrollment advantage is more a reflection of religion and cost than quality
Medute
1/9/13 7:41am
Not sure I followed your logic.
CougarEyes
1/9/13 7:55am
That's not what I was debating
Medute
1/9/13 7:57am
Academic Programs
Lynk
1/9/13 8:17am
You won't hear me cut on BYU's academics anywhere
Medute
1/9/13 8:23am
RE: You won't hear me cut on BYU's academics anywhere
Lynk
1/9/13 8:30am
I think they get a great education
Medute
1/9/13 8:43am
Listen, you are biased, and so am I....
idacoug
1/9/13 7:35am
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jdart
1/9/13 7:43am
Do you think it has to do specifically with Mormonism or just religion
Medute
1/9/13 7:56am
Right. When given the choice, always go with the Yes man.
kccougar
1/9/13 7:58am
Again, researchers and students who pray really aren't academic at all.
Hoosier Coug
1/9/13 7:58am
Would the Pac take
MHOP
1/9/13 8:04am
They already give ND
MHOP
1/9/13 8:08am
Notre Dame is less like BYU than you think
Medute
1/9/13 8:12am
And at least now we're coming round to the real issues
kccougar
1/9/13 8:07am
Two words - Prop 8
TeeKaa
1/9/13 8:47am
I certainly disagree with several things you posted
Medute
1/9/13 9:01am
And related, PAC12 developing Utah's potential is why the Rivalry game is dead.
kccougar
1/9/13 9:11am
Exactly what I thought when I read the post.
Y Mountain
1/9/13 10:35am
I think potential, if we look at best case for all
TeeKaa
1/9/13 12:04pm
Let's look at football closer
Medute
1/9/13 12:52pm
I agree the series has been close the last 10 years
TeeKaa
1/9/13 2:32pm
I don't think it's as lopsided as you think
Medute
1/9/13 5:13pm
Research budgets at P12 schools:
fleaman
1/9/13 9:52am
Bunch of bigots
Hoosier Coug
1/9/13 6:59am
The hard part is that Utah's now competing with teams that make twice that
hansel
1/9/13 7:01am
Very true...Texas $150 million revenue last I saw
Medute
1/9/13 7:06am
It is crazy the difference between conferences. It's still tough for Utah to
Bro
1/9/13 7:14am
Utah is going to have to find their niche
Medute
1/9/13 7:28am
You can't expect anything better than the AZ schools
TXSmith
1/9/13 7:43am
Their niche could be in basketball...
Y Mountain
1/9/13 10:15am
You make great points
Medute
1/9/13 10:56am
Why does any fan care about revenue for the school?
Swiadomy
1/9/13 7:36am
Athletic revenue matters because it means new facilities
jdart
1/9/13 7:41am
Look at what has happened since the announcement
Medute
1/9/13 7:48am
So they hired BJ as OC bc they had more money?
TN_Coug
1/9/13 7:51am
Money to burn, apparently.
kccougar
1/9/13 7:56am
Weird hire if you ask me
Medute
1/9/13 8:02am
I hope he keeps seeing this "something" there with him and other hires.
bald man
1/9/13 8:13am
Well, those higher coaching salaries have a great early return.
bald man
1/9/13 7:53am
The money from the MWC was worthless.
spugeddy24
1/9/13 7:44am
This is the exact reason why Utah must pay its own way going forward. Not $1 of
Rocketman
1/9/13 8:19am
Care to outline how much of the last expansion was tax funded?
Tokolosh
1/9/13 8:23am
Rocketman never relies on facts to form his opinions.
HSprauge
1/9/13 8:30pm
It is always clear when a nerve has been struck with Baltic Ave, HSprauge shows
Rocketman
1/9/13 8:59pm
Uncle Larry is more than happy to help with stadium expansion. Meawhile...
HSprauge
1/9/13 9:06pm
Oh, and Rocketman... do you have a response to the question posed by Tokolosh?
HSprauge
1/9/13 9:10pm
Help with it? How about all of it.
Rocketman
1/9/13 9:12pm
Still waiting for an answer to the Tokolosh question... hmmmm?
HSprauge
1/9/13 9:13pm
Only someone with access to the Olympic books could give provide the quantitativ
Rocketman
1/9/13 9:25pm
So if you have no evidence that a single dime of state money was used for...
HSprauge
1/9/13 9:33pm
Can you or any U administrators provide the evidence (accounting records) that
Rocketman
1/9/13 9:47pm
So your entire basis for concern that Utah stadium expansion might be funded...
HSprauge
1/9/13 9:59pm
I am bothered that Dr. Hill is already exploring ways for taxpayers to pay for
Rocketman
1/9/13 10:04pm
You have zero evidence that Dr. Hill is exploring state funding for stadium...
HSprauge
1/9/13 10:13pm
Let me say it a little more clearly. I read a newspaper article several months
Rocketman
1/9/13 10:19pm
Actually, the article you refer to was published July 12, 2012...
HSprauge
1/9/13 10:35pm
Check it... July 3, 2012.
HSprauge
1/9/13 10:39pm
Exploration committee = no state money? Interesting deduction....
Rocketman
1/9/13 10:44pm
Exploration committee = state money? Interesting deduction.
HSprauge
1/9/13 10:49pm
The SLOC issues weren't realted to sketchy accounting. It was bribes and gifts.
Tokolosh
1/10/13 12:00pm
If they are planning on using it for an Olympic bid
Medute
1/9/13 8:25am
I don't think any state money should be used on olympics.
bald man
1/9/13 8:28am
A couple of flaws in your story
ManicBlue
1/9/13 9:09am
Ok, allow me to correct then
Medute
1/9/13 9:42am
I'm not suggesting
ManicBlue
1/9/13 9:59am
Just thinking about football falling to those levels makes me sick
Medute
1/9/13 10:57am
I wonder when the law of diminishing returns starts to occur.
CougarPilot
1/9/13 11:26am
My opinion of Utah's recruiting strategy
Medute
1/9/13 11:48am
Utah has massive facility needs though for the PAC. $$ goes there first
lawboy
1/9/13 12:45pm
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