I never really started hating the Utes till Urban arrived...

May 9, 2023
10:23:54am

BYU Grounds Truly Addicted User

but the hatred for the rest of my life came this year with the revelation of how Utah University President Mike Young stabbed BYU in the back

In retirement, Craig Thompson reveals Utah’s call stopped BYU and Utah State’s project

Over a decade later, the curtain is peeled back how former Utah President Mike Young tipped off the MWC Commissioner of BYU’s realignment plans.

https://www.vanquishthefoe.com/2023/2/13/23598029/in-retirement-craig-thompson-reveals-utahs-call-stopped-byu-and-utah-states-project-mike-young

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What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of Utah for

StraightOuttaOrem

5/9/23 1:58am

Sorry that happened to you and your family. Uncalled for behavior, and stupid.

Jester

5/9/23 3:02am

Yewt fans hate the church and hate BYU. Yewt football hardly factors in. An atrocious fanbase.

shammy

5/9/23 6:44am

Well I am a Utah fan and do not hate the church.

Jester

5/9/23 8:10am

RE: Well I am a Utah fan and do not hate the church.

shammy

5/9/23 8:24am

Yeah I’ve seen this, it’s dumb, inappropriate.

Jester

5/9/23 8:26am

But would you as a Utah fan have the nerve to tell him that?

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 9:17am

Yes, do I think someone who does things like this with such disrespect

Jester

5/9/23 9:25am

Good on you then! If enough LDS Ute fans, not to mention Ute players and coaches

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 10:02am

Okay, that's a step too far? It's funny to U? I'll make you a deal then, Jester.

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 10:27am

Oh, and for double or nothing...

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 10:35am

I could get behind this! My high school car had a U sticker on it

Jester

5/9/23 11:03am

Doh! You called my bluff with your own. I'd never put a Pac-12'er on my vehicle.

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 11:17am

That is 🔥🔥🔥

Pretorian

5/9/23 1:56pm

And such is the bulk of Utah fans vs the church

Pretorian

5/9/23 1:55pm

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I have been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:57pm

RE: Well I am a Utah fan and do not hate the church.

OldFogey

5/9/23 10:00am

Half of yewts use BYU as a proxy for their LDS hate.The rest got rejected by BYU

Brandoblueblood

5/10/23 11:48am

The suggestion that it's one or two bad experiences is in conflict with empirical evidence

jdub

5/9/23 7:14am

Well this is an interesting take.

Jester

5/9/23 7:41am

Waiting for you to tell about the times you called out your fans.

John Doe

5/9/23 7:49am

The problem with your apology is the implied, "Yeah, but"

jdub

5/9/23 8:33am

I never said “sorry but” I just prefaced that

Jester

5/9/23 8:50am

Explicitly, no, but the implication was absolutely there. Even now, you're still claiming you have never seen it.

jdub

5/9/23 8:59am

There is a difference in seeing it happen and believing it does happen

Jester

5/9/23 9:04am

This is not a dig at all. I am seriously interested in what your bad experience was at LES.

Pollster

5/9/23 10:06am

Haha I appreciate your honesty. Is it safe to say?

Jester

5/9/23 10:16am

Probably wise not to push it in another direction.

Pollster

5/9/23 10:22am

Look, you're getting a lot of grief over this. Anyone who's honest with them-

OldFogey

5/9/23 10:09am

This is a great respectful response.

Jester

5/9/23 10:24am

And what bad experience did you experience at the hand of Cougar fans? Did some

BYU Grounds

5/9/23 8:50pm

Yes, to back up this point. I talked about the ONE experience that was the straw

StraightOuttaOrem

5/9/23 10:05am

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I have been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:52pm

Just take a minute and look at the volume of evidence presented here by such a

Pine

5/9/23 5:41pm

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I’ve been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:53pm

I’ve been to several events at Utah. Unfortunately the OP’s experience is more

andrewg3

5/9/23 11:37am

85% of Yewt fans didn’t even graduate from High School let alone attend the U

Magneto

5/9/23 7:58pm

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TheAirForceCoug

5/10/23 1:58pm

This is like my experience. Those who say they are classy or LDS yoot fans have

travelcoug

5/9/23 3:40am

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I’ve been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:50pm

After a win in Provo,

protonspring

5/9/23 5:21am

"But but but it goes both ways! Utes are no worse than Cougars! Both are equally offensive!" Yet BYU'S band has never

BlueBlood94

5/9/23 7:27am

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I have been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:56pm

I remember that one. Sat through those morons playing a Utah man am I through

BYU Grounds

5/9/23 8:55pm

Mine was at RES at the Beck to Harline game.

scmndm

5/9/23 5:21am

Walking to the car from that game, I saw an adult Ute fan get into a verbal altercation with a kid in BYU gear.

Mike Bolton

5/9/23 6:43am

My friend also told me about the fans blocking the restroom. He wasn't a BYU fan

benny1982

5/9/23 8:47am

To their credit, I believe that they've made a lot of strides to improve fan

benny1982

5/9/23 8:57am

I used to cheer for them actually. But then mock baptisms and Darren Lucy

zerome4sooners

5/9/23 5:27am

The last time I shared my Yewt experience I was called a liar.

BlueFreak

5/9/23 5:35am

By BYU fans on here? Or by the Utah fans who (inexplicably) come here?

m0resn0w

5/9/23 5:44am

Both..........

BlueFreak

5/9/23 9:19am

Care to share again?

CharlottesvilleCoug

5/10/23 7:37am

This cemented it.

Dr MoBYU

5/9/23 6:31am

RE: I used to cheer for them actually. But then mock baptisms and Darren Lucy

UteZ

5/9/23 12:05pm

Occurred on school grounds & tracking no ramifications. so yeah at least tacitly

zerome4sooners

5/9/23 12:39pm

Hmmm...okay, even if we concede the mock baptisms in the

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 1:00pm

RE: Hmmm...okay, even if we concede the mock baptisms in the

UteZ

5/9/23 3:59pm

RE: Hmmm...okay, even if we concede the mock baptisms in the

OldFogey

5/9/23 4:47pm

I think that everyone here can agree and acknowledge that

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 5:08pm

And in response to thenbaptisms wittingham had the audacity to say that they

ColonelMustard

5/10/23 12:37am

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people I have been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:49pm

Kyle Wittingham's lame response to the mock baptism video:

CharlottesvilleCoug

5/10/23 7:36am

Birth

LakeshowCougs

5/9/23 6:01am

I’ll have to go back and check, but there is probably something in my

stoils

5/9/23 11:44am

Mine was when I was in the band on the sideline and fans started spitting on us

Acorn

5/9/23 6:18am

Amen. I want them to get acceptance into the Western State Conference.

CaughtForaTouchdown

5/9/23 7:59am

Also at RES. Sitake’s first game at Utah.

ColdFusion1989

5/9/23 6:24am

Conception in the Pre-Existence

CLCougar

5/9/23 6:52am

Watching an old man get pelted with trash and food

kccougar

5/9/23 7:10am

Walking out of RES and having someone throw a bucket of popcorn

cougfanz

5/9/23 7:14am

I worked at the byu library.

conetah

5/9/23 7:15am

Only time I’ve been to RES

lukeskywalker

5/9/23 7:25am

What team colors were you wearing btw?

CLCougar

5/9/23 7:38am

Neutral but cheering for ucla

lukeskywalker

5/9/23 12:53pm

Wyoming, UNLV, and Notre Dame fans are worse.

mobomanjoe

5/9/23 7:26am

UNLV? No way. Been to BYU v UNLV basketball games - never saw a problem.

KCFan85

5/9/23 8:04am

Per capita, UNLV is the most vile, dirty fanbase in America.

mobomanjoe

5/9/23 8:17am

Back it up. What have you got?

KCFan85

5/9/23 8:23am

I had the lovely experience of attending the game where Araujo punched a guy.

mobomanjoe

5/9/23 9:16am

Shoot. See my post below.

KCFan85

5/9/23 10:12am

I've got one. Went to a Football game at UNLV with my dad and brother. The whole

VDUB_COUG

5/9/23 9:24am

Actually, you guys just reminded me of something ...

KCFan85

5/9/23 10:11am

I am from Vegas. The basketball game the entire section chanted F-U-BYU during the Nat Anthem!

Tweege

5/9/23 2:52pm

How many games have you gone to RES?

BYU'01

5/9/23 3:45pm

Several. Look, there are definitely some lame Utah fans.

mobomanjoe

5/9/23 8:36pm

UNLV fans were to drunk to care and their team stunk

BYU Grounds

5/9/23 9:48pm

Ive had a very positive experience with ND fans except for one lol

Sircumference

5/10/23 1:26pm

2001 BYU v Utah game at LES. Two incidents come to mind

finnish_blue

5/9/23 7:31am

In the mid 60’s i was a BYU freshman but a Ute fan having lived in SLC in

WallaX2

5/9/23 7:35am

I moved to SL County as a fan of neither school. Didn't care either way.

John Doe

5/9/23 7:39am

I was going to school at the U in the 90's.

Marc Spector

5/9/23 7:39am

I worked Grounds at LES when the UU team tried to pull down the N goalpost

cougarmeister

5/9/23 7:41am

Right? There was the one player that ran to defend that goalpost. I ran

CaughtForaTouchdown

5/9/23 7:56am

Chad Lewis is the man!

cougarmeister

5/9/23 11:30am

He was THE ONLY player who defended the goal post...instant fan of his

Sam's Dad

5/9/23 7:59pm

Awesome story about Chad Lewis. Doesn't surprise me.

CharlottesvilleCoug

5/10/23 7:49am

I remember that. So lame. Also remember when yewts stole big BYU flags ...

KCFan85

5/9/23 8:06am

This is one of my earlier memories of the rivalry hate brewing.

Preppy

5/9/23 6:41pm

Yep same here.

Sam's Dad

5/9/23 7:58pm

The goalpost incident sealed it for me.

bakedscrod

5/9/23 9:36pm

Mine was first visiting Rice Stadium with my dad when I was a pre-teen. They had not cleared snow from the bleachers

zonacougar

5/9/23 7:41am

Probably the mocking of religious ceremonies, such as the sacrament shots.

coug719

5/9/23 7:46am

RE: Probably the mocking of religious ceremonies, such as the sacrament shots.

zsmooth

5/9/23 8:01am

A fan doing it is one thing. The team doing it is quite another

SoBlueitHurts

5/9/23 11:46am

I'll be in RES wearing my Florida blue this fall. I'll return and report.

Adwight

5/9/23 7:56am

Better yet, wear a GoPro and youtube it.

JupiterJones

5/9/23 8:52am

I served a mission in Utah. You can probably guess what they would shout at us

Diablo and Doc

5/9/23 8:03am

When I was young, my mom, who cheered back in the day, can recall in either the

Hatchc5

5/9/23 8:07am

RE: When I was young, my mom, who cheered back in the day, can recall in either

m0resn0w

5/9/23 11:09am

1984. I was at the game at RES as a kid. I realized at a young age

Idacoug

5/9/23 8:13am

RE: What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of

steveca1

5/9/23 8:19am

when someone threw a cup of ice at my wife and baby after the doink game at RES

byujag

5/9/23 8:24am

Truth.

BlooCoog

5/9/23 8:25am

about six years ago, in a Target in Davis County

Sactown Cougar

5/9/23 8:27am

And this is why a lot of BYU fans living out of state will never

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 12:32pm

I grew up a BYU fan in CA, but liked Utah as well. Until I lived in SLC and

Captain Barnacles

5/9/23 1:24pm

It was the drubbing vs Heaps… 🤬

Pretorian

5/9/23 8:40am

When I was 6 years old my dad got free tickets to to the BYU vs Utah basketball

BLEEDBYUFOOTBALL

5/9/23 8:44am

Geez. Picking on a little kid. That's low.

KCFan85

5/9/23 9:06am

Mine was cemented during the back to back 34-31 years, when a "friend" of mine

Ungoy

5/9/23 8:56am

RE: What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of

lindoncoug

5/9/23 9:08am

Their reaction since they were admitted to the Pac 12...

Adrielle

5/9/23 9:12am

Yeah, but the huge Pac12 stickers that covered their back windows ...

KCFan85

5/9/23 10:06am

Probably the war in heaven when they were so hard to convince to our join side

Roy D Mercer

5/9/23 9:13am

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sam's Dad

5/9/23 8:03pm

Mine came later (2012) from my wife's extended family

Still Questing

5/9/23 9:23am

Always, but solidified at the Harline game. Got pushed from randoms 2x

Burton162

5/9/23 9:28am

Also, the game where the players were up in Falslev's face

Burton162

5/9/23 9:29am

Mid 60's (??) Gene Frantz brutally tackled out of bounds with face fractures.

Pickleball Bill

5/9/23 9:31am

It was when my extended family member attended a game at RES with her adopted

indocoug

5/9/23 9:33am

2nd place is my brother getting his car keyed. My brother went to yewtah for

indocoug

5/9/23 1:16pm

After I got accepted to BYU and decided to start wearing BYU gear in Ogden

ftwcoug

5/9/23 9:43am

When their leader asked us to follow him and give him the glory.

All-American

5/9/23 10:02am

When their band played their fight song right as the opening prayer started

hulmeman

5/9/23 10:46am

I had forgotten about this, I was there that day too

CameronG

5/9/23 4:04pm

Whoa whoa...they played during the prayer? I recall their band playing during

Preppy

5/9/23 6:34pm

Yeah honestly pretty appalling

hulmeman

5/9/23 11:26pm

Another one my son just reminded me about:

Sactown Cougar

5/9/23 10:06am

I never really started hating the Utes till Urban arrived...

BYU Grounds

5/9/23 10:23am

Late 90’s game at RES. Two adult men walk by a 10ish yr old kid wearing a BYU

Thrill

5/9/23 10:28am

Impossible. They don't sell profanity at RES.

Great38

5/9/23 10:44am

So, our older brother told us he had a plan that gave us all free agency..

Mabuhay Coug

5/9/23 10:53am

Read through this thread and ask yourself why anyone in their right mind would

Pine

5/9/23 11:10am

Mic drop!

Sam's Dad

5/9/23 8:07pm

Ryan Hancock injury

Spiff

5/9/23 11:11am

I don’t hate anyone. I do, however, wish the Utes would dig a hole, climb

canofpicante

5/9/23 11:23am

Utah student section at RES taunting an innocent young BYU mom w a baby. That

BlooCoog

5/9/23 11:27am

I grew up in CA as a BYU fan, but had no problem with utah and even wished them

Captain Barnacles

5/9/23 11:59am

Here's mine I posted about a while back. I almost got jumped but was ironically

Mr. Rumsfield

5/9/23 12:08pm

"Orchestra of rage....that he conducted masterfully." A narrative line worthy of Ralphie, like "tapestry of obsenity"

BlueBlood94

5/9/23 12:35pm

As a kid we had season tickets to the games, my mom never really cared, but came

Sircumference

5/9/23 12:37pm

1993 loss to Utah in Provo

Dan

5/9/23 12:43pm

I was there. It was shocking.

Idacoug

5/9/23 4:36pm

My freshman year. Ugh!

Burton162

5/10/23 12:06am

1996 game was so refreshing. Just running it down their throats.

gopman

5/10/23 5:27pm

2008 could've been like that if we would've stopped throwing. Unga was averaging

SoBlueitHurts

5/10/23 5:32pm

Yeah, it was crazy that Sark only had about 70 yards passing all game.

Dan

5/10/23 6:24pm

Usually a blowout has quite a few passing yds trying to catch up. Shutouts like

SoBlueitHurts

5/10/23 6:33pm

There wasn’t a recorded passing attempt in the first half

stoils

5/10/23 9:26pm

I grew up a Utah fan in SLC. Then Ty Freakin Detmer happened…

Frieda's Boss

5/9/23 12:58pm

Was verbally abused in the parking lot of Rice Eccles prior to and after the

RenoCoug

5/9/23 1:04pm

There was a grand council in heaven and I voted not to follow the dude in red… it’s been that way ever since.

GangstaLean

5/9/23 1:07pm

Belching and cussing during the opening prayer at Cougar Staduim.

SLIVER

5/9/23 1:14pm

Your dad is/was a hero.

m0resn0w

5/9/23 1:17pm

I’m tempted to paraphrase Brigham Young and say ‘that act alone, will guarantee

Pine

5/9/23 1:35pm

Good for your Dad. Your experience brought this quote from JS to mind:

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 1:56pm

BYU vs. Memphis Bowl game

calbearcoug

5/9/23 1:24pm

Mine was my first game at RES in 1996

BYU Tuba

5/9/23 1:37pm

I don’t hate Utah. They what they have always been a second rate undergrad

Nat Gas Man

5/9/23 1:56pm

When I saw the sheer arrogance of so many of their fans. Also, when I saw how

BleedCougarBlue2

5/9/23 1:59pm

How about the game at RES in 2012?

dfudge

5/9/23 2:43pm

When my brother, a Ute, attended my wife's b-ball game at the Marriott Center

Coug Esquire

5/9/23 2:56pm

I'll share my Dad's story

CameronG

5/9/23 3:10pm

Sometime after I moved to Salt Lake City, and had the rivalry smack dab in my face, whether I liked it or not

Bob Vance

5/9/23 3:17pm

Update: my dad had my mom read my original post and she said that he actually

StraightOuttaOrem

5/9/23 4:09pm

RE: What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of

Lavella

5/9/23 4:41pm

1993 The 34-31 loss to Utah at Cougar Stadium

Crowd Factor

5/9/23 5:10pm

I was at the fandemonium game

Joysey

5/9/23 5:16pm

But…but…but…BYU fans have such a persecution complex!!!!!!

Iman23

5/9/23 5:54pm

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people I’ve been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:46pm

1996 brother and I were decked out in cougar gear at res. Some utes had taken a

nybyblue

5/9/23 7:20pm

I believe it was 1991 at Cougars Stadium. Clown Ute fan wouldn't

Born2Fish

5/9/23 7:24pm

Taking my first job in SLC. The most miserable people on earth.

Big McLargeHuge

5/9/23 8:46pm

My first words were…Utah Sucks. I don’t really remember it though.

Robert Baratheon

5/9/23 9:08pm

This is an easy answer for me:

richvan

5/9/23 11:36pm

Wyoming fans also could get a little offensive. Multiple issues with Utah fans

calvindyer

5/9/23 11:59pm

This has been an inspiring testimony meeting, thank you to those that shared.

Rize Alloyal

5/10/23 6:18am

Now that this thread has run its course it should be enshrined in the halls of

Pine

5/10/23 7:46am

Nov. 17, 1979–parents would drop us off to sit on the old NE wooden bleachers

OU Cougar

5/10/23 7:49am

My daughter wasn't accepted to BYU out of HS. She went to

deljdc

5/10/23 7:55am

The Inlaws and I took the family to the Beck to Harline Game. My 13 yr old

BlueFreak

5/10/23 6:27pm

sorry, meant for the main thread.

BlueFreak

5/10/23 6:39pm

When Urban Meyer arrived at the U of U it all went downhill and became toxic. I

Hoopster

5/10/23 9:32am

I shared my dad's story but I'll share mine

CameronG

5/10/23 12:01pm

I was 8 years old. I remember it like it was yesterday!

TheAirForceCoug

5/10/23 1:59pm

RE: What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of

Ratchet

5/10/23 2:01pm

They matter until they are hardly a recruiting threat. For now, they still are.

SoBlueitHurts

5/10/23 2:02pm

You sound like a Ute or a Ute sympathizer

CameronG

5/10/23 2:08pm

My inclination is not to share

jetycns

5/10/23 3:56pm

I think this was foreordained in the pre-existence

baldcoug74

5/10/23 3:16pm

Derik Stevenson getting into a fight with a Ute fan in the stands that

gopman

5/10/23 5:15pm

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