Good for your Dad. Your experience brought this quote from JS to mind:

May 9, 2023
1:56:54pm

Buster Scruggs Contributor

"'SILENCE, ye fiends of the infernal pit! In the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke you, and command you to be still; I will not live another minute and hear such language. Cease such talk, or you or I die THIS INSTANT!’"

Unit 26: Day 1, Doctrine and Covenants 121:1–10; 122

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-and-church-history-study-guide-for-home-study-seminary-students-2014/section-06/unit-26-day-1-doctrine-and-covenants-121-1-10-122?lang=eng

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What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of Utah for

StraightOuttaOrem

5/9/23 1:58am

Sorry that happened to you and your family. Uncalled for behavior, and stupid.

Jester

5/9/23 3:02am

Yewt fans hate the church and hate BYU. Yewt football hardly factors in. An atrocious fanbase.

shammy

5/9/23 6:44am

Well I am a Utah fan and do not hate the church.

Jester

5/9/23 8:10am

RE: Well I am a Utah fan and do not hate the church.

shammy

5/9/23 8:24am

Yeah I’ve seen this, it’s dumb, inappropriate.

Jester

5/9/23 8:26am

But would you as a Utah fan have the nerve to tell him that?

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 9:17am

Yes, do I think someone who does things like this with such disrespect

Jester

5/9/23 9:25am

Good on you then! If enough LDS Ute fans, not to mention Ute players and coaches

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 10:02am

Okay, that's a step too far? It's funny to U? I'll make you a deal then, Jester.

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 10:27am

Oh, and for double or nothing...

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 10:35am

I could get behind this! My high school car had a U sticker on it

Jester

5/9/23 11:03am

Doh! You called my bluff with your own. I'd never put a Pac-12'er on my vehicle.

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 11:17am

That is 🔥🔥🔥

Pretorian

5/9/23 1:56pm

And such is the bulk of Utah fans vs the church

Pretorian

5/9/23 1:55pm

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I have been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:57pm

RE: Well I am a Utah fan and do not hate the church.

OldFogey

5/9/23 10:00am

Half of yewts use BYU as a proxy for their LDS hate.The rest got rejected by BYU

Brandoblueblood

5/10/23 11:48am

The suggestion that it's one or two bad experiences is in conflict with empirical evidence

jdub

5/9/23 7:14am

Well this is an interesting take.

Jester

5/9/23 7:41am

Waiting for you to tell about the times you called out your fans.

John Doe

5/9/23 7:49am

The problem with your apology is the implied, "Yeah, but"

jdub

5/9/23 8:33am

I never said “sorry but” I just prefaced that

Jester

5/9/23 8:50am

Explicitly, no, but the implication was absolutely there. Even now, you're still claiming you have never seen it.

jdub

5/9/23 8:59am

There is a difference in seeing it happen and believing it does happen

Jester

5/9/23 9:04am

This is not a dig at all. I am seriously interested in what your bad experience was at LES.

Pollster

5/9/23 10:06am

Haha I appreciate your honesty. Is it safe to say?

Jester

5/9/23 10:16am

Probably wise not to push it in another direction.

Pollster

5/9/23 10:22am

Look, you're getting a lot of grief over this. Anyone who's honest with them-

OldFogey

5/9/23 10:09am

This is a great respectful response.

Jester

5/9/23 10:24am

And what bad experience did you experience at the hand of Cougar fans? Did some

BYU Grounds

5/9/23 8:50pm

Yes, to back up this point. I talked about the ONE experience that was the straw

StraightOuttaOrem

5/9/23 10:05am

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I have been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:52pm

Just take a minute and look at the volume of evidence presented here by such a

Pine

5/9/23 5:41pm

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I’ve been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:53pm

I’ve been to several events at Utah. Unfortunately the OP’s experience is more

andrewg3

5/9/23 11:37am

85% of Yewt fans didn’t even graduate from High School let alone attend the U

Magneto

5/9/23 7:58pm

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TheAirForceCoug

5/10/23 1:58pm

This is like my experience. Those who say they are classy or LDS yoot fans have

travelcoug

5/9/23 3:40am

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I’ve been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:50pm

After a win in Provo,

protonspring

5/9/23 5:21am

"But but but it goes both ways! Utes are no worse than Cougars! Both are equally offensive!" Yet BYU'S band has never

BlueBlood94

5/9/23 7:27am

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people, I have been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:56pm

I remember that one. Sat through those morons playing a Utah man am I through

BYU Grounds

5/9/23 8:55pm

Mine was at RES at the Beck to Harline game.

scmndm

5/9/23 5:21am

Walking to the car from that game, I saw an adult Ute fan get into a verbal altercation with a kid in BYU gear.

Mike Bolton

5/9/23 6:43am

My friend also told me about the fans blocking the restroom. He wasn't a BYU fan

benny1982

5/9/23 8:47am

To their credit, I believe that they've made a lot of strides to improve fan

benny1982

5/9/23 8:57am

I used to cheer for them actually. But then mock baptisms and Darren Lucy

zerome4sooners

5/9/23 5:27am

The last time I shared my Yewt experience I was called a liar.

BlueFreak

5/9/23 5:35am

By BYU fans on here? Or by the Utah fans who (inexplicably) come here?

m0resn0w

5/9/23 5:44am

Both..........

BlueFreak

5/9/23 9:19am

Care to share again?

CharlottesvilleCoug

5/10/23 7:37am

This cemented it.

Dr MoBYU

5/9/23 6:31am

RE: I used to cheer for them actually. But then mock baptisms and Darren Lucy

UteZ

5/9/23 12:05pm

Occurred on school grounds & tracking no ramifications. so yeah at least tacitly

zerome4sooners

5/9/23 12:39pm

Hmmm...okay, even if we concede the mock baptisms in the

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 1:00pm

RE: Hmmm...okay, even if we concede the mock baptisms in the

UteZ

5/9/23 3:59pm

RE: Hmmm...okay, even if we concede the mock baptisms in the

OldFogey

5/9/23 4:47pm

I think that everyone here can agree and acknowledge that

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 5:08pm

And in response to thenbaptisms wittingham had the audacity to say that they

ColonelMustard

5/10/23 12:37am

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people I have been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:49pm

Kyle Wittingham's lame response to the mock baptism video:

CharlottesvilleCoug

5/10/23 7:36am

Birth

LakeshowCougs

5/9/23 6:01am

I’ll have to go back and check, but there is probably something in my

stoils

5/9/23 11:44am

Mine was when I was in the band on the sideline and fans started spitting on us

Acorn

5/9/23 6:18am

Amen. I want them to get acceptance into the Western State Conference.

CaughtForaTouchdown

5/9/23 7:59am

Also at RES. Sitake’s first game at Utah.

ColdFusion1989

5/9/23 6:24am

Conception in the Pre-Existence

CLCougar

5/9/23 6:52am

Watching an old man get pelted with trash and food

kccougar

5/9/23 7:10am

Walking out of RES and having someone throw a bucket of popcorn

cougfanz

5/9/23 7:14am

I worked at the byu library.

conetah

5/9/23 7:15am

Only time I’ve been to RES

lukeskywalker

5/9/23 7:25am

What team colors were you wearing btw?

CLCougar

5/9/23 7:38am

Neutral but cheering for ucla

lukeskywalker

5/9/23 12:53pm

Wyoming, UNLV, and Notre Dame fans are worse.

mobomanjoe

5/9/23 7:26am

UNLV? No way. Been to BYU v UNLV basketball games - never saw a problem.

KCFan85

5/9/23 8:04am

Per capita, UNLV is the most vile, dirty fanbase in America.

mobomanjoe

5/9/23 8:17am

Back it up. What have you got?

KCFan85

5/9/23 8:23am

I had the lovely experience of attending the game where Araujo punched a guy.

mobomanjoe

5/9/23 9:16am

Shoot. See my post below.

KCFan85

5/9/23 10:12am

I've got one. Went to a Football game at UNLV with my dad and brother. The whole

VDUB_COUG

5/9/23 9:24am

Actually, you guys just reminded me of something ...

KCFan85

5/9/23 10:11am

I am from Vegas. The basketball game the entire section chanted F-U-BYU during the Nat Anthem!

Tweege

5/9/23 2:52pm

How many games have you gone to RES?

BYU'01

5/9/23 3:45pm

Several. Look, there are definitely some lame Utah fans.

mobomanjoe

5/9/23 8:36pm

UNLV fans were to drunk to care and their team stunk

BYU Grounds

5/9/23 9:48pm

Ive had a very positive experience with ND fans except for one lol

Sircumference

5/10/23 1:26pm

2001 BYU v Utah game at LES. Two incidents come to mind

finnish_blue

5/9/23 7:31am

In the mid 60’s i was a BYU freshman but a Ute fan having lived in SLC in

WallaX2

5/9/23 7:35am

I moved to SL County as a fan of neither school. Didn't care either way.

John Doe

5/9/23 7:39am

I was going to school at the U in the 90's.

Marc Spector

5/9/23 7:39am

I worked Grounds at LES when the UU team tried to pull down the N goalpost

cougarmeister

5/9/23 7:41am

Right? There was the one player that ran to defend that goalpost. I ran

CaughtForaTouchdown

5/9/23 7:56am

Chad Lewis is the man!

cougarmeister

5/9/23 11:30am

He was THE ONLY player who defended the goal post...instant fan of his

Sam's Dad

5/9/23 7:59pm

Awesome story about Chad Lewis. Doesn't surprise me.

CharlottesvilleCoug

5/10/23 7:49am

I remember that. So lame. Also remember when yewts stole big BYU flags ...

KCFan85

5/9/23 8:06am

This is one of my earlier memories of the rivalry hate brewing.

Preppy

5/9/23 6:41pm

Yep same here.

Sam's Dad

5/9/23 7:58pm

The goalpost incident sealed it for me.

bakedscrod

5/9/23 9:36pm

Mine was first visiting Rice Stadium with my dad when I was a pre-teen. They had not cleared snow from the bleachers

zonacougar

5/9/23 7:41am

Probably the mocking of religious ceremonies, such as the sacrament shots.

coug719

5/9/23 7:46am

RE: Probably the mocking of religious ceremonies, such as the sacrament shots.

zsmooth

5/9/23 8:01am

A fan doing it is one thing. The team doing it is quite another

SoBlueitHurts

5/9/23 11:46am

I'll be in RES wearing my Florida blue this fall. I'll return and report.

Adwight

5/9/23 7:56am

Better yet, wear a GoPro and youtube it.

JupiterJones

5/9/23 8:52am

I served a mission in Utah. You can probably guess what they would shout at us

Diablo and Doc

5/9/23 8:03am

When I was young, my mom, who cheered back in the day, can recall in either the

Hatchc5

5/9/23 8:07am

RE: When I was young, my mom, who cheered back in the day, can recall in either

m0resn0w

5/9/23 11:09am

1984. I was at the game at RES as a kid. I realized at a young age

Idacoug

5/9/23 8:13am

RE: What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of

steveca1

5/9/23 8:19am

when someone threw a cup of ice at my wife and baby after the doink game at RES

byujag

5/9/23 8:24am

Truth.

BlooCoog

5/9/23 8:25am

about six years ago, in a Target in Davis County

Sactown Cougar

5/9/23 8:27am

And this is why a lot of BYU fans living out of state will never

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 12:32pm

I grew up a BYU fan in CA, but liked Utah as well. Until I lived in SLC and

Captain Barnacles

5/9/23 1:24pm

It was the drubbing vs Heaps… 🤬

Pretorian

5/9/23 8:40am

When I was 6 years old my dad got free tickets to to the BYU vs Utah basketball

BLEEDBYUFOOTBALL

5/9/23 8:44am

Geez. Picking on a little kid. That's low.

KCFan85

5/9/23 9:06am

Mine was cemented during the back to back 34-31 years, when a "friend" of mine

Ungoy

5/9/23 8:56am

RE: What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of

lindoncoug

5/9/23 9:08am

Their reaction since they were admitted to the Pac 12...

Adrielle

5/9/23 9:12am

Yeah, but the huge Pac12 stickers that covered their back windows ...

KCFan85

5/9/23 10:06am

Probably the war in heaven when they were so hard to convince to our join side

Roy D Mercer

5/9/23 9:13am

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Sam's Dad

5/9/23 8:03pm

Mine came later (2012) from my wife's extended family

Still Questing

5/9/23 9:23am

Always, but solidified at the Harline game. Got pushed from randoms 2x

Burton162

5/9/23 9:28am

Also, the game where the players were up in Falslev's face

Burton162

5/9/23 9:29am

Mid 60's (??) Gene Frantz brutally tackled out of bounds with face fractures.

Pickleball Bill

5/9/23 9:31am

It was when my extended family member attended a game at RES with her adopted

indocoug

5/9/23 9:33am

2nd place is my brother getting his car keyed. My brother went to yewtah for

indocoug

5/9/23 1:16pm

After I got accepted to BYU and decided to start wearing BYU gear in Ogden

ftwcoug

5/9/23 9:43am

When their leader asked us to follow him and give him the glory.

All-American

5/9/23 10:02am

When their band played their fight song right as the opening prayer started

hulmeman

5/9/23 10:46am

I had forgotten about this, I was there that day too

CameronG

5/9/23 4:04pm

Whoa whoa...they played during the prayer? I recall their band playing during

Preppy

5/9/23 6:34pm

Yeah honestly pretty appalling

hulmeman

5/9/23 11:26pm

Another one my son just reminded me about:

Sactown Cougar

5/9/23 10:06am

I never really started hating the Utes till Urban arrived...

BYU Grounds

5/9/23 10:23am

Late 90’s game at RES. Two adult men walk by a 10ish yr old kid wearing a BYU

Thrill

5/9/23 10:28am

Impossible. They don't sell profanity at RES.

Great38

5/9/23 10:44am

So, our older brother told us he had a plan that gave us all free agency..

Mabuhay Coug

5/9/23 10:53am

Read through this thread and ask yourself why anyone in their right mind would

Pine

5/9/23 11:10am

Mic drop!

Sam's Dad

5/9/23 8:07pm

Ryan Hancock injury

Spiff

5/9/23 11:11am

I don’t hate anyone. I do, however, wish the Utes would dig a hole, climb

canofpicante

5/9/23 11:23am

Utah student section at RES taunting an innocent young BYU mom w a baby. That

BlooCoog

5/9/23 11:27am

I grew up in CA as a BYU fan, but had no problem with utah and even wished them

Captain Barnacles

5/9/23 11:59am

Here's mine I posted about a while back. I almost got jumped but was ironically

Mr. Rumsfield

5/9/23 12:08pm

"Orchestra of rage....that he conducted masterfully." A narrative line worthy of Ralphie, like "tapestry of obsenity"

BlueBlood94

5/9/23 12:35pm

As a kid we had season tickets to the games, my mom never really cared, but came

Sircumference

5/9/23 12:37pm

1993 loss to Utah in Provo

Dan

5/9/23 12:43pm

I was there. It was shocking.

Idacoug

5/9/23 4:36pm

My freshman year. Ugh!

Burton162

5/10/23 12:06am

1996 game was so refreshing. Just running it down their throats.

gopman

5/10/23 5:27pm

2008 could've been like that if we would've stopped throwing. Unga was averaging

SoBlueitHurts

5/10/23 5:32pm

Yeah, it was crazy that Sark only had about 70 yards passing all game.

Dan

5/10/23 6:24pm

Usually a blowout has quite a few passing yds trying to catch up. Shutouts like

SoBlueitHurts

5/10/23 6:33pm

There wasn’t a recorded passing attempt in the first half

stoils

5/10/23 9:26pm

I grew up a Utah fan in SLC. Then Ty Freakin Detmer happened…

Frieda's Boss

5/9/23 12:58pm

Was verbally abused in the parking lot of Rice Eccles prior to and after the

RenoCoug

5/9/23 1:04pm

There was a grand council in heaven and I voted not to follow the dude in red… it’s been that way ever since.

GangstaLean

5/9/23 1:07pm

Belching and cussing during the opening prayer at Cougar Staduim.

SLIVER

5/9/23 1:14pm

Your dad is/was a hero.

m0resn0w

5/9/23 1:17pm

I’m tempted to paraphrase Brigham Young and say ‘that act alone, will guarantee

Pine

5/9/23 1:35pm

Good for your Dad. Your experience brought this quote from JS to mind:

Buster Scruggs

5/9/23 1:56pm

BYU vs. Memphis Bowl game

calbearcoug

5/9/23 1:24pm

Mine was my first game at RES in 1996

BYU Tuba

5/9/23 1:37pm

I don’t hate Utah. They what they have always been a second rate undergrad

Nat Gas Man

5/9/23 1:56pm

When I saw the sheer arrogance of so many of their fans. Also, when I saw how

BleedCougarBlue2

5/9/23 1:59pm

How about the game at RES in 2012?

dfudge

5/9/23 2:43pm

When my brother, a Ute, attended my wife's b-ball game at the Marriott Center

Coug Esquire

5/9/23 2:56pm

I'll share my Dad's story

CameronG

5/9/23 3:10pm

Sometime after I moved to Salt Lake City, and had the rivalry smack dab in my face, whether I liked it or not

Bob Vance

5/9/23 3:17pm

Update: my dad had my mom read my original post and she said that he actually

StraightOuttaOrem

5/9/23 4:09pm

RE: What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of

Lavella

5/9/23 4:41pm

1993 The 34-31 loss to Utah at Cougar Stadium

Crowd Factor

5/9/23 5:10pm

I was at the fandemonium game

Joysey

5/9/23 5:16pm

But…but…but…BYU fans have such a persecution complex!!!!!!

Iman23

5/9/23 5:54pm

Isolated incident. Ute fans are good people I’ve been told.

Iman23

5/9/23 6:46pm

1996 brother and I were decked out in cougar gear at res. Some utes had taken a

nybyblue

5/9/23 7:20pm

I believe it was 1991 at Cougars Stadium. Clown Ute fan wouldn't

Born2Fish

5/9/23 7:24pm

Taking my first job in SLC. The most miserable people on earth.

Big McLargeHuge

5/9/23 8:46pm

My first words were…Utah Sucks. I don’t really remember it though.

Robert Baratheon

5/9/23 9:08pm

This is an easy answer for me:

richvan

5/9/23 11:36pm

Wyoming fans also could get a little offensive. Multiple issues with Utah fans

calvindyer

5/9/23 11:59pm

This has been an inspiring testimony meeting, thank you to those that shared.

Rize Alloyal

5/10/23 6:18am

Now that this thread has run its course it should be enshrined in the halls of

Pine

5/10/23 7:46am

Nov. 17, 1979–parents would drop us off to sit on the old NE wooden bleachers

OU Cougar

5/10/23 7:49am

My daughter wasn't accepted to BYU out of HS. She went to

deljdc

5/10/23 7:55am

The Inlaws and I took the family to the Beck to Harline Game. My 13 yr old

BlueFreak

5/10/23 6:27pm

sorry, meant for the main thread.

BlueFreak

5/10/23 6:39pm

When Urban Meyer arrived at the U of U it all went downhill and became toxic. I

Hoopster

5/10/23 9:32am

I shared my dad's story but I'll share mine

CameronG

5/10/23 12:01pm

I was 8 years old. I remember it like it was yesterday!

TheAirForceCoug

5/10/23 1:59pm

RE: What was the moment that made you realize you’d hate the University of

Ratchet

5/10/23 2:01pm

They matter until they are hardly a recruiting threat. For now, they still are.

SoBlueitHurts

5/10/23 2:02pm

You sound like a Ute or a Ute sympathizer

CameronG

5/10/23 2:08pm

My inclination is not to share

jetycns

5/10/23 3:56pm

I think this was foreordained in the pre-existence

baldcoug74

5/10/23 3:16pm

Derik Stevenson getting into a fight with a Ute fan in the stands that

gopman

5/10/23 5:15pm

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