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Nov 21, 2017
10:47:58pm
kooogar Contributor
I appreciate the response, I was disappointed with the brawl and several
examples of the actions that went against BYU values and what Bronco preached. I did appreciate the fire that the players played with back then. The article you mentioned was written by a UCLA writer before we played them. It was an opinion that had no backing, he possibly wrote it due to being frustrated at how Bronco had been able to beat UCLA twice including the 59-0 game. There was a post on CB about the same time discussing this, and actual facts and data proved we were not even near the dirtiest team, Utah and USU were actually worse based on personal fouls and ejections.

My reference to "last spring" was 2016. Before they were even out of spring ball, the Va staff identified the QB position as one of weakness, acquired Benkert and he started in fall. This staff should have been able to identify needs, get someone and give them a year to compete for all the supposed holes we have this year. Benkert won the job last year but is really contributing this year. Surely with Kalani's incredible reputation as a recruiter and coach, he could have lured in somebody. You mentioned Jordon Leslie, but Nick Kurtz, Devon Blackmon and De'ondre Wesley were JC transfers Bronco brought in that contributed since the one you mentioned. This offense gets a pass due to all of the experienced WR graduating, 2 of them were JC transfers and Kalani could have found the same. Surely Kalani and this Poly heavy staff could have reeled in some poly JC talent. At least make an attempt. One of the big problems is they thought they had talent and said so. Either they did and didn't develop it or they didn't and failed to hit the JC ranks, a failure either way.

I agree that Ty's scheme and play calling is at least adequate. There is a lack of execution. It's no secret there is not intensity, discipline or accountability. You play in games like you practice. I personally think Kalani is more of the problem with the offense than Ty. The term "culture change" was thrown around by the anti Bronco guys, by you if I remember correctly. This Hakuna Matata atmosphere has killed everything, making the team appear to be lacking talent. No leadership, no plan, no direction. I would love to see what Ty would do under Bronco's management, discipline and accountability. Regardless, there is enough talent to beat the sub 100 teams we are losing to. I'm in my 50's and can't remember the last time we lost to a team ranked as as low as Umass, and it was at home on senior day. Probably the pre lavell days.

The Crowton recruiting influx is another great myth. I've looked over his classes, the guys that were highly rated were dismissed. Bronco developed low star players into the winners they were. The drop off after Crowton's players left consisted of average finishes of 39 from 2010 through 2015. Not the same as the 2000's but certainly enviable right now.

Your comparison between Crowton and Kalani is a good one. Both take remnants of a winning culture and have a good first year then crash, both about .500 winning percentages. Bronco and Lavell share .700 winning percentages.

You contradicted everything I said about Bronco's talent without doing the research. I have a VA depth chart in front of me, looked up every recruiting class and assigned the star rating to the chart, 2.8 average stars as starters. No 4* on the offense, only three 4*or better on the two deep on both sides. Fieler doesn't even start and is a 3*, Kiser is also a 3* , the only guys 4 star or better are Blanding and Brown. BYU has higher rated starters than VA.

As stated, Bronco's starting players average 2.84, the 2018 class coincidentally averages 2.84 right now (the great recruiter KS averages 2.53 on Rivals). So the notion that the talent drops way off after this season is false. There are several talking points that anti Bronco guys hang on to, one is that London's recruits are incredible and Bronco will fail when they are gone. The oline commit mentioned above has 32 P5 offers, from the top teams in all 5 conferences. Recruits like what bronco offers, and it will only improve as he continues to win. The numbers dispel this myth.
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