Side Q - is there an uptick in DO school applicants?

Same. I have a BIL that was determined to go to Utah's med school, and was advised to transfer from BYU to Weber State

Ragnar Danneskjold

5/16/23 9:33pm

The church needs to separate from that anti school. Stop being nice, stop

palangi

5/16/23 9:37pm

Years ago, Dr Heckman was tasked w planning a law school and med school

Sam's Dad

5/16/23 10:02pm

Worked closely w/ Dr Heckman. I graduated in 1983. Best histology professor on

Pine

5/16/23 10:45pm

You need to document all this and write a book. History needs to be kept plus

7FootRussian

5/17/23 9:08am

Could the Russel M. Nelson school of medicine be something we hear about

SurfCoug

5/17/23 9:37am

Not likely. The cost of a medical school is astronomical. Without the funding

BYUlv

5/17/23 1:41pm

Those are well known obstacles, but

SurfCoug

5/17/23 3:33pm

I just don't see it happening, but stranger things have happened.

BYUlv

5/17/23 4:02pm

Without a tertiary research-based hospital it would be garbage from the get-go.

cougfanz

5/17/23 5:58pm

I have heard similar stories from relatives

Cougrrrs Roll

5/17/23 11:11am

Yea probably 9 of the top 10 kids for my year at the U, were BYU kids

cougfanz

5/17/23 11:29am

Similar experience with Dental. BYU does a great job, Dr. Heckman is the best

rbr

5/17/23 7:26pm

Well that proves it!

kos

5/17/23 4:09am

Somebody very familiar with the program gave him advice that his chances were better graduating from WSU than BYU.

Ragnar Danneskjold

5/17/23 8:36am

Are you really denying the anti-LDS, anti-BYU bias of the UofU med school and training programs? This has been well

Yllage Vidiot

5/17/23 9:23am

Seems much more compelling than your argument.

ochobeeguy

5/17/23 11:20am

I don’t think saying you transferred to Weber and then got in really proved

kos

5/17/23 7:59pm

I don't think being a Ute fan and saying this doesn't happen is very compelling.

ochobeeguy

5/18/23 8:59am

My point was - that was the advice he was given by somebody with experience.

Ragnar Danneskjold

5/18/23 9:03am

That’s fair.

kos

5/19/23 6:22am

Ha, that’s a bold move. Glad it paid off but that’s silly.

cougfanz

5/17/23 11:06am

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vagabonder

5/16/23 9:34pm

I don't think it's changed much. I know a BYU grad that was accepted a couple of

Team Chaos

5/16/23 9:34pm

Male and pale. Don’t love Mormons.

BlooCoog

5/16/23 9:37pm

I think they just have an anti local bias for med and PA school

The Kavorka

5/16/23 9:37pm

I'll I know is the DESB accepted all the BYU rejects when I started my Masters.

WhyaskY?

5/16/23 9:44pm

What year did you start?

dYrtbYkerYder

5/16/23 9:47pm

2001

WhyaskY?

5/16/23 9:51pm

DESB?

AZcougLawyer

5/16/23 10:20pm

Dark electric shade of blue?

akbarishiwatsu

5/16/23 10:52pm

Sorry, does this mean UCLA?

eyes4byu

5/16/23 11:07pm

David Eccles School of Business. I think.

Madam Pattirini

5/17/23 10:02am

My neighbor’s kid (BYU grad, summa cum laude, etc) was accepted to a Top 5

Richardo

5/16/23 9:54pm

I believe this as I saw similar things when a student at the U SOM.

Sam's Dad

5/16/23 10:05pm

There is a real anti-Mormon bias at the U of U. My father was a faculty member

BlooCoog

5/16/23 11:27pm

I am assured by CB ALUFs that this is definitely 100% false.

zsmooth

5/17/23 7:28am

Applied to their med school twice, gen surg residency, and vascular surgery. 0/4

Boring

5/16/23 10:09pm

In other words racism

BYU Grounds

5/17/23 6:11am

the U Med School is obsessed with DEI

Littlerich

5/16/23 10:20pm

I did 2 fellowships there and was a faculty radiologist there for 4 years, but I

Littlerich

5/16/23 10:26pm

People in the state if Utah and on this board vastly overrate the U’s med school

cougfanz

5/17/23 11:37am

Isn’t that true for medical schools in general?

JuicyJam

5/17/23 9:18am

Unfortunately, yes, but I think the UofU is more concerned with it

Littlerich

5/17/23 9:53am

Yes, as are all medical schools. White males are rarely accepted anymore unless

BYUlv

5/17/23 12:41pm

I will add that my nephew was rejected by the U but accepted by Johns Hopkins.

BYUlv

5/17/23 12:47pm

Wow

Ironhide

5/17/23 1:13pm

It’s been this way for several decades.

Nakedbootleg

5/16/23 10:29pm

Here was the reality in 2002 (I can only assume it’s similar now)

Medute

5/16/23 10:33pm

So they choose lesser candidates then? Good strategy

BYU '80

5/16/23 10:46pm

Yes, they pass up amazing candidates because they are worried about the optics

Littlerich

5/16/23 10:52pm

I think they receive hundreds, if not thousands, of qualified applicants

Medute

5/16/23 11:05pm

“. . . and missionary experience”? Nasty.

AZcougLawyer

5/16/23 11:40pm

Certainly wasn’t meant to be nasty. These applications just look very similar

Medute

5/17/23 6:38am

Why is religion even a consideration? Isn’t that discrimination?

ThundaDan

5/17/23 7:50am

It’s all the rage.

AZcougLawyer

5/17/23 8:01am

It’s not and that’s not the point

Medute

5/17/23 8:23am

Yes, makes sense. When I suffer an aneurysm, I won't care much

CaughtForaTouchdown

5/17/23 1:44pm

You must have missed the part where I said they were qualified

Medute

5/17/23 2:58pm

So really - all these candidates pooled have exactly the same

CaughtForaTouchdown

5/17/23 5:01pm

Again, lots of twisting of words going on here

Medute

5/17/23 5:22pm

I guess I better find out all the background info about my doc to make sure his

thewaterboy

5/17/23 1:57pm

You're missing the point

CaughtForaTouchdown

5/17/23 5:03pm

And what if lots of people are capable of doing the job?

Medute

5/17/23 5:44pm

🤮🤮🤮 I would much rather be treated by a doctor who is excellent than one who

BYUlv

5/17/23 2:18pm

Just before my colonoscopy yesterday I found that my DR had graduated U of U

52Cougar

5/17/23 3:01pm

Glad it went down. Must have been exciting for you to have him to go in there.

Malathion

5/17/23 4:10pm

Good for you! Being able to trust your doctor is vital. The top characteristic I

BYUlv

5/17/23 4:23pm

Same. I picked a female internal medicine doc for my primary care physician

Medute

5/17/23 4:59pm

In before message board geniuses posts a screenshot

byuTX

5/17/23 10:39pm

There already is a lot of discrimination in the college acceptance process. Why

TailgateU

5/17/23 8:27am

I applied for a job at the dental school there and never heard back. Later

tony

5/17/23 10:05am

RE: Certainly wasn’t meant to be nasty. These applications just look very

Travelhacker

5/17/23 11:51am

Reminds me of my interview at Colorado

Medute

5/17/23 11:58am

Yes. But so does everyone else.

lilpenny

5/17/23 7:28am

Utah isn't the only place to do this. I'm (adjunct) faculty at another public

BrighamJung

5/16/23 10:52pm

There are schools that try to get as many as they can. MCW was one, until a new

Littlerich

5/16/23 10:55pm

It’s a problem only if admissions folk value the wrong things

BYU '80

5/16/23 11:03pm

What precisely is the problem, and why is it good to have?

AZcougLawyer

5/16/23 11:41pm

Problem= high number of BYU grads seeking competitive positions that have

BrighamJung

5/17/23 7:48am

Thanks. Longterm phenomenon means BYU is a heavyweight (?).

AZcougLawyer

5/17/23 8:00am

Even in the age of DEI BYU does remarkably well with the whitest applicant pool

BrighamJung

5/17/23 11:15pm

For some reason I find the existence of this data sheet hilarious

Resurgens

5/18/23 7:37am

More hilarity:

BrighamJung

5/18/23 7:54am

Oregon health science university did the same thing with their dental school a

Blue chunks